Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Yes, the spot in between is on a river. Yellow dot is not.
GK1- The Wrath of Khan!!
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gormdragan
King
That's good, I picked orange only because of the river access. Your choice is definitely a better spot.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
One last thought, and then I'll shut up. A bit of reconnaissence around the north side of Paris might be a good idea before starting our short war against Joan.
*Sigh* - I guess she'll never like us now
*Sigh* - I guess she'll never like us now
Sir Bugsy, I now see why they call you guys "errant". You sure do think outside the box.
gormdragon, we're going to need all the mojo firebreathing you can muster. You sure inherited a bunch of bad choices.
I'll push one more time for the West Riding city placement as the first next best move. Pushing east towards Joanie and the iron and vino looks to be the best of the rest.
Joanie's got TW and IW no? We need to locate her horses, if she has any, we know where at least one iron is. That can be done while the Army of the East is a-buiilding. We've 12-16 turns for recon.
I'd stay out of the jungle meself. Too dark, too wet, too much like the monastery.
Talk to ya'll later
Bede
gormdragon, we're going to need all the mojo firebreathing you can muster. You sure inherited a bunch of bad choices.
I'll push one more time for the West Riding city placement as the first next best move. Pushing east towards Joanie and the iron and vino looks to be the best of the rest.
Joanie's got TW and IW no? We need to locate her horses, if she has any, we know where at least one iron is. That can be done while the Army of the East is a-buiilding. We've 12-16 turns for recon.
I'd stay out of the jungle meself. Too dark, too wet, too much like the monastery.
Talk to ya'll later
Bede
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Bede, sometimes we are some far away from the cardboard, we need to use binoculars to see where we used to be.
Have the time we discuss all sorts of crazy ideas and never get close to doing any of them. I find the strategy discussions to be very instructive in learning both positive and negative aspects of the game.
Onward, knights errant! I like that title, we can be
The Knights Errant of the Civ Table
Have the time we discuss all sorts of crazy ideas and never get close to doing any of them. I find the strategy discussions to be very instructive in learning both positive and negative aspects of the game.
Onward, knights errant! I like that title, we can be
The Knights Errant of the Civ Table
Gengis Khan
Deity
I think cyan should be our first city built. That will be a nice bonus to our production base & is on a river.
Beyond that we really need to find the nearest horse source before we build any more cities. Who knows we could get lucky & find a horse 6 tiles away from Berlin in the NW.
Beyond that we really need to find the nearest horse source before we build any more cities. Who knows we could get lucky & find a horse 6 tiles away from Berlin in the NW.
gormdragan
King
2110:
2070:
2030:
Berlin makes settler, starts war.
reg war kills con war, +25gp.
Still no sign of horses.
Stop here to review.
Located a wealth of ivory. I have half a heart to go for the dyes+ivory and settle to the west of Berlin.
The settler is on his way to cyan spot, can veto.
2070:
2030:
Berlin makes settler, starts war.
reg war kills con war, +25gp.
Still no sign of horses.
Stop here to review.
Located a wealth of ivory. I have half a heart to go for the dyes+ivory and settle to the west of Berlin.
The settler is on his way to cyan spot, can veto.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Bede's going to love this one. So far outside the box, the cardboard is only availble with a telescope.
How about if we built our cites quite a distanc e away from each other. Like one by the ivory, one by the dyes, one by the incense, and Paris.
Advantages - If the spacing is right, corruption shouldn't be an issue. We have a much greater coverage of land. Other civs won't be able to settle next to our resources and ruin our colonies.
Disadvantages - can't give mutual support until roads are developed. A lot of worker turns to connect each city.
What do you think?
*Bugsy grabs the empty pizza box and places it on his head expecting incoming empty beer cans to be thrown at him*
How about if we built our cites quite a distanc e away from each other. Like one by the ivory, one by the dyes, one by the incense, and Paris.
Advantages - If the spacing is right, corruption shouldn't be an issue. We have a much greater coverage of land. Other civs won't be able to settle next to our resources and ruin our colonies.
Disadvantages - can't give mutual support until roads are developed. A lot of worker turns to connect each city.
What do you think?
*Bugsy grabs the empty pizza box and places it on his head expecting incoming empty beer cans to be thrown at him*
Bugsy,
Having our cities so far apart scares this old monk!! But that's why I'm in the monastery and you're on a quest I guess.
gorm,
Keep pushing that warrior west. We need to find the wicked witch of the west and position ourselves to get advance warning of any of her flying monkeys heading our way.
The SE city spot looks good if you still intend to shortstop Joanie with a "little war". Then I should think up the coast to just above the cattle, that way we will funnel the witch of the east into the plains surrounded by mountains directly east of Berlin. Need to keep a gimlet eye on that iron mountain NW of Paris. If Joanie hooks it up we got a BIIIG problem as the military we can build will just get chewed up by her swords.
Keep on pushing gorm.
Bede
Having our cities so far apart scares this old monk!! But that's why I'm in the monastery and you're on a quest I guess.
gorm,
Keep pushing that warrior west. We need to find the wicked witch of the west and position ourselves to get advance warning of any of her flying monkeys heading our way.
The SE city spot looks good if you still intend to shortstop Joanie with a "little war". Then I should think up the coast to just above the cattle, that way we will funnel the witch of the east into the plains surrounded by mountains directly east of Berlin. Need to keep a gimlet eye on that iron mountain NW of Paris. If Joanie hooks it up we got a BIIIG problem as the military we can build will just get chewed up by her swords.
Keep on pushing gorm.
Bede
Gengis Khan
Deity
Interesting idea Bugsy.
Advantages:
If we could work it out with regards to RCP, corruption wouldn't be that bad at all(maybe 1 to 2 shields lost to each city).
Happiness wouldn't be a problem for..........ever.
No colonies to worry about protecting.
Mass amounts of cultural building in each town would ensure we control the whole area & don't have to worry about the AI settling in between our cities. Plus a better chance of new resources popping up in our territory.
Disadvantages: We'd have to pump out a bunch of workers. At least 1 to go along with each settler/spear pair initially.
Very difficult to reinforce threatened cities.
Slow initial growth.
I think it would defiantly help us out if we could survive long term, but setting it up & lasting that long with the inevitable SoD the English will be sending our way would be difficult to say the least. Although if we could pull it off & win a 5CC with our cities set up like that from the jump it would defiantly be one for the record books.
Advantages:
If we could work it out with regards to RCP, corruption wouldn't be that bad at all(maybe 1 to 2 shields lost to each city).
Happiness wouldn't be a problem for..........ever.
No colonies to worry about protecting.
Mass amounts of cultural building in each town would ensure we control the whole area & don't have to worry about the AI settling in between our cities. Plus a better chance of new resources popping up in our territory.
Disadvantages: We'd have to pump out a bunch of workers. At least 1 to go along with each settler/spear pair initially.
Very difficult to reinforce threatened cities.
Slow initial growth.
I think it would defiantly help us out if we could survive long term, but setting it up & lasting that long with the inevitable SoD the English will be sending our way would be difficult to say the least. Although if we could pull it off & win a 5CC with our cities set up like that from the jump it would defiantly be one for the record books.
gormdragan
King
I would go for a widespread strategy. Please comment on where we want the 4 cities.
Gengis Khan
Deity
You would go along with it or you think it would be advantagous?
gormdragan
King
Never tried b4, I think it is doable and I think it is advantageous. I think we need the extra ivories and dyes for trading and since we are only at war with 1 AI at a time in Monarch, defence shouldn't be a concern.
Gengis Khan
Deity
If we could pull this one off "errant" doesn't even begin to cover us.I'll check it out. It would be nice if we could get a perfect ring with at least the dyes, incense, & ivory.
Where's the settler at now?
gormdragan
King
The mountain 2 squares east from Berlin under the war.
One thing to consider.........
You will never get your borders expanded fast enough to prevent the AI from dropping 1 or even 2 cities between your cities.
That in itself brings a lot of implications to bear. For instance, will you need an ROP just to move units from city to city?
Just some food for thought.
You will never get your borders expanded fast enough to prevent the AI from dropping 1 or even 2 cities between your cities.
That in itself brings a lot of implications to bear. For instance, will you need an ROP just to move units from city to city?
Just some food for thought.
Gengis Khan
Deity
I know we wouldn't, but that indirectly would help us out even more.
Say they do drop a city in between our core, nothing like razing it(netting some slaves in the process) to make them cough up some techs, & with us surrounding them we could raze it & then sue for peace long(hopefully) before they could get troops to our cities........ as long as horses are as scarce for us as they are for them.
Say they do drop a city in between our core, nothing like razing it(netting some slaves in the process) to make them cough up some techs, & with us surrounding them we could raze it & then sue for peace long(hopefully) before they could get troops to our cities........ as long as horses are as scarce for us as they are for them.
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
I full agree. An AI settling in between is no problem at all.
Gorm, go ahead! We can decide about the other 3 cities later.
Gorm, go ahead! We can decide about the other 3 cities later.
gormdragan
King
Err, I am not sure if we are still settling on cyan. Please give me a confirmation.
The Curia is, as always, slightly obtuse, but the consensus seems to be the cyan spot, the ivory, then the dyes, at the same time trying to wrest Paris from Joan and fend off the flying monkeys from the west.
Does that sound about right?
Bede, the confused
Does that sound about right?
Bede, the confused
