Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
I wonder what number choice the Falkland Islands were?
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Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
Events in Russia During the 28th Session of Duma
January 8th, 1981
Coffee House Outside the Kremlin
Zyuganov sits quitly across the table from a Military Officer. The Coffee House is closed to the public and they are the only people there.
"I guarantee you we have popular support. Just look at the numbers - way more than a third, more than anyone else."
"True..." - the officer did not look as convinced, - "but what is it going to go back to? How do you see the future?"
"What is it going to go back to? No more of this wishy-washy politics, consessions here and there. We will show them what Russia is, and it is a Great Power, the Greaest Power."
After a very long pause the Officer said quitly - "You have the support of my division."
January 9th, 1981
Presidential Office in the Kremlin
Mr. Naryshkin was pacing back and forth. Everything was going badly for the newly elected president. War with the USA looming overhead, Mongolia going to China seen as a sigh of weakness, gang problems sprouting up in Moscow.
"How does it look?" - Naryshkin didn't even look at the other person in the room.
"The session of Duma opens tomorrow, the Communists are rallying the opposition."
"I mean...how likely is impeachment?" - It took effort for Naryshkin to say that word.
"The Communists will bring it up. Weather it will work or not...that depends..."
"Lets go pray Alex, pray for some mirracle to happen that will prevent all of this from happening..." - but he knew full well that weather he would pray or not tomorrow would still come and the atheist Communists would still try to impeach him.
January 10th, 1981
Opening of the 28th Session of Duma
A huge crowd gathered in front of the White House on the 10th. One side was full of Communist Activists who were staging an anti-government meeting, and the other side where the Zhirinovsky Supporters leading an ultranationalist rally. The two parts of the Russian opposition almost came to clashes with each other, but then the president arrived.
Mr. Naryshkin walked solemly from his car to the entrance into the White House, while protestors on both sides of him where chanting "Naryshkin go home."
Zhirinovsky on one side and Zyuganov on the other where smiling - both were satisfied with their supporters.
January 12th, 1981
Session of Duma
The first two days Khodorkovsky and his supporters tried to do everything they could do ease the fire on Naryshkin. They objected, used procedural traps, insisited on hearing long reports read, but it was all useless.
"I would like to know," - roared Zyuganov, - "what happened in Romania? Who are these people who we allegedly have in custody? Why do we have political prisoners in custody? What is going on?"
Naryshkin did not have an answer. If only Romania would not play stupid and would not deny that the people were turned over to Russia, but no...Caessescu had to be difficult and complicate things...
"And what about America?" - Zhirinovsky this time, - "they are openly breaking the restrictions placed on them, and what do you do? What?"
Again Naryshkin had nothing to say. Of course they were breaking the treaty, but Russia needed to work closer with the USA, not antagonize them...but the argument was mute in the ears of an ultranationalist...
It seemed that every argument was mute...
January 13th, 1981
Session of Duma
Indoneisa...it be damned.
"Mr. Lavrov, is it true that the Indonesian government is a dictatorship?"
"It is not exactly a dictatorship, they do not have a dictator. He has been elected, although I must say that many of the usual civil libirties are lacking in Indonesia."
"Mr. Lavrov, did this 'dictator' come to power to replace a Russian government in Indonesia?"
"He did."
"Thank you Mr. Lavrov," - Lavrov did all he could to save the President, but he did not lie.
"And so my friends, here we have a president who supports a dictator who deposed a Russian government and who cuts the civil liberties of his people. I say he must be done away with." - Zyuganov was pleased, - "And our honorable Mr. Khodorkovsky supported this move!" - a silence falls in Duma. Before this the attack was thought to be on Naryshkin alone, but now Khodorkovsky came under attack.
The Communists did not want to just bite the government, they wanted to swallow it whole.
January 15th, 1981
Meeting of Government Leaders
"He did what is right, and we all know it," - Nemtsov stood by Khodorkovsky and Naryshkin with all his might, - "We will be better off this way."
"Nemtsov, you dont know what you are saying," - This was Yavlinsky, - "The Communists will win the next election if we allow them to paint us as people who support dictators and civil rights abusers."
"The people are not that stupid!" - Nemtsov was not going to let the Communists take down Naryshkin.
"The matter is," - Said Putin, - "we cannot give up Naryshkin or Khodorkovsky. If we do so then its a Communist victory, and those are too dangerous to have around here. I'm staying with Mikhail."
"I'm not." - Yavlinsky and Putin have always been long enemies and only necessity brought them into cooperation, - "You all can sacrifice your positions for nothing, I will not."
As Yavlinsky walked out thunder roared over Moscow. Both real and metaphorical. The Coalition was failing.
January 18th, 1981
Session of Duma
Trying not to look defeated the Liberals walked into the White House. Only around 30% of the Duma now supported Khodorkovsky, and even less supported Naryshkin. The Communists did not even need the ultranationalists to topple the government.
"A motion to issue impeachment to the President" - Zyuganov was shining.
"Denied," - came the reply from a Liberal Speaker, - "Any other motions on the floor?"
"Denied? Denied? Why?" - Zyuganov was on his feet, yelling.
"The motion will not be considered. Any other motions?"
"I'll show you a motion. I'll show you!" - and the first hit landed on the liberal deputy in the first row. Within minutes the Session turned into a fist fight.
And outside the building a crowd waving red flags was gathering.
January 20th, 1981
Emergency Committee
Any Duma activity over the last three days has been paralized. Liberals refused to hear the motion of impeachment while the Communists refused to do anything else. On the third day Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky, and Glazyev formed the "Emergency Committee of Government."
"People of Russia! The Government has reserved to illeagal means in order to stop the will of the people. In response we, the leaders of the three parties forming the majority in Duma, have formed this Committee. We will administer the country until new elections can be held and a new government elected. We urge you to cooperate so that this may happen as soon as possible."
A tank division under General Petrov took positions in Moscow.
The crowd with red flags outside the White House was growing.
January 22nd, 1981
Session of Duma
The Liberals, to save the country from a Civil War, agreed to allow the motion to issue and Impeachment to the President. Prior to it, however, a few reports were heard.
Mr. Ivanov presented a report on the military in which he praised the efforts of Mr. Khodorkovsky. He announced that a base in Indonesia will be most useful and pointed out that Russia also has two bases in the UIS. To finish everything off he announced that Russia will be testing a new solid-propellant missile later this year.
Mr. Lavrov announced that within two years integration with Finland will take place, and pointed out that China was going to pay the debt that Mongolia owed to Russia. He then announced that Russia was begining talks with the Commonwealth Union about a union between the two countries.
Both of these reports were aimed at the same thing - to swing the nationalists to support the government.
Voting took place by secret ballot, and by a vote of 211 to 239 the motion failed.
Khodorkovsky's and Naryshkin's government was staying in power, but only because of rhetoric and promises, and they now had better deliver on those promises.
OOC: I don't like this story as much as I like my other once, sorry. I decided to post it anyways, since I spent some time on it.
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
To USE
From Russia
Russia is very concerned with the war between the USE and the UIS. According to the Yalta Agreement from 1969 both the UIS and the USE agreed to destroy all WMD, but it appears it was not done. Russia would like to strongly encourage both nations to sign a cease fire and to meet in Russia in order to re-word the details of the Yalta Agreement.
From Russia
Russia is very concerned with the war between the USE and the UIS. According to the Yalta Agreement from 1969 both the UIS and the USE agreed to destroy all WMD, but it appears it was not done. Russia would like to strongly encourage both nations to sign a cease fire and to meet in Russia in order to re-word the details of the Yalta Agreement.
Insane_Panda
Deity
WTH. NIEN!!!
I agree with bannanarama.
I agree with bannanarama.
foolish icarus
Shipwreck
Argentina to Yugoslavia :
Thank you for the offer, but we already possess nuclear technology.
Thank you for the offer, but we already possess nuclear technology.
JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
To Russia
From the USE
We would agree to a ceasefire and end to this war wholeheartedly, but the stubborn extremists in the UIS refuse to accept anything but an unattainable victory for themselves.
Not only this, it would worry the USE to know that there are crazed individuals in the United Islamic Empire that are willing to use not just any kind of WMD's, but nuclear weapons without discretion or in self defense.
We realize that the Russian government can do nothing to anger the large Muslim minority within its borders, but merely standing around continually dodging any sort of involvement in this conflict is only sealing your own fate for eventual collapse of your own multinational empire, which continues to grow with the recent annexation of the CU
We ask that you show some guts and officially cease trading with the Islamic Empire in an effort to put pressure on them to accept their loss in this recent war and allow the population of Cyprus to rule as they wish as a part of Greece, and dismantle any WMD's with USE, SADETO, Russian, and multiple other representatives who can attest to this full and total disarmament.
OOC: Stormy's 40% of oil production is probably a bit of an exxageration... but Russia is still a major producer of oil.
From the USE
We would agree to a ceasefire and end to this war wholeheartedly, but the stubborn extremists in the UIS refuse to accept anything but an unattainable victory for themselves.
Not only this, it would worry the USE to know that there are crazed individuals in the United Islamic Empire that are willing to use not just any kind of WMD's, but nuclear weapons without discretion or in self defense.
We realize that the Russian government can do nothing to anger the large Muslim minority within its borders, but merely standing around continually dodging any sort of involvement in this conflict is only sealing your own fate for eventual collapse of your own multinational empire, which continues to grow with the recent annexation of the CU
We ask that you show some guts and officially cease trading with the Islamic Empire in an effort to put pressure on them to accept their loss in this recent war and allow the population of Cyprus to rule as they wish as a part of Greece, and dismantle any WMD's with USE, SADETO, Russian, and multiple other representatives who can attest to this full and total disarmament.
OOC: Stormy's 40% of oil production is probably a bit of an exxageration... but Russia is still a major producer of oil.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
Ha! The UIS has no WMD, I will gladgly allow international inspectors to ascertain this. It is in fact the USE, SEDATO and others who continue to have these weapons.
Stormbringer
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The both of you need to calm down. According to my reports neither one of you has WMDs, and lets keep it that way. Now, I would like Goober to walk me through the history of Cyprus for the last 50 years if that is ok. After that I will propose my version of the peace treaty, and until then I suggest you sign a cease fire unless you two want to keep killing your own armies for no reason.
Goober
Turning Right ...
Ok, time for some replies . . .
Storm, use Wiki for that.
For the record, the Russian colony of Alaska does not include modern-day ANWR, and its estimated 11 billion barrels of Oil underneath prime Cariboo Migration routes. That is part of Nunavut.
The CU Parliament rejects the hasty decision by the CU President (or PM) top join the Russian Federation. The possibility of forming a Union with the RF are being discussed, however. The CU Parliament is NOT happy with the President/PM, and are looking at changing him for a better one. The CU cannot simply be forced to join any nation at the whim of the President/PM.
The UIR is ignoirng the CUs pathetic demands for money. Jordan is part of the UIR, period. Not a penny will be paid to the CU from the UIR.
Hmm, anything else I missed? Gosh you guys post a lot in a day . . .
Storm, use Wiki for that.
For the record, the Russian colony of Alaska does not include modern-day ANWR, and its estimated 11 billion barrels of Oil underneath prime Cariboo Migration routes. That is part of Nunavut.
The CU Parliament rejects the hasty decision by the CU President (or PM) top join the Russian Federation. The possibility of forming a Union with the RF are being discussed, however. The CU Parliament is NOT happy with the President/PM, and are looking at changing him for a better one. The CU cannot simply be forced to join any nation at the whim of the President/PM.
The UIR is ignoirng the CUs pathetic demands for money. Jordan is part of the UIR, period. Not a penny will be paid to the CU from the UIR.
Hmm, anything else I missed? Gosh you guys post a lot in a day . . .
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India condemns the posession and usuage of nuclear weaponry by the UIS. Espically upon their own citizens. Clearly the government of the UIS is insane and cannot be trusted.
India holds the government of the UIS responsible for these terroist acts. Not only is the government of the UIS terroist sponsering as has been revealed by our intelligence it apprtantley bombed it's own mosques in a attempt to provoke war with India.
India urges all nations of the world to condemn these dangerous actions of the UIS.
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Prime Ministers Office
New Delhi India
Local Time: 0600 Saturday May 5, 1981
GMT: 0030 Saturday May 5,1981
What have we ascertained? asked Indhira Gandhi to the Director of Indian Intelligence at the National Security Council Meeting.
Unni Krishnan leaned back at the table and folded his hands before answering We have carried out a investigation into the bomb blasts and from interrogation and other sources we have determined they were carried out by elements of the UIS military likely on orders by their government.
The places that were struck include a car bomb in Marahastara which killed 10 people and injured 5 others, one in Delhi with 7 killed and 3 wounded. It was carried out in Northern India mostly with approximately 30 dead and 50 wounded.
We have captured and interrogated several terrorists and from what we have gathered they were trained by the UIS in training camps in Pakistan and Iran before infiltrating the border and carrying out the attacks.
What of these accusations by the UIS of Hindus blowing up mosques? questioned Indhira Gandhi
A hoax Madame Prime Minister Krishnan replied, We have found out that it was carried out by the UIS themselves.
Her brow creased They kill their own citizens but why?
Krishnan sighed, Its quite simple. The UIS faces massive separatist problems and the hold on their alliance is tenuous. They just started a disastrous war on the USE and Greece, which they can only lose. They need something to unify their people a war against us would be the perfect. However they need an excuse to attack us and by blowing up their own mosques now they have one.
My god Indhira Gandhi whispered Theyre insane
Actually that may be true Madame Prime Minister said Krishnan The government of the UIS is not exactly one would call reasonable. They detonated a nuclear bomb in their own city killing 4 million of their own citizens, they started a foolish war against Greece and the USE over a land that is not even Muslim, they carried out terrorist attacks against us and blew up their own mosques. Now they present us with insane demands such as getting rid of our nuclear weaponry, which is one of the main defenses, we have against a UIS invasion. Then they demand Kashmir and Bangladesh and that Sri Lanka is independent and that we create a 50 mile DMZ on OUR side of the border. None of these lands are even Muslim all are either Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Jain or one of the other groups yet they demand it as they did Cyprus.
They know we will never agree to such demands, said Indhira Gandhi What do they think they could possibly hope to achieve?
Again they want a excuse to go to war said Krishnan They know we will refuse such mad demands so they hope to get yet another excuse for war.
Alright now how does China fit into to all of this?
As we know the UIS and China are cooperating. Notice how skirmishes with China broke out at exactly the same time as skirmishes with Pakistan broke out? China and the UIS have an agreement clearly. If the UIS attacks us China will too.
Gandhi frowned But Im convinced China does not want war
Chief of the Army Staff George Fernandez spoke up I must agree China would be insane to attack us. The entire Chinese border is heavily fortified with bunkers, land mines, and in addition to that it is mountainous. The last time the Chinese attacked they didnt get far. This time they wont either. Our troops are dug in the Chinese will have to advance along the mountain pathways and ledges which are narrow. The men have to walk in single file if they slip and fall it is certain death. If we pin them down with machine gun fire there is nowhere to flee. Once they are out there the units will be cut off without a radio link. And of course there is the cold and thin air, which saps the strength of the men. Our soldiers are already there and acclimatized to the region know the area and are fighting for their homeland. China cannot win.
Unni Krishnan replied, That may be the case but China will push us as far as they can go to threaten us to give them Aski Chin. We own Aski Chin our troops occupy it and it is ours yet China claims it. China hopes that by allying with the UIS it can get what it wants.
So in short said Indhira Gandhi This is the price of peace that the UIS and China want. We give Kashmir and Bangladesh to the UIS, give Sri Lanka independence, give up our nuclear weaponry making it easier for them to invade us, and hand over Aski Chin to the Chinese. And it will go like that chiseling away at us to make us the weaker power in Asia.
She paused lost in her own thoughts for a moment then summed it up It is not the road that India would seek to go down
New Delhi India
Local Time: 0600 Saturday May 5, 1981
GMT: 0030 Saturday May 5,1981
What have we ascertained? asked Indhira Gandhi to the Director of Indian Intelligence at the National Security Council Meeting.
Unni Krishnan leaned back at the table and folded his hands before answering We have carried out a investigation into the bomb blasts and from interrogation and other sources we have determined they were carried out by elements of the UIS military likely on orders by their government.
The places that were struck include a car bomb in Marahastara which killed 10 people and injured 5 others, one in Delhi with 7 killed and 3 wounded. It was carried out in Northern India mostly with approximately 30 dead and 50 wounded.
We have captured and interrogated several terrorists and from what we have gathered they were trained by the UIS in training camps in Pakistan and Iran before infiltrating the border and carrying out the attacks.
What of these accusations by the UIS of Hindus blowing up mosques? questioned Indhira Gandhi
A hoax Madame Prime Minister Krishnan replied, We have found out that it was carried out by the UIS themselves.
Her brow creased They kill their own citizens but why?
Krishnan sighed, Its quite simple. The UIS faces massive separatist problems and the hold on their alliance is tenuous. They just started a disastrous war on the USE and Greece, which they can only lose. They need something to unify their people a war against us would be the perfect. However they need an excuse to attack us and by blowing up their own mosques now they have one.
My god Indhira Gandhi whispered Theyre insane
Actually that may be true Madame Prime Minister said Krishnan The government of the UIS is not exactly one would call reasonable. They detonated a nuclear bomb in their own city killing 4 million of their own citizens, they started a foolish war against Greece and the USE over a land that is not even Muslim, they carried out terrorist attacks against us and blew up their own mosques. Now they present us with insane demands such as getting rid of our nuclear weaponry, which is one of the main defenses, we have against a UIS invasion. Then they demand Kashmir and Bangladesh and that Sri Lanka is independent and that we create a 50 mile DMZ on OUR side of the border. None of these lands are even Muslim all are either Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Jain or one of the other groups yet they demand it as they did Cyprus.
They know we will never agree to such demands, said Indhira Gandhi What do they think they could possibly hope to achieve?
Again they want a excuse to go to war said Krishnan They know we will refuse such mad demands so they hope to get yet another excuse for war.
Alright now how does China fit into to all of this?
As we know the UIS and China are cooperating. Notice how skirmishes with China broke out at exactly the same time as skirmishes with Pakistan broke out? China and the UIS have an agreement clearly. If the UIS attacks us China will too.
Gandhi frowned But Im convinced China does not want war
Chief of the Army Staff George Fernandez spoke up I must agree China would be insane to attack us. The entire Chinese border is heavily fortified with bunkers, land mines, and in addition to that it is mountainous. The last time the Chinese attacked they didnt get far. This time they wont either. Our troops are dug in the Chinese will have to advance along the mountain pathways and ledges which are narrow. The men have to walk in single file if they slip and fall it is certain death. If we pin them down with machine gun fire there is nowhere to flee. Once they are out there the units will be cut off without a radio link. And of course there is the cold and thin air, which saps the strength of the men. Our soldiers are already there and acclimatized to the region know the area and are fighting for their homeland. China cannot win.
Unni Krishnan replied, That may be the case but China will push us as far as they can go to threaten us to give them Aski Chin. We own Aski Chin our troops occupy it and it is ours yet China claims it. China hopes that by allying with the UIS it can get what it wants.
So in short said Indhira Gandhi This is the price of peace that the UIS and China want. We give Kashmir and Bangladesh to the UIS, give Sri Lanka independence, give up our nuclear weaponry making it easier for them to invade us, and hand over Aski Chin to the Chinese. And it will go like that chiseling away at us to make us the weaker power in Asia.
She paused lost in her own thoughts for a moment then summed it up It is not the road that India would seek to go down
What happens to the 9 eco. the states had of their own money Goober? It doesn't seem like they spent it. First they seem to have ignored my orders to take +1 from the CU's own coffers to upgrade and now they haven't even spent their two thirds on stuff of their own. ???
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Hmmm... I was thinking more of independant protectorates. We can't agree with becoming autonomous republics. We'd have to stay in control of our cashflow - we're very burgoise... And with the current going-on's in the Duma about communism. We'll see... I'll look for ways to build bridges between our two nations to close the gap further.
(PS. This of course does not mean sharing privy tech. with partners w/ Russia as it would be a breach of agreement. Where has Blackheart been recently?)
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(I got to spend 6 out of 15 eco - the states didn't spend their 9)
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Hmmm... I was thinking more of independant protectorates. We can't agree with becoming autonomous republics. We'd have to stay in control of our cashflow - we're very burgoise... And with the current going-on's in the Duma about communism. We'll see... I'll look for ways to build bridges between our two nations to close the gap further.
(PS. This of course does not mean sharing privy tech. with partners w/ Russia as it would be a breach of agreement. Where has Blackheart been recently?)
blackheart
unenlightened
ooc toteone, please act at least somewhat sane and IC.
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To: United Korea
From: Japan
Our god-emperor has decided that all Korean refugees will be granted asylum in Japan. Anyone Korean forces trying to stop refugees will be shot and destroyed. Any refugee ships clear of Korean waters will be considered refugees of Japan and will have our protection. Good day.
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To: United Korea
From: Japan
Our god-emperor has decided that all Korean refugees will be granted asylum in Japan. Anyone Korean forces trying to stop refugees will be shot and destroyed. Any refugee ships clear of Korean waters will be considered refugees of Japan and will have our protection. Good day.
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