[GS] Gathering Storm Leader Ability Elimination Thread

[Ceydezed]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [23]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [11]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [16]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18] = 17+1. It takes a bit of time and efforts (and luck, too) to set up, but once it is rolling then it steamrolls like crazy. And it is fun, and rewarding. A unique way to play that forces you to think of other strategies, and play differently.
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [3]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [8]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [27]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [ 11]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [21]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [12] = 15-3 More food for inca is not very useful. The tunnel is cute but will not make that much of a difference (except for early golden age maybe).
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [11]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [5]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [28]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [23]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [7]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[Xandinho]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [23]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [11]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [16]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [3]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [8]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [28] = 27+1. It is the best LUA for cultural victory. A much broader version of the old British Museums.
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [ 11]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [21]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [9] = 12-3. I almost never use domestic trade routes. Building Qhapaq Ñan is fun, but it doesn't make much difference in the game.
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [11]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [5]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [28]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [23]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [7]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[Disgustipated]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [23]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [11]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17] = 16 + 1 People seem to be forgetting about the move capital project. Who's main sole purpose is to move to a different continent so you can run colonial taxes and build Casa De Contracion... Who doesn't want a significant boost to production and money in their core cities?
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [3]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [8]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [28]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8] = 11 - 3 I admit starting the game in the ocean is way cool. Have to get that out there and give Firaxis props for that. Unique and appropriate for the Civ. But in terms of usefulness, it's as said, best useful in the opening stage of the game. So high marks for thematic, low marks for usefulness. Also the AI struggles with this ability which is another reason to mark it down.
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [21]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [9]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [11]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [5]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [28]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [23]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [7]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[Kimiimaro]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [23]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [11]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [3]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [8]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [28]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [21]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [9+1=10] - I do enjoy playing tall myself, while having a good infrastructure and road network, so I get to use internal trade routes quite often. In my Inca game, I've been able to build incredibly populous cities through many abilities, but I believe this did the largest part of the growth.
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [11]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [5]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [28]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [23]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [7-3=4] - This is a similar case of Scotland, really. It's a CB that comes mid game, gives a laughable reward (compared to Cyrus, Curtin and and and depends on how AI plays (and in my games, CS wars are a rare occurance after the early phases of the game. The second half doesn't really seem game changing to me.
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[DWilson]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24] 23+1 - I'm generally not very fond of Macedon (it's too concentrated in one game period, making it hard to fully utilize everything and also keep the full game interesting), but this is just a solid, enjoyable bonus. Good on you, Alex. Even if we all hate your face.
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [11]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [3]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [8]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [28]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8] I am curious if this works correctly for the AI given that parts come as AI difficulty level bonuses anyhow.
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [21]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [8] 11-3 - This is one of those unfortunate abilities that you simply don't really feel the impact of.
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [5]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [28]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [23]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [4]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[Weraptor]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [11]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [3]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [8]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [28]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [5]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [21]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [8]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [2] (5-3) +CS bonus is finicky and better Inquisitors aren't that desirable
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [28]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [23]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [5] (4+1) C'mon people, free envoys are much better than some of what remains here...
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[Krajzen]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [11]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [3+1=4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [8-3=5]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [28]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [21]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [8]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [2]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [28]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [23]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [5]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

Barbarossa: I honestly think it's about some psychological glitch that makes people downvote this LA so fazy because of that terrible city state part - while ignoring second part, one more free military policy for all governments.
Come on, I know it's not wildcard but it's still quite useful, not too much but not so badly to deserved being ranked that low.

Gilgamesh - now here comes actual garbage. Pillage sharing which requires you to stick your units very close to AI attacking the same enemy civ as you in the same time and part of the world (like really how much more impractical can it get)? No warmonger penalties for conquering enemies of your allies - this one actually sounds good until you sit down and think how rarely and randomly it would be useful in practice. Third bonus is slightly more alliance points.
Gilgamesh LA is not among the worst ones but it is relatively not very practical, highly random ability depending on very convenient timing of ally-enemy wars. Compare this with universally working and customizable Barbarossa.

 

[Jewelrunna]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [11+1 = 12]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [5-3 = 2]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [28]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [21]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [8]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [2]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [28]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [23]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [5]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

Gilgamesh: I just don't like this ability, at all really. It's so niche and specific while not really giving you anything really impactful. It's kind of neat that you can get more experience points from mutually fighting barbarians or other Civs, but that's such a niche situation that doesn't really impact the game at all. The extra alliance points from fighting mutual enemies is an interesting incentive to go to war with your allies, and is a nice buff towards the Diplomatic Victory, albeit a pretty small one. Gilgabro is lucky that the rest of his uniques are just so gosh darn good that this ability doesn't have to be good.

Amanitore: C'mon guys, I get that this ability is kinda bland, but that's a lot of production towards districts. Even more if you're using the Nubian Pyramid correctly (which I also still maintain is a really underrated unique improvement). No way does this one go out before something like Pax Britannica.

 

[Loderingo]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [12]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [2]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [28]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [18] 21-3 - On paper it looks quite good but I wonder how many gold this actual adds up to on most maps. I think Mali's other abilities are stronger.
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [8]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [2]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [28]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24] 23+1 - A very powerful ability. Ibrahim's Serasker promotion works really well with the Great Turkish Bombard. Janissary is a strong unit
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [5]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[bengalryan9]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [12]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [2]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29] (28+1) Playing a game as Sweden currently and yeah, this is really good.
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [18]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [5] (8-3) I agree that this doesn't do enough to make it worthwhile.
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [2]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [28]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [5]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[Icicle]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [12]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [2]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [18]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [5]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [2]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [29] (28+1) An extra charge for every builder is a simple and powerful enough tool to upvote at least once!
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [2] (5-3) The front half is about as niche and borderline useless as a civ ability can get, the second half is alright but depending on distances and pressure might not be practical to use. So, yeah, it's bad.
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[DogeEnricoDandolo]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [12]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
12. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu [2-3=ELIMINATED] Why would I want to share the spoils of war with my future enemy anyway? This ability is the worst one in multiplayer because it doesn't benefit you at all, but it does to your opponents.
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [18]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [5]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [2]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [29]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [3]=2+1 Not the best ability, sure, but does it deserve to go before Frederick's, Gilgamesh's or Philip's? People forget that the ability to generate envoys independently off the civic tree leads to suzerainty, which leads to diplomatic favor and dominance in world congress. With Tamar, declaring wars with casus belli is not to win it, it is to generate faith for a religious victory or a diplomatic victory. Once you get a target for this cb, you can just milk free faith off of them every 10 turns. The only reason it gets downvoted this hard cuz people don't like religion games, that's all.
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[lotrmith]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [12] I agree the bonus is decent. People just don't like a civ that doesn't fit a cookie cutter style?
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [21]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [19] = 18 + 1 Because I hate swimming in gold. /s Did you downvote this to stick it to the 1%?
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [2] = 5 - 3 Pedro II is worse than Phillip II.
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [2]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [29]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [3] Not the best ability, sure, but does it deserve to go before Frederick's? Hell yes it does. Not that this ability is bad, but it's mile behind Fred's. Fred's is *good*.
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[Datgingah]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [12]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [23]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [22] (21+1) Bonus combat strength, and production boost to three different districts? yes please
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [19]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [2]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [2]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [29]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
39. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom and Faith [3-3 = ELIMINATED] Yes envoys are nice, but the stipulations of founding a religion and spreading it to that city state take way too long for me to find it more then a win city states I already control more ability
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[monstercat]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [12]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [24] (23 + 1) 4 movement Varu's with 45 CS anyone? Another great domination ability.
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [18]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [22]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [19]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [2]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
31. Philip II - El Escorial [ELIMINATED] (2-3)Inquisitors still aren't good with the boosts. And if you want to convert the world, you won't get your free CS.
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [29]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[Kmart_Elvis]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [12]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [24]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [19] (18+1) It kicks in late but it snowballs like crazy. You can expand your empire without having to use military. Definitely unique and a fun playstyle.
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [24]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [22]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [19]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
28. Pedro II - Magnanimous [2-3=ELIMINATED] This is definitely a "win more" ability and it doesn't help you win more much. Only applies if you actually get a good string of people; useless if Kongo or Russia are in the game.
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [18]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [29]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[Leucarum]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [12]
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [24]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [19]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [25] (24+1) I really like how they managed to turn a briefly unbalanced mechanic into a flavourful and strong leader-specific ability.
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [22]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [19]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [15] (18-3) I really enjoy the Cree but this isn't an amazingly strong ability.
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [29]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[NullNullError]

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [9]12-3 I prefer abilities that influence/change your playstyle even the tinies amount. Making a district that takes 10 turns now only take 9 or 8 turns won't even be noticed by most. It doesn't even affect the buildings inside the districts. It definitly should go before a Frederick who has an additional Military policy slot.
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [24]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [19]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [5] 4+1 An additional military card can be something like Veternancy which gives +30% to encampments and harbors and even the buildings inside of them. Some might argue that this polcy card alone might be better than the one of amanitore but after you build up your infrastructure you can change it to a money generating card like addtional resourced, less maintenance or even more science. Military policy slots are probably the worst of all slots, that doesn't mean that they are worse than an ability that looks like a mediocre policy card that you can't take out.
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [22]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [25]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [22]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [19]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [15]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [29]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[Ceydezed]

2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [6] = 9-3. Following the thread here i guess, but i agree with what was said before. On a more personal note, it always irritate me to get 20% instead of 40%, which means that i will want to always place the UI next to the city center, which means that i will need to be close to desert, which sucks. Not great.
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [24]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [19]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [5]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [23] = 22+1. Excellent, versatile and complementary ability. You can either use the faith to build navy or (eventually, with the religion) buildings. Great for religion (early pantheon, better speed for religious unit), naval domination, culture (greater chance to get a religion with choral music) and early production (no need for god king).
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [25]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [22]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [19]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [15]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [29]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [21]
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]

 

[WillowBrook]

Edited to reflect missed votes and put missing Alexander back in

1. Alexander - To The World's End [24]
2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe [7] (6+1) extra production to districts is always welcome. Not a top-tier ability, but better than some of those remaining.
3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron [22]
4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra [24]
5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride [15]
6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon [21]
7. Dido - Founder of Carthage [17]
8. Eleanor of Aquitaine - Court of Love [19]
9. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire [4]
11. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde [20]
13. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds [23]
14. Gorgo - Thermopylae [14]
15. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North [25]
16. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind [22]
17. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union [21]
19. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization [21]
20. Kristina - Minerva of the North [29]
21. Kupe - Kupe's Voyage [8]
23. Mansa Musa - Sahel Merchants [19]
24. Matthias Corvinus - Raven King [27]
25. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani [23]
27. Pachacuti - Qhapaq Nañ [10]
29. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory [26]
32. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms [15]
33. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor [29]
35. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith [20]
36. Seondeok - Hwarang [18] (21-3) How is this better than free envoys or an extra military slot? Am I missing something?
37. Suleiman - Grand Vizier [24]
38. Shaka - Amabutho [21]
40. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary [22]
41. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus [22]
42. Trajan - Trajan's Column [23]
43. Victoria - Pax Britannica [20]
44. Wilfrid Laurier - The Last Best West [20]