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There isnt a good reason to get a non-widescreen monitor.
 
With that graphics card it can handle any scaling that needs to be done anyway, and it will do it well. I love widescreen.
 
Response time is how long it takes the unit to go to show the data from the time it gets it, so lower is better.
 
Whoops. Sorry it took me a while to reply, I didn't get an email.

I'm thinking of this DVD/CD Burner, it has a very high rating and its within a reasonable price range:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106288

The monitor, I'm really am concerned about getting a 22'', so I'm going to stick with a 20''. In fact, I just measured, and I barely have enough space for a 22''. The one I chose has 2ms, a contrast of 8000:1 and it has a resolution of 1680x1050 as a result of the widescreen function all for only $194.99:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005991CVF

My question, is this monitor compatible with the computer parts I selected?

As a recap, these are the parts we've agreed upon so far (except for the monitor and disc drive which I haven't been able to get any advice yet):

As you can see, the mouse and keyboard I was planning of total to around $180 including taxes. :eek: I need something cheaper than that, so if there are any recommendations, that would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: I also need the power supply because my case doesn't have one, right? I know that some cases already have power supplies built in them. My other question is how much should I expect the fans to cost?

Links for Case and Power Supply:
Power- http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=N82E16817139006
Case- http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144102

Edit 2: The price changed for the case, its cheaper so its a good thing but how frequent does this occur on New Egg?
 

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PSU -- yeh, you have to buy it. According to everything I heard here, brand is more important than how big it is, e.g. a good-quality 300W will give you more than a cheap-o 500W.
 
Newegg is constantly having sales and discounts, so that's typical.

The amount of power delivered is the first most important thing in a PSU, that's what its purpose is. After that you want to make sure it's delivering clean power (no spikes in voltage/current), efficient, and preferably quiet and cool. Those things you can get an idea will be "good" by going with a well known brand.

I'll throw out a personal suggestion to get a logitech G5 laser gaming mouse. I love mine. Wired or wireless is your preference. Potentially you may want to go into a store and see how the ones they have on display feel.
 
The amount of power delivered is the first most important thing in a PSU, that's what its purpose is.

Except the rating on power supplies is not useful for telling you how much power they can deliver.

For that you have to visit a review site (a good one, there are A LOT of bad PSU reviews) that loads the power supply to see what it can actually deliver.
 
So the Power Supply that was recommended has high numeric review (as in 92% rated it in the 4-5 star range), the cons only varied from lots of cords/connections, some considered that a pro however, and requires lots of outside air in order to keep it cool (only one person said that in the first couple dozens reviews).

Sounds good. Any people here who want to add to that?

I'm still wondering about the fans... how many might I need? What price should I expect? Does the case I have provide enough space?
 
So the Power Supply that was recommended has high numeric review (as in 92% rated it in the 4-5 star range), the cons only varied from lots of cords/connections, some considered that a pro however, and requires lots of outside air in order to keep it cool (only one person said that in the first couple dozens reviews).

Sounds good. Any people here who want to add to that?

I'm still wondering about the fans... how many might I need? What price should I expect? Does the case I have provide enough space?

That's a good PSU... but I wouldn't go off of Newegg reviews for PSU quality.

The majority of hardware sites to a poor job of reviewing power supplies, I wouldn't trust the average newegg customer to be any better.
 
check out Bit-Tech, Anandtech and HardOCP for PSU reviews. HardOCP especially caters to enthusiasts, and they do a good job testing PSU's.
 
Someone's probably already said this, but a 3GHz processor is a bit overkill. Even 2.8 is rather high. Most of the processors in prebuilts are between 2 and 2.4Ghz. However a modern 2.4Ghz is far better than an older 2.4Ghz. My 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo is about 3-4x more powerful than my old 2.4Ghz Pentium 4, despite having the same clock speed.

Number of cores, L2 cache and a number of other things are important as clock speed, in fact as you go higher up, some of them become more important.

Not to mention your hoping to spend under $1000. Dell wanted €200 ($300-400) to up from stock 1.8Ghz to 3 Ghz when I was buying my computer. In the end I spent €60 to get 2.4. Even ignoring Dell's overpricing, that could still be $250 on the processor, a quarter of your budget.

And 3GB ram - 3 Ghz processor is totally unbalanced. You need more GB of RAM, than you do Ghz of proccesor.
 
I suggest dropping down to a Q8200 and then getting a cheaper mouse. Something like a Razer DeathAdder, or whichever one it is thats 50USD.

tonyf12 -- if you will notice, the list has a 2.5gHz Q8300. But your point is very much valid, in the sense that you get less and less value out of every dollar as you go up in price. There is a sweet spot where you get the most performance per dollar, and that sweet spot aint at 3gHz. Of course, you can always take your CPU up to those speeds, especially if its a C2D/Q, which are excellent overclockers.
 
:mad: No emails!

That's a good PSU... but I wouldn't go off of Newegg reviews for PSU quality.

The majority of hardware sites to a poor job of reviewing power supplies, I wouldn't trust the average newegg customer to be any better.

check out Bit-Tech, Anandtech and HardOCP for PSU reviews. HardOCP especially caters to enthusiasts, and they do a good job testing PSU's.

I'll be sure to do just this! :goodjob:

Someone's probably already said this, but a 3GHz processor is a bit overkill. Even 2.8 is rather high. Most of the processors in prebuilts are between 2 and 2.4Ghz. However a modern 2.4Ghz is far better than an older 2.4Ghz. My 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo is about 3-4x more powerful than my old 2.4Ghz Pentium 4, despite having the same clock speed.

Number of cores, L2 cache and a number of other things are important as clock speed, in fact as you go higher up, some of them become more important.

Not to mention your hoping to spend under $1000. Dell wanted €200 ($300-400) to up from stock 1.8Ghz to 3 Ghz when I was buying my computer. In the end I spent €60 to get 2.4. Even ignoring Dell's overpricing, that could still be $250 on the processor, a quarter of your budget.

And 3GB ram - 3 Ghz processor is totally unbalanced. You need more GB of RAM, than you do Ghz of proccesor.

I'm confused (like always :p). I selected a 2.5GHz processor with so I don't know what your complaining about. Although, I will admit that I didn't know what I was talking about before, thankfully the people here have taught me right (but I'll also admit I'm am not nearly finished learning).

Spoiler for unrelated :
The only reasons why I think you think all that is either I didn't say I was getting this processor, or you weren't able to read the rest of the thread. It seems to be the latter because I remember asking for around a 3GHz processor at the beginning of this thread. Boy! Have I learned a lot since then??


The processor I selected is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115207&Tpk=Q8300. Although this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017 has more cache (if I read it correctly that is), I was told that the Q6600 series is an older one and I should get something more recent.

Am I correct about you not reading the rest of the thread (I don't blame you, I'll admit its a lot to read :lol:).

I suggest dropping down to a Q8200 and then getting a cheaper mouse. Something like a Razer DeathAdder, or whichever one it is thats 50USD.

tonyf12 -- if you will notice, the list has a 2.5gHz Q8300. But your point is very much valid, in the sense that you get less and less value out of every dollar as you go up in price. There is a sweet spot where you get the most performance per dollar, and that sweet spot aint at 3gHz. Of course, you can always take your CPU up to those speeds, especially if its a C2D/Q, which are excellent overclockers.

Q8200 instead of the Q8300... what do other people think about this?

Concerning the keyboard and mouse, I'm just playing around with those. I'm looking at what I would buy regardless of the budget. I most likely will get a cheaper mouse and keyboard.

D'oh. I just realized I repeated what Genocidicbunny said... :hammer2:
 
This is a fantastic mouse http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104076 and one that I can personally recommend. There should be a wireless one if that's your thing.

Between the Q8300 and Q8200 I think you would be better off getting the cheaper 8200.

IF, however, you think you may be interested in the future overclocking you want the Q6600 which has a multiplier of x9 instead of the x7 that the former two are locked at, which is important in overclocking.
 
Newegg's user reviews don't mean a thing. Q8200 and Q8300 are practically the same except the Q8300 has a bit higher multiplier. Most of the Q8200's complaints (motherboard incompatibilities and lack of native virtualization support) would be present on the Q8300 as well. It doesn't really matter which one you choose

Virtualization by itself means running software in a virtual machine like VMware. Processors with native virtualization support get a small performance boost when doing so. In short it's something you're not going to need

L2 cache doesn't really matter. 4mb is enough
 
Does cache matter guys? (addressing other people because one person says it is and another says it isn't)

I would like to take a poll, Q8200 or Q8300 is the question.

So far it is 2-0 for Q8200 (GVBN is neutral).
 
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