Game Session Instruction Thread (GSIT) Sunday, June 8th 1700hrs (EDT)

TheOverseer714

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With our Golden Age just begun, everyone is happy and busy doing Golden Age things.

Domesitic Reccomendations:
Raze the Foromach city of Hastings and build four cities to
  • Gain us Spices.
  • Deny Incense to the Orange Irritants.
  • Protect both those gains.

Foromach City Replacements
Spoiler :




City build order:
  1. Green Dot
  2. Green Circle (gives us Spices)
  3. One of Pink Circles (denies Incense to the Foromach)
  4. Blue Dot (protects Green Circle and Pink Circle)
The Light Blue Line is our probable border.

To get four settlers we could:
  • Falcon Crest (2): library in 16 -> settler in 3, rush for 48 of 567 gold. City will grow on to size 3 on the IBT.
  • Anwyn (5): barracks in 3 -> settler in 2, rush for 80 gold.
  • Fionna (5) harbor in 1; harbor completes, followed by settler, build for one turn and then rush.
  • City Red (5) settler in 2 (no change).
 
Continue plan from last Turnchat Thread

Gather together 3 stacks of units along the English Border as follows:
Orange Group : 4 Medieval Infantry, 2 Longbowmen, 1 Trebuchet
Green Group : 1 Knight and 6 Gaelic Swordsmen
Blue Group : 1 Knight and 6 Ancient Cavalry

Use the rest to defend the cities:
13 Pikeman + 1 Spearman + 3 Gaelic Swordsmen + 3 Ancient Cavalry for City defense (20 units for 18 cities)

Once War with the English is declared follow the paths laid out below



There are 3 Groups

One group (Green) will attack Warwick to the south, go on to take Birmingham (should have little resistance), continue on to Hastings, and then take Brighton

The Second group (Blue) is group to will take Reading and then continue on to join the Orange group

The Third group (orange) will go for Coventry and go onto raze York

Try to stay on mountain, hills, forests, and do not attack over a river (following the lines on the map should allow for that)

Reinforce with new units as able and necessary

I would request Medieval Infantry and Knights whenever possible to help reinforce the front.
 
Queue
1.) University (Current - 1 Turn)
2.) Pikeman
3.) Medieval Infantry
4.) Knight
5.) Medieval Infantry
6.) Knight
 
Here is the turnchat log, some pctures, and the save:

Next turnchat will be Friday, June 12, Time TBA(probably 4:30PM or 1630 EDT)

Spoiler :
17:02 *** TheOverseer714 joined #turnchat
17:02 TheOverseer714 T/C begins
17:05 TheOverseer714 Got the save up and running, looking around
17:06 *** Cyc joined #turnchat
17:06 Cyc hey TheOverseer
17:06 *** CBob joined #turnchat
17:07 TheOverseer714 Welcome Cyc
17:07 Cyc Hey CB
17:07 CBob Hi, guys. How's the water.
17:07 TheOverseer714 welcome CBob
17:07 *** mib_7qgs38 joined #turnchat
17:07 *** croxis joined #turnchat
17:07 croxis we good here?
17:07 Cyc yup
17:07 croxis mmk
17:07 TheOverseer714 I'm etting ready to hit enter

17:07 Cyc welcome
17:08 TheOverseer714 getting
17:08 Cyc Don't hit it too hard...
17:09 TheOverseer714 I just killed the Knight outside of Coventry, lost 3 hp, covering with a GS
17:09 Cyc k
17:10 Cyc is Falc here?
17:10 *** mib_7qgs38 left #turnchat
17:11 Cyc ya know, CB. I wanted to place city 2 tiles NW of the blue dot and put the FP there
17:12 TheOverseer714 Rush the settler in Falcon's Haven for 48g
17:13 CBob 2SE of York? I didn't know that. I was focused on just the Luxuries.
17:14 Cyc eactly
17:14 Cyc exactly
17:14 TheOverseer714 Change queue for Rhiannon per Falcon
17:14 Cyc ok
17:15 TheOverseer714 Hit Enter
Cyc Que a Settler in Fionna
17:16 TheOverseer714 Lots of Fomorach units intrude
17:16 Cyc after Harbor
17:16 Cyc The nerve of those people....
17:16 CBob Moving Blue Dot 2NW, then we would need to build a Temple in both Blue Dot and Green Dot to close the gap between the two cities.
17:17 TheOverseer714 Orange 4 survives a knight and promotes to elite
17:17 TheOverseer714 no other attacks
17:17 croxis TheOverseer714, do you have xchat?
17:17 croxis excuse me
17:17 croxis Do you have xfire?
17:17 CBob Green Circle, not Green Dot. Green Dot will be behind the lines, Green Circle and Blue Dot will establish the front lines.
17:18 Cyc xfire? what is that?
17:18 TheOverseer714 Rhiannon University=>Pikeman
17:18 croxis it is an ingame chat program, but one of its new features is being able to broadcast video so other people can watch it
17:18 Cyc good call CB.
17:18 croxis may be interesting to try for turnchats
17:17 croxis TheOverseer714, do you have xchat?
17:17 croxis excuse me
17:17 croxis Do you have xfire?
17:17 CBob Green Circle, not Green Dot. Green Dot will be behind the lines, Green Circle and Blue
17:18 Cyc good call CB.
17:18 croxis may be interesting to try for turnchats
17:19 Cyc sounds cool
17:19 Cyc but this is C3C. Does this comply?
17:20 croxis Video isn't listed, I'd have to try it
17:21 TheOverseer714 Breyr Cathedral=>Settler
17:21 Cyc k
17:22 TheOverseer714 Fiona Harbor=>Settler
17:22 Cyc k
17:22 TheOverseer714 Falcon's Haven Settler=>Library
17:23 Cyc good
17:25 Cyc Turns remaining on Palace, TheOverseer?
17:25 Cyc Whoops. That's Theoverseer714
17:26 TheOverseer714 13
17:26 Cyc ty
17:27 TheOverseer714 Move 4 slaves to road to Richmond, which is about to riot
17:28 Cyc k
17:28 TheOverseer714 Richmond citizen made into a scientist
17:29 Cyc k
17:30 TheOverseer714 Kill Archer near Warwick with GS who is redlined
17:31 Cyc We need Leaders here. As many Elites hitting wounded s possible.
17:31 Cyc Warick in danger?
17:32 TheOverseer714 Pull Green group back to guard and wait for reinforcements
17:32 Cyc k
17:33 TheOverseer714 Yes, I didn't like a regular GS against an Archer and Warrior
17:33 *** croxis left #turnchat (Leaving)
17:33 CBob I've downloaded xFire; trying to figure it out.
17:34 Cyc Didn't get promoted, bummer.
17:34 Cyc cool, CB
17:34 TheOverseer714 Move 4 healthy group blues toward Coventry
17:35 Cyc k
17:35 Cyc Did we take Birmingham yet?
17:36 CBob xfire recognizes CivIII and Civ4 but not Mystery Case Files. Sees all the MS default installed games (FreeCell, Minesweeper, etc.)
17:36 Cyc Hmmmm
17:37 TheOverseer714 Lower tech rate to 30%, Chemistry in 1 at 130gpt
17:37 Cyc nice
17:38 TheOverseer714 End of Turn 1, 660AD, 531 g, +130gpt
17:39 TheOverseer714 Hit Enter
17:39 TheOverseer714 Engish want to talk
17:40 Cyc Just slap her....
17:40 TheOverseer714 Fomorach, I mean
17:41 TheOverseer714 I choose no, not now, but it is good news, we can negotiate if it gets ugly
17:42 Cyc Well English in Fomorach is pronounced Fomorach, so we're good.
17:42 Cyc she offeref us lux's?
17:43 TheOverseer714 Fomorach Warrior pillages at Warwick, 2 Maces show up there
17:44 Cyc Aargh!
17:45 TheOverseer714 Chemistry researched, next is Music Theory in 4 turns at +2gpt
17:46 TheOverseer714 City Red Settler=>Trebuchet
17:47 Cyc good
17:47 TheOverseer714 SoZ gives us an AC
17:48 CBob It looks like xfire will let you video the game you are playing and upload that so others can watch. I don't see anything that supports realtime video streaming of a game.
17:49 Cyc Thanks CB. That's a good feature.
17:50 Cyc City Red may want to produce another Settler TheOverser714
17:50 Cyc Maybe next T/C I do, I can tape and post it.
17:51 TheOverseer714 It is pretty slow growing
17:51 CBob According to their faqs, the max file size is 200 MB or about 10 minutes total, with a max data storage of 10 GB.
17:52 Cyc ii's size 3 now? no?
17:53 TheOverseer714 Kill the offending warrior with eGS, losing 3hp, no leader.
17:53 Cyc Good for battle sequences, CB
17:53 Cyc :(
17:54 TheOverseer714 I got 4 workers rading a forest and then I plan a chop
17:54 Cyc k
17:54 Cyc By Rhiannon, huh?
17:55 TheOverseer714 I'd like the new settler to arrive on growth to 5
17:55 Cyc Ah, City Red
17:57 TheOverseer714 Palace at Molly in 12
17:57 Cyc k
17:58 *** Fur joined #turnchat
17:58 Cyc Welcome Furiey
17:58 Fur Hi
17:58 TheOverseer714 Welcome Furiey
18:00 Cyc We are doing well with land allocation. Liz wants peace, but can't affod it. But has left us a back door if it gets rough.
18:00 CBob I take it back. I take it back.
18:00 Cyc more than 10 minutes?
18:01 CBob xfire has Xfire Live Video (Broadcast ALPHA) that does allow live game streaming, with about a 3 to 5 second delay.
18:01 Cyc very cool
18:01 TheOverseer714 End of Turn 2, 670AD, 661 g, -1gpt
18:02 Cyc From +130gpt to -1gpt?
18:02 CBob Science went back up.
18:02 Cyc Moved slider back up
18:02 TheOverseer714 Overrun
18:02 Cyc yup. ok
18:02 Fur very strange, the turnchat room I get to on mIRC is different from that one here. Only chieftess is in the other room
18:03 TheOverseer714 forgot to mention slider is now at 60%
18:03 Cyc The did a change at Mibbit.
18:03 Cyc Yesterday I got a full screen chatroom
18:03 Cyc ty
18:04 CBob At 60%, Music Theory is a 4 turn tech with very little beaker overrun.
18:04 Cyc sounds good to me.
18:04 TheOverseer714 I have some trade options, want me to trade Chemistry or hold onto it?
18:05 Cyc I believe the time on the left margin is new too
18:05 *** Furiey joined #turnchat
18:06 Cyc wb, Fur
18:06 Furiey found it! Channel is on gamesurge not IRC
18:06 Cyc what can you get?
18:06 TheOverseer714 the Cairde have 133 gold and Navigation
18:07 TheOverseer714 Persia Greece and Ottos have ~30 apiece
18:08 Cyc I would hold it and see if they get more gold.
18:08 Cyc CB?
18:09 CBob yes
18:09 Cyc Shall we hold or trade Chemistry?
18:09 TheOverseer714 yeah, Navigation is pretty useless
18:10 Cyc Furiey?
18:10 CBob Hmm, Bowsling is not here.
18:10 CBob Nav only gets us a Wonder to build, while we have to have Magnetism.
18:10 CBob Do we have any immediate overseas plans that Navigation would help?
18:11 TheOverseer714 not really
18:11 Fur it would help if I looked at the save
18:11 Cyc not that 'm aware of.
18:11 TheOverseer714 and we can build Caravels
18:11 CBob With Nav? I thought they came with Mag.
18:12 Cyc We're still looking at local land grab.
18:12 TheOverseer714 I'll wait and see
18:12 CBob I don't think we should trade Chemistry just yet.
18:12 TheOverseer714 Galleons wth Magnetism
18:13 Cyc There's 3 against...
18:13 Cyc Furiey, you have a Fur ghost here.
18:13 Fur Fur is me downstairs on mibbit
18:13 CBob Chem for Magnetism or Theory of Gravity, go for it. But just Navigation, I think we can wait.
18:13 Cyc I guess you can vote twice. :)
18:14 Fur Furiey is me upstairs on mIRC
18:13 CBob Chem for Magnetism or Theory of Gravity, go for it. But just Navigation, I think we can wait.
18:13 Cyc I guess you can vote twice. :)
18:14 Fur Furiey is me upstairs on mIRC
18:14 Cyc figured
18:14 CBob I've gotta go; time for church. See you guys later.
18:14 Cyc just playin'
18:14 *** CBob quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
18:14 Cyc cya\
18:14 TheOverseer714 See ya
18:15 Cyc damn he leaves in a hurry
18:15 Fur sort of I usually try and hold on to chemistry until really worthwhile trading
18:15 Cyc damn he leaves in a hurry
18:15 Fur sort of I usually try and hold on to chemistry until really worthwhile trading
18:15 Cyc good call
18:15 Fur yep - too quick to say goodbye
18:15 Cyc gotta keep those other civs out of the lab.
18:16 TheOverseer714 Press enter, trade later
18:16 Cyc so that's all 4 against the trade
18:17 TheOverseer714 Warwick draws 2 Maces and an Archer
18:19 TheOverseer714 Fomorach Galley snooping around
18:19 TheOverseer714 Rhiannon Pike=>Mace
18:20 TheOverseer714 Aerona Knight=>Knight
18:21 TheOverseer714 Anwyn Barracks=>Settler
18:21 TheOverseer714 Greeks are building JS Bachs!
18:23 Fur how far are we away from it?
18:24 TheOverseer714 11 turns
18:25 TheOverseer714 Lousy RnG, lose a healty eGS on a darn Archer
18:25 Cyc bummer
18:26 TheOverseer714 Then lose a healthy vKnight on a Mace
18:26 Cyc The Fomorach are tough!
18:27 TheOverseer714 3 in a row, Healthy vGS retreats on another Mace
18:28 Cyc The days of the GS may have left us before our GA is over...
18:28 TheOverseer714 Orange 6 breaks the streak, kills one Mace
18:29 Cyc Orange does Orange.
18:29 TheOverseer714 Orange 7 Kills the Archer
18:31 Cyc BTW, I'm in Richmond, Virginia today. Nice and warm.
18:31 TheOverseer714 Green 4 redlines, but kills the last Mace
18:32 Cyc nice
18:33 Fur could do with some nice and warm here, abolutely chucked it down today, I got drenched.
18:34 Cyc ;)
18:34 Cyc what year are you in?
18:34 TheOverseer714 nice here too
18:34 TheOverseer714 680
18:34 Cyc ty
18:34 TheOverseer714 In fact...
18:35 TheOverseer714 End of Turn 3, 680AD, 660 g, +5gpt
18:35 Cyc Fact and Fiction work as a team
18:36 TheOverseer714 Trade options....Greece has 141 gold, MT, and Nav
18:37 TheOverseer714 This is good, I say we take it
18:38 TheOverseer714 Nav, MT, their World Map, 140 gold and 45 gpt
18:38 Cyc Can we sell it elsewhere?
18:39 TheOverseer714 Ottomans, Persia, China
18:39 Cyc That does sound ood
18:39 Cyc Fur?
18:40 Fur sounds good
18:40 TheOverseer714 My dinner is about done, so I'm doing the deal
18:41 Cyc :) Belly decision.
18:43 Cyc Are you going to do 10 turns tonight?
18:44 TheOverseer714 We'll see
18:44 TheOverseer714 5 seems about al I can do
18:45 TheOverseer714 off to dinner...be back in awhile
18:45 Cyc k
18:45 Fur takes a surprisingly long time, enjoy your dinner
18:49 Cyc how you been, Furiey?
18:49 Fur working too hard
18:50 Fur need to catch up with myself again
18:50 Fur you've been busy too?
18:51 Cyc Constanatly
18:51 Cyc Running me ragged
18:51 Cyc But got 2 dys off in Virginia
18:52 Fur nice
18:52 Fur I've got 2 days off next week - doing a course on Equine Touch
18:53 Fur time spent with horses is just what I need
18:54 Cyc How's Bailey?
18:55 Fur Absolutely full of mischief
18:56 Cyc Summer is almost here...
18:56 Fur He needs more time than I have been giving him recently, I'm hoping for a good summer as it's no fun getting soaked all the time
18:56 Fur oh for an indoor school
19:03 Cyc And your GOTM ventures? Hmmm. SGOTM?
19:13 TheOverseer714 Back
19:14 Cyc K
19:14 Cyc Have you heard Brushfire Fairytales?
19:15 Cyc By Jack Johnson?
19:15 Cyc good stuff.
19:16 Cyc Furiey?
19:16 TheOverseer714 Greek deal done
19:16 Cyc and the others?
19:16 Cyc id Geeks offer or we?
19:18 TheOverseer714 Sell Gunpowder to the Ottomans for their WM and 40g
19:18 Cyc Heck no!
19:19 TheOverseer714 oops did it....sorry
19:20 TheOverseer714 they ould have got it eventually
19:20 Cyc If you keep trading this stuff, you need to trade it to everyone, otherwise they will
19:20 Cyc except the Fomorach.
19:21 TheOverseer714 They were the only one without it
19:21 Cyc k
19:21 Cyc Can you get us any Saltpeter?
19:22 Cyc We have to ignite those iron barrels with balls in them.
19:22 TheOverseer714 We'll see
19:23 Fur ooh, going again
19:23 TheOverseer714 Persia will give us Gems, Furs, 38 gold and their WM for Chemistry
19:23 Cyc What was for dinner, The Overseer714?
19:24 TheOverseer714 Grilled Chicken, Baked potato, green beans
19:24 Cyc We'll be able to grow like crazy. But do we need that?
19:25 Cyc MMMMMM
19:25 TheOverseer714 I like the deal, and if we don't get those luxes, someone else will
19:28 Fur still the saltpetre is the issue
19:28 Cyc Just make sure Xerses sticks to his deal. He might short us on the luxs after he gets the Tech.
19:28 *** Furiey quit (Ping timeout)
19:29 Cyc Casper leaves
19:29 Fur should be back
19:30 Fur should auto reconnect
19:30 TheOverseer714 think 1 gpt would do it?
19:30 Cyc yeah, we need the Saltpetre
19:30 Cyc ???
19:30 TheOverseer714 to keep X-Man honest
19:31 Cyc Gems, Furs, WM, and 1gpt for Chem?
19:31 TheOverseer714 no, us giving them 1 gpt
19:32 Cyc for Gems, Furs, and WM?
19:32 TheOverseer714 ywp
19:32 Cyc plus Chem?
19:32 *** Furiey joined #turnchat
19:32 TheOverseer714 yyep
19:32 Cyc hmmm
19:33 TheOverseer714 my typing sucks
19:33 Cyc just as good as mine
19:33 Cyc He can still bail easily
19:33 Cyc I like the original deal better
19:34 TheOverseer714 I can do it with or without the gpt
19:34 Cyc it's better if e don't give gpt
19:35 Cyc get their 38 gold.
19:35 TheOverseer714 Deal
19:35 Cyc k
19:36 TheOverseer714 China has 20 gold, Cairde have none
19:36 Cyc No saltpetre?
19:36 TheOverseer714 As our brother, maybe we give it to them
19:37 Cyc Yer the President! :)
19:38 Fur we need to look after our little brother
19:38 TheOverseer714 Greece has 2 Salts, but only 1 hooked up
19:40 TheOverseer714 The only Salt on our continent is deep in Byzantine territory
19:41 Cyc The Ottomans have no extra?
19:41 TheOverseer714 Cairde have 1, not hooked up
19:42 TheOverseer714 Ottoman have 2 hooked, but can't trade it to us
19:42 Cyc We need to check the Trade screen every turn to see if Greece or the Cairde hook up their extra Saltpetre
19:43 Cyc Cool, we need to find their Hrbor.
19:44 TheOverseer714 They may not have one
19:45 Cyc maybe
19:46 TheOverseer714 China will give 20 gold and WM for Chemistry
19:46 Cyc Can we trade Territory Maps with the Ottomans?
19:46 TheOverseer714 Yes
19:47 Cyc do it
19:47 Cyc find a Harbor?
19:48 TheOverseer714 Germany will give us Silks and 21gpt for Chemistry
19:48 Cyc Nice
19:49 TheOverseer714 no harbor
19:49 Cyc Bummer. We're going to have to max out Science
19:50 TheOverseer714 I take the deal with Germany
19:52 TheOverseer714 We can eliminate lux spending and get Metallurgy in 4 at -58 gpt
19:53 TheOverseer714 Do the China deal
19:54 Cyc Get everything you can
19:55 TheOverseer714 Got it all
19:55 Fur once you sell it, maximise what you can get. They'll only trade it otherwise.
19:55 Cyc We are supplying the world with knowledge.
19:55 Cyc good
19:55 TheOverseer714 Change Molly's Palace to JS Bachs
19:56 Cyc ty
19:56 TheOverseer714 11 turns
19:57 Cyc be sure and get a snapshot of the Wonder, please.
19:57 TheOverseer714 Ok, now we need to think about Newtons
19:58 TheOverseer714 Where to do a prebuild?
19:59 TheOverseer714 Maeve looks ideal in 2 turns
20:02 TheOverseer714 End of Turn 3, 680AD, 898 g, -58gpt, Metallurgy in 4
20:02 TheOverseer714 Press enter
20:03 TheOverseer714 Furiey, Orange 3 dies to an Archer after valiantly killing a Knight
20:04 TheOverseer714 Fomorach Galley lands an Archer near Falcon's Nest
20:07 Cyc Don't we have Knights coming up past Falcon's Haven?
20:09 Cyc Maeve or Moira both look good
20:10 TheOverseer714 Yes, Knights nearby
20:12 TheOverseer714 Tara Knight=>Knight hmm we might want a University and Bank there soon
20:13 TheOverseer714 Moira Knight=>Knight
20:16 TheOverseer714 Breyr Settler=>Mace
20:17 TheOverseer714 Fiona Settler=>University
20:21 Cyc k
20:23 TheOverseer714 Tavia Trebuchet=>Trebuchet
20:24 TheOverseer714 AC kills Archer, -1 hp
20:26 TheOverseer714 Moe 4 Blues and 2 Oranges toward Hastings
20:27 TheOverseer714 Move
20:27 TheOverseer714 typo
20:27 Cyc The tension mounts
20:29 TheOverseer714 Lower tech slider to 90%
20:30 TheOverseer714 A little MM at Molly gets JS Bachs in 9
20:30 Cyc k
20:30 Cyc hat year?
20:31 Cyc what year?
20:33 TheOverseer714 End of Turn 4, 690AD, 842 g, -37gpt, Metallurgy in 3
20:34 Cyc Press it!
20:36 TheOverseer714 Press enter
20:40 TheOverseer714 Only Fomorach movemennt is the Galley
20:40 Cyc k
20:41 TheOverseer714 Ottomans want to trade WMs
20:41 TheOverseer714 Maeve University=>Palace(Newtons prebuild)
20:41 Cyc not till they build a Harbor
20:41 TheOverseer714 Rhiannon Mace=>Knight
20:47 TheOverseer714 All there is to do is move units toward the front
20:47 TheOverseer714 I'm too slow at this
20:49 Cyc We don't need to starve her.
20:51 Cyc Can you post a screenshot of the front?
20:52 TheOverseer714 Saving and Screenshot
20:52 Cyc We are all slow when we first strt.
20:52 Cyc start


Some Pictures:
Spoiler :

Greek deal for Chemistry:


Persian deal for Chemistry:


Our dear brother is so Generous:


The Chinese are poor:


Hastings or bust!




The save:
 
Another great Game Session, Mr. President.

If you need me to do a mid-week T/C, let me know.
 
I'd be happy to let you do one, as I'm by necessity a weekend warrior. Pick a time and day that works for you and I'll put up an instruction thread.
 
Civfanatics is really starting to suck with all these computer geeks breaking into my computer. It will have to be offline. Thursday 2100 CDT. I can't even make a post without one of these slobs making my screen freeze up.
 
Do you use a firewall along with a virus scanner? Where do you think the attacks are coming from, cause I've had some suspicious stuff come from this site at times. I wonder sometimes.
 
Post in site feedback about it - there have been a few recently that Thunderfall has raised with Telefragged, if you can get screenies of the ads at the top and bottom of the page that will really help to get the offending ads removed. I had a couple of pop-ups that were blocked, but those had already been raised on site feedback. If no one complains they won't get removed.

My biggest attack recently was when I was trying to acess McAffee's site and went to .co.uk not .com. Big mistake, .co.uk is NOT run by McAffee, but a good job my antivirus and firewall was up to date.
 
Welcome back, Daveshack. I'm finding being president is a huge commitment, I am amazed at how much work a turnchat is. Maybe next term, someone else can run, I think a month at a time is as much as I can handle.
 
Furiey may be right about suspicious ads, as I have had continuous downoading of cookies and what not recently. But I'm serious about these computer geeks. They have no life, so they have to invade other people's. What I have been experiencing is not new. This has been developing for a long time, only happens at Civfanatics, and probably isn't ads. This looks again like spoiled brats.

I use a fiewall and virus protection, along with other methods of trying to be safe. The perps are no longer interested in being covert about this. This are just blatant attacks. To bad, this used to be such a nice place. And Furiey, I don't feel like going to site feedback and complaining, just to have some computer geek tell me it's my fault or maybe I'm just imagining it.

I'll just get tired of this crap and go elsewhere.

WB DS. I thought Sedona was a retirement resort.
 
May I suggest
  • Spybot Search and Destroy
  • Spywareblaster
  • Ad-Aware
All three are freeware and highly regarded. I use all three and run them one after the other.
 
I use Firefox with Ad Block Plus and No-Script and I haven't had any problems with the CFC website
 
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