Gold needed to change policy?
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myclan
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The cost also seems to gradually decline when sticking to the current policies, but I don't know about the detail. Thanks a lot if you could help
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Initial findings and guesses
The number of techs/civics has a ceiling and floor unlock cost
When you change civics, the next turn they cost the ceiling price to change
Every turn after that they degrade by 15/10/5 (may be higher on later levels)
They stop degrading when they hit the floor price.
Unlocking and changing civics bumps them back up to their max
... so if you finish a civic but do not change civics, it is pretty cheap to unlock lateras it is using the floor price or close to it.
You cannot buy an unlock the same turn as you have changed civics
Pillaging and eureka completions immediately up the price by 5/10
Difficuly has no effect, maybe speed does, need to check.
So finding ceilings and floors is next I guess. Many values degrade by a turn before you see them due to EOT or just oddness so mabe the base is number of civics*5 and the ceiling is 100+ techs+civics*5 or the greater of the two. It will be around here somewhere
Just initial findings but thought I would provide some stats to start
This one from the start of being able to buy, testing unlocking and depreciation
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Lily_Lancer
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It is interesting however as you get so many free chances to change civic nobody uses gold to unlock them.
Shall remove the free civic change, make it that every time you need to change a civic you must use gold.
Shall remove the free civic change, make it that every time you need to change a civic you must use gold.
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That would be quite an interesting gameplay twist. I'd like to try it.
Lily_Lancer
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My guess:
Cost= 100*(1+9*progression_factor)*max(0.15, 1-0.1*t) , rounds down to 5 gold.
progression factor=max(tech/total_techs, civic/total_civics)
t=number of turns from the last time you unlock the civic change(either through gold or through completion of civic/slot wonder/dark age entering)
Question: Does government matters?
Cost= 100*(1+9*progression_factor)*max(0.15, 1-0.1*t) , rounds down to 5 gold.
progression factor=max(tech/total_techs, civic/total_civics)
t=number of turns from the last time you unlock the civic change(either through gold or through completion of civic/slot wonder/dark age entering)
Question: Does government matters?
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Still lots to test, and I take it easy nowadays, I prefer to play more and test less but will get there. Thanks for a formula, these things really help.
So not looed at governments or speed or eras etc. Just goot the simple mechanics down for a start. It is a small area.
I find it interesting that if you forget to change civics the cost is relatively small to change next turn, but if you make a bad choice and need to change, it is more expensive.
Hakan-i Cihan
Emperor
I wouldn't mind a change there either. Though mine would be more from a immersion perspective (laws are not changed freely and without any resistance in a country). The change could be done with gold for every time civic cards are changed or go even a step further. A lesser form of anarchy, civil disorder, could be reintroduced in the form of -x% (not too harsh of course: -10% to maybe -20%) on some (or all) yields for 1 turn. But even the possibility to change cards for free to cost a bit of gold seems a good idea. The gold cost could also be tied on number of cards that are being changed.
criZp
Deity
It still makes sense to me that a player should be able to slot in any newly unlocked policy without paying, it's just the "unlock new policies, slot in completely different ones for free" that is dumb.
