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GOTM 104 Spoiler

Discussion in 'Civ2 - Game of the Month' started by Ali Ardavan, Nov 26, 2009.

  1. Ali Ardavan

    Ali Ardavan Mathematician Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    -0980 Musketeer from hut.
    -0960 Physics -> Magnetism. 2x50g from hut.
    -0940 King Richard built in science city. Domestic Hides for 42. Barbarian Knights from hut kill my None Dragoon.
    -0920 Domestic Coal, Silk for 27,39. Dragoon from hut which forces disbanding of a musketeer due to unit support.
    -0900 Magnetism -> Steam Engine. T6L4S0. Sydney and Rudsar founded.
    -0880 7 Barbarian Knights from hut. Two of them bought for 82 each and used to kill two others. The remaining ones killed in attack on my units. Sarcheshmeh founded. 8 barbarian knights from hut kill my explorer.
    -0860 Lost a dragoon to unit support. Shush founded. 50g from hut. Canberra founded.
    -0840 8 Barbarian knight s from hut attack my None Musketeer; it survives! Munich founded.
    -0820 Shushtar founded. 50g from hut.
    -0800 Domestic Silk for 21. Wool from science city to Greeks for 519. Gems to Greeks for 180. 50g from hut. T3L4S3.
    -0780 Steam Engine -> Theory of Gravity. Vancouver founded. Barbarian Knights from hut kill my diplomat. Gems to Greeks for 384. T5L4S3
    -0760 Salt to Russians for 264.
    -0740 Theory of Gravity -> Atomic Theory. Magellan built. Inadvertently entered into an alliance with Babylonians while gifting them. Dragoon from hut. Adelaid founded.
    -0720 Alberta founded. Steam Engine -> Viking -> Economics. Copper to Russians for 268. 100g from hut.
    -0700 100g from hut.
    -0680 Domestic Gems for 96. T0L4S6
    -0660 Atomic Theory -> Electricity. T1L4S5. Hides from Science city to Vikings for 630. Barbarian knights from hut kill my dragoon.
    -0640 Electricity -> Sanitation. Economics -> Babylonian -> Sanitation. Physics -> Russian -> Polytheism. Silk from science city to Sioux for 672. Florence founded.
    -0620 -> Refrigeration -> Conscription. Hides from science city to Vikings for 751. 50g from hut.
    -0600 Conscription -> Tactics. Hides from science city to Vikings for 766. Domestic Gold for 39. T2L4S4.
    -0580 Tactics -> Monotheism. Hides from science city to Vikings for 714. Gems to Babylonians for 438. Pompeii and Niagra founded.
    -0560 Engineer survives barbarian knight. Monotheism -> Amphibious Warfare. 50g from hut. Dezful founded. 2xWine to Babylonians for 445, 450.
    -0540 Amphibious Warfare -> Theology. 50g from hut. T6L4S0
    -0520 Michelangelo built. Babol founded.
    -0480 8 barbarian knights from hut kill my cavalry.
    -0460 Shakespeare built in science city. Copper to Babylonians for 671.
    -0440 Theology -> Railroad. Conscription -> Babylonian -> Railroad. Domestic Spice to science city for 120. Rifleman from hut. Windsor founded.
    -0420 Sioux build already obsolete Great Library. -> Fundamentalism. Bach built. Gold from science city to Greeks for 696. Silver to Vikings for 380.
    -0400 Fundamentalism -> Industrialization. Pyramids and Copernicus built. 2x100g from hut. Domestic Dye, Silk for 31, 116. Belfast founded.
    -0380 Copper to Sioux for 200. 50g+25g from hut. Kerman founded.
    -0320 Domestic Gold for 34. Abadan, the second port city, founded. Rifleman from hut.
    -0300 Atomic Theory -> Sioux -> Industrialization. T4L2S4. Domestic Silk, Gold for 30, 172. Rifleman from hut. Montreal, third port city, founded. Tasmania founded. 50g from hut.
    -0280 -> Corporation -> Genetic Engineering. Domestic Spice, Gems, Silk for 104, 126, 56. Sardia founded.
    -0260 Domestic Silk for 108.
    -0240 Genetic Engineering -> Refining. Domestic Silk for 72. Budapest founded.
    -0220 Domestic Silk for 96.
    -0200 Refining -> Combustion. Silver to Vikings for 405. Gold to Russians for 618. Domestic Spice to science city for 114. Domestic 2xSilk for 42, 78. 50g from hut.
    -0180 Russians build Eiffel. Combustion -> Electronics. Combustion -> Greek -> Steel. Domestic Copper for 40. 2xHides to Russians for 384, 404. Musketeer from hut disbanded due to lack of support.
    -0160 Electronics -> Machine Tools. Undemanded Silver, Hides to Russians for 146, 372. Domestic Hides, Silk for 42, 146.
    -0140 Machine Tools -> Automobile. Newton, Adam Smith, and Cure for Cancer built. Perth founded. Domestic Gold for 90. Hides, Wine to Babylonians for 400, 430. Seven Barbarian Knights from hut kill my rifleman. T3L2S5.
    -0120 Automobile -> Miniaturization. Domestic Hides for 30. Hides to Vikings for 232. Undemanded Silver to Babylonians for 424. Furcity founded.
    -0100 Miniaturization -> Mobil e Warfare. Domestic Gold for 56. Undemanded Gems , undemanded Gold to Russians for 168, 114. T0L2S8.
    -0080 Mobile Warfare -> Mass Production -> Computers. 25g from hut. Domestic Silk for 62. Wine to Russians for 260. T1L2S7
    -0060 Computers -> Nuclear Fission. Domestic Silk for 38. Silk to Vikings for 528.
    -0040 Nuclear Fission -> Nuclear Power. SETI built. Hides to Greeks for 476.
    -0020 Nuclear Power -> Robotics -> Recycling. Domestic Copper, Gems for 86, 158. Wool from Science city to Vikings for 912. New Guinea founded. Seven barbarian Cavalry from hut kill two of my units.
    +0001 Recycling -> Laser -> Flight. Ardabil founded. Wine, Coal to Sioux for 410, 520.

    Status at +0001
    Population: 13.9M; Cities: 69; Trade routes: 64D28F; Government: Democracy
    Gold: 72; Cost per turn: 82; Total advances: 73; Production: 167MT; 0 polluted tiles
    Wonders: Marco, Hanging Gardens, Colossus, Pyramids, King Richard, Michelangelo, Copernicus, Magellan, Shakespeare, Leo, Bach, Newton, Adam Smith, Cure, SETI
    Units: 39 Engineers (5 None), 3 Rifleman (1 None), 1 Cavalry, 3 Transports, 2 Diplomats, 52 Freights
    Russian: 5 cities, 51 techs; Eiffel
    Babylonian: 5 cities, 44 techs; Allied with me
    Viking: 6 cities, 45 tehcs;
    Greek: 4 cities, 53 techs;
    Sioux: 5 cities, 73 techs; Great Library
     
  2. Hexer

    Hexer Chieftain

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    I'm right now in 500BC and at future tech #20 or so. 100% tax would give me something around 5500 g/t. I'm busy with moving ~50 spies from isle to isle and city to city to get the zoom to city trick working. I just found out that I have sorted them in the wrong way. This blows...
     
  3. CharlieChuck

    CharlieChuck Chieftain

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    I finished last night, I'll post my stats at intervals

    Status at -2020
    Cities 26, govt: Monarchy
    Techs 19 researching medicene
    wonders Colossus
    6 settlers 4 warriors 1 horse 1 chariot 5 vans
    No contact with AI
     
  4. CharlieChuck

    CharlieChuck Chieftain

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    Status at -980
    Cities 55, govt: Democracy (just changed)
    Techs 35 researching gunpowder
    Shanghai SSC size 5 (30 arrows)
    wonders Colossus, marcos
    7 settlers 1 crusader 2 dips 2 caravel 19 vans
    Maps with al AI, peace with all
     
  5. CharlieChuck

    CharlieChuck Chieftain

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    Status at 1ad
    Cities 92, govt: Democracy
    Techs 61 researching nuke fission
    Shanghai SSC size 10 (57 arrows)
    wonders Colossus, marcos, copernicus, magellans, shakespeares, js bachs, isaac newton, darwins
    17 engineers 1 rifleman 1 crusader 4 galleon 4 transport 2 dips 1 van 14 freight
    Maps with al AI, peace with all , most deliveries to Ellipi


    Looks like Ali was ahead. I was getting a tech about every turn. My biggest van delivery was 1440 towards the end. I amassed about 9000 gold in time to start theh space ships, but forgot to research superconductor, which held me up about 3 more turns.
     
  6. Peaster

    Peaster Chieftain

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    First spoiler since GOTM 95 with a page 2 ! :goodjob:

    I'm not playing this one (will play #105) but am following your games a bit. Could someone save me some effort and describe the map very briefly ? Is this an Ice Planet, or just a cold starting position ? I'm guessing from your stats that you found better terrain somewhere.

    Also, I guess your main goal is to land ASAP (eg green star rather than gold ?). If you are playing for gold, I can't decide who is ahead at 1AD. Ali seems ahead in most stats, but Charlie has more cities, which can bring in lots of points.

    Belated reply to Ali about "known" maps: I think by this you mean revealed maps. I almost never play on those, just because I enjoy exploring. Yes, I can see how that would affect strategy and results. In my earlier posts, "known maps" means "replayed maps", not revealed, which is what Hexer's been doing. Since I can't remember terrain details very long, I doubt that's had much effect on my results, so these games are fairly valid experiments.
     
  7. Magic_gorter

    Magic_gorter Moderator Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    I am almost finished. A few techs before spaceship can be build...just a few turns after 1 AD. Did build my first city quickly and did not pop huts like Hexer. Should have known that for better results....

    When finished I will post my log.

    If anybody needs some extra time to finish this difficult GOTM please ask. I might give some extra time.
     
  8. Magic_gorter

    Magic_gorter Moderator Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    Peaster this is a tundra map....and a very big landmass. South is the ocean with 5 islands where the other civs have their own land.....And they are trapped in mountains (they never build a city on it and won't leave the island....
     
  9. Hexer

    Hexer Chieftain

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    Finally I have reached Alpha Centauri in 6 A.D. Managing Zoom to City with appr. 50 cities on 4 isles is a huge pain...but it worked. I "strg+n"ed the last 500 years.

    6AD stats:
    79 cities (52.750.000)
    All wonders
    Future Tech #43
     
  10. Ali Ardavan

    Ali Ardavan Mathematician Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    You have 30% more cities at +001 and you have been ahead in city count all along. I was ahead in tech count and wonder count.

    As Magic_gorter explained this is a very large map with the upper two thirds occupied by a continent made entirely from tundra with no lakes. The bottom third is an ocean with 5 islands made entirely of grassland with a size of about 10x12 each home to a rival. One more notable detail is the existence of quite large rivers in the bottom two thirds of the continent.

    What is the gold star? Do you mean blue star?

    Yes I did mean revealed maps.
     
  11. Ali Ardavan

    Ali Ardavan Mathematician Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    I have played till +0460 and definitely need more time, please.
     
  12. CharlieChuck

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    Due to the poor terrain for most of the cities, growing them past size 3 or 4 is difficult, it would take a lot of engineer turns, so like other things in this particular GOTM, normal rules don't apply for a better score. I realised a few things too late that would have improved my score...
     
  13. Magic_gorter

    Magic_gorter Moderator Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    I will give 1 week extra for the players to finish this gotm.

    Peaster was talking about the gold medal (the player with the best gotm score (not with the highest game score).
     
  14. Magic_gorter

    Magic_gorter Moderator Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    Finished the game.....so here some stats to compare. I went more for a big empire then to launch as quickly as possible. I waited to long developing my SSC and building some hapiness wonders. I guess this is the reason Charlie went ahead at 1 ad. Made a stupid mistake to launch an spaceship with only 33 structurals....instead of 39..... could have had 150 points more but this also would take another 2 turns extra...

    I will post my complete log soon.

    status at -2000
    Cities 40, govt: Monarchy
    Techs 27
    No Wonders
    10 settlers; 6 warriors; 6 legion; 1 pikeman; 5 horsemen; 2 knights; 2 diplomats; 1 van
    No contact with AI

    status at -1000
    Cities 99, govt: Republic
    Techs 41
    Shantung SSC size 4 (7 arrows) still to develop
    wonders Pyramids; Marco Polo
    27 settlers; 1 legion; 2 pikemen; 2 galleon; 4 diplomats; 9 caravans
    Maps with al AI, peace with all / Allied with Sioux

    Status at 1ad
    Cities 150, govt: Democracy
    Techs 59
    Shangtun SSC size 8 (16 arrows)
    wonders Pyramids, Collosus; Lighthouse; Marco Polo; Michelangelo's; Copernicus; Magellan's; Shakespeare; Leonardo; J.S. Bach; Isaac Newton; Darwin's Voyage
    2 settlers; 92 engineers; 1 legion; 2 musketeers; 1 dragoon; 4 transport; 42 freight
    Maps with al AI, peace with all / Allied with Sioux / Russians destroyed
     
  15. Ali Ardavan

    Ali Ardavan Mathematician Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    +0020 Flight -> Communism -> Espionage. IrishFur and Miyaanrud founded. Wine to Sioux for 320. Hides to Vikings for 230.
    +0040 Espionage -> Radio -> Advanced Flight. Spice to Russians for 336. Urumiyeh founded. Domestic Copper for 22.
    +0060 Advanced Flight -> Combined Arms. UN built. Domestic Spice, Undemanded Hides for 20, 24. Wine to Russians for 220. Rifleman from last hut. Ahvaz founded.
    +0080 Combined Arms -> Rocketry -> Space Flight. Sirjan founded. Wine to Russians for 437. Sumatra founded. Domestic Oil from science city for 517.
    +0100 Space Flight -> Plastics -> Environmentalism. First Airport built in capital. Rudpaayeh founded.
    +0120 Environmentalism -> Superconductor. Domestic undemanded Hides for 14. Galecsheep and Tabriz founded.
    +0140 Superconductor -> Fusion power -> Guerrilla warfare. Wine to Vikings for 310. T8L2S0
    +0160 Russians build Sun Tzu. Zabol founded. Gold to Greeks for 136. Silk, Coal to Vikings for 248, 194.
    +0180 Domestic Wool, Dye, 2xUranium for 56, 51, 70, 328. Wool to Greeks for 160. Gold to Vikings for 212.
    +0200 Guerrilla Warfare -> Future Tech 1. Wine to Viking for 454. Domestic 2xDye for 31, 124. Silk, Wool to Babylonians for 340, 584. Wine to Russians for 207. Barbarian Cavlary bought for 132. T7L2S1
    +0220 Future Tech 1 -> 2. Silk to Russians for 148. Silk to Sioux for 528. T8L2S0
    +0240 Domestic Silk for 36.
    +0280 Saari founded.
    +0300 Misisauga and Zahedan founded. Domestic Gold for 128. Silk to Vikings for 496.
    +0320 Future Tech 2 -> Labor Union. Apollo built.
    +0340 Space race starts with a module. Domestic Silver for 58.
    +0360 Spahan founded.
    +0380 Hoover dam built. Domestic Uranium, Silver for 125, 80. Domestic undemanded salt from science city for 164. Philipines founded. Rush built some shields and converted a space module to snatch Darwin from Babylonians. T6L2S2.
    +0400 Labor Union -> Future Tech 3 -> 4 -> Stealth. Darwin built. T8L2S0. Domestic Uranium for 267. Java founded.
    +0420 Shiraz and Ganjeh founded. Domestic Oil to science city for 160.
    +0440 Domestic Oil to science city for 284. Domestic Gems for 32.
    +0460 Silk to Vikings for 324.
    +0480 Wine to Russians for 417. T0L2S8
    +0500 Stealth -> Future Tech 5 -> 6 -> 7. 4xWool to Vikings for 572, 320, 352, 1188.

    Status at +0500
    Population: 22.5M; Cities: 87; Trade routes: 101D48F; Government: Democracy
    Gold: 421; Cost per turn: 253; Total advances: 88+6FT; Production: 252MT; 0 polluted tiles
    Wonders: Marco, Hanging Gardens, Colossus, Pyramids, King Richard, Michelangelo, Copernicus, Magellan, Shakespeare, Leo, Bach, Newton, Adam Smith, Darwin, Cure, SETI, Hoover dam, UN, Apollo
    Units: 45 Engineers (5 None), 1 None Rifleman, 3 Transports, 2 Diplomats, 41 Freights
    Russian: 5 cities, 81 techs; Eiffel, Sun Tzu
    Babylonian: 6 cities, 80 techs; Allied with me
    Viking: 6 cities, 56 tehcs;
    Greek: 4 cities, 65 techs;
    Sioux: 5 cities, 85 techs; Great Library
     
  16. Ali Ardavan

    Ali Ardavan Mathematician Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    Wow! How did you manage 40 cities by -2000? I thought Charlie Chuck's 26 was impressive.
     
  17. Magic_gorter

    Magic_gorter Moderator Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    I have to check this, but I guess I had some nomads from huts and some settlers bought with extra cash from the huts. The first part of my game was a lot of hut popping...hoping for some nice techs or nomads. I did pop to long huts because I had some trouble with barbarians. I should have known better...and could have a better result.

    Edit: I checked my log and I had indeed some nomads which boosted my number of cities
     
  18. Magic_gorter

    Magic_gorter Moderator Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    And here is my log:

    turn year
    1 4000 BC
    2 3980 BC Beijing
    3 3960 BC
    4 3940 BC
    5 3920 BC
    6 3900 BC
    7 3880 BC start ceremonial burial
    8 3860 BC hut->archer
    9 3840 BC
    10 3820 BC hut->horseback riding
    11 3800 BC
    12 3780 BC
    13 3760 BC
    14 3740 BC
    15 3720 BC
    16 3700 BC
    17 3680 BC
    18 3660 BC warrior code
    19 3640 BC
    20 3620 BC hut->nomad
    21 3600 BC
    22 3580 BC
    23 3560 BC
    24 3540 BC hut->Pottery
    25 3520 BC
    26 3500 BC hut->100g
    27 3480 BC
    28 3460 BC hut->nomads
    29 3440 BC
    30 3420 BC
    31 3400 BC
    32 3380 BC
    33 3360 BC
    34 3340 BC hut->Chariot
    35 3320 BC Ceremonial Burial->Alphabet / hut->50g
    36 3300 BC hut->horsemen
    37 3280 BC Nanking / hut->Tsingtao
    38 3260 BC hut->100g
    39 3240 BC
    40 3220 BC
    41 3200 BC hut->Polytheism
    42 3180 BC hut->180g
    43 3160 BC
    44 3140 BC
    45 3120 BC hut->The Wheel
    46 3100 BC
    47 3080 BC
    48 3060 BC Xinjian / hut->Masonry
    49 3040 BC >0,1M / Chengdu / hut->Alphabet
    50 3020 BC start Bronze Working
    51 3000 BC Hangchow
    52 2980 BC
    53 2960 BC Tientsin + Tatung / huts->Writing+Mathematics
    54 2940 BC
    55 2920 BC hut->Code of Laws
    56 2900 BC Macao
    57 2880 BC Anyang
    58 2860 BC >0,2M
    59 2840 BC
    60 2820 BC Shantung
    61 2800 BC hut->Monarchy
    62 2780 BC
    63 2760 BC
    64 2740 BC MONARCHY / 0,3M / Bronze Working / Chinan
    65 2720 BC start learning Currency / Kaifeng
    66 2700 BC hut->Mysticism
    67 2680 BC
    68 2660 BC hut->Iron Working
    69 2640 BC hut->Astronomy / Ningpo
    70 2620 BC Paoting + Yangchow+Naples
    71 2600 BC >0,4M
    72 2580 BC >0,5M + Issus / hut->Currency
    73 2560 BC start Map Making
    74 2540 BC hut->Map Making
    75 2520 BC start learning Trade / >0,6M / hut->Feudalism
    76 2500 BC Cunaxa+Cremona+Cannae+Capua / hut->Literacy
    77 2480 BC Turin
    78 2460 BC
    79 2440 BC
    80 2420 BC hut->Chivalry + The Republic
    81 2400 BC Genoa
    82 2380 BC >0,7M
    83 2360 BC hut->Philosophy / Crete
    84 2340 BC discovered Trade->Seafaring / Verona
    85 2320 BC >0,8M / Salamis / hut->Seafaring
    86 2300 BC start learning Monotheism / >0,9M / hut->Medicine
    87 2280 BC Lisbon
    88 2260 BC >1M / Hamburg
    89 2240 BC Prague+Salzburg
    90 2220 BC
    91 2200 BC
    92 2180 BC hut->Construction / Bergen
    93 2160 BC
    94 2140 BC Venice
    95 2120 BC
    96 2100 BC
    97 2080 BC
    98 2060 BC
    99 2040 BC Milan+Ghent+Pisa+Dublin
    100 2020 BC Toronto+Melbourne+Sydney
    101 2000 BC
    102 1980 BC Beijing
    103 1960 BC Shanghai
    104 1940 BC REPUBLIC / Canton / hut->University
    105 1920 BC Marco Polo build / Nanking
    106 1900 BC Monotheism->Bridge Building / Tsingtao+Xinjian
    107 1880 BC Chengdu
    108 1860 BC
    109 1840 BC hut->Engineering+Banking
    110 1820 BC hut->Navigation
    111 1800 BC Hangchow+Tientsin
    112 1780 BC >2M / Tatung+Macao
    113 1760 BC Bridge Building->Sanitation / Anyang
    114 1740 BC
    115 1720 BC Shantung+Chinan
    116 1700 BC Kaifeng
    117 1680 BC Ningpo
    118 1660 BC Paoting
    119 1640 BC Pyramids build / hut->Chemistry / Yangchow
    120 1620 BC
    121 1600 BC Sanitation->Physics / Naples+Issus+Cunaxa
    122 1580 BC Cremona+Cannae
    123 1560 BC
    124 1540 BC
    125 1520 BC hut->Economics / Capua
    126 1500 BC
    127 1480 BC Physics->Magnetism / Turin+Genoa
    128 1460 BC Crete
    129 1440 BC >3M
    130 1420 BC
    131 1400 BC Verona
    132 1380 BC
    133 1360 BC Magnetism->Theology
    134 1340 BC Salamis
    135 1320 BC
    136 1300 BC Lisbon+Hamburg+Prague
    137 1280 BC Salzburg
    138 1260 BC Theology->Theory of Gravity
    139 1240 BC Bergen+Venice
    140 1220 BC >4M / Milan
    141 1200 BC Ghent+Pisa / first caravan delivery 32g
    142 1180 BC
    143 1160 BC Dublin+Toronto
    144 1140 BC Melbourne+Sydney+Beijing
    145 1120 BC Shanghai
    146 1100 BC Theory of Gravity->Atomic Theory / Canton+Nanking
    147 1080 BC Tsingtao
    148 1060 BC Xinjian+Chengdu / hut->Atomic Theory
    149 1040 BC start learning Invention / Hangchow+Tientsin+Tatung+Macao
    150 1020 BC Anyang
    151 1000 BC Shantung+Chinan+Kaifeng
    152 980 BC Invention->Democracy / >5M
    153 960 BC Ningpo
    154 940 BC
    155 920 BC Paoting
    156 900 BC
    157 880 BC Yangchow+Naples
    158 860 BC Issus+Cunaxa
    159 840 BC Cremona+Cannae
    160 820 BC Democracy->Steam Engine / DEMOCRACY / Capua
    161 800 BC Turin
    162 780 BC >6M
    163 760 BC Genoa
    164 740 BC Steam Engine->Gunpowder / Crete / hides to Moscow 112g
    165 720 BC bribed St. Petersburg
    166 700 BC
    167 680 BC Verona
    168 660 BC Salamis
    169 640 BC
    170 620 BC Gunpowder->Explosives / J.S. Bach build
    171 600 BC >7M / Lisbon
    172 580 BC
    173 560 BC Explosives->Railroad / silk to Wounded Knee (324g+58g)/Hamburg
    174 540 BC >8M / Prague+Salzburg+Bergen
    175 520 BC
    176 500 BC Railroad->Industrialization / Venice+Milan+Ghent+Pisa / Leonardo's
    177 480 BC Dublin+Toronto
    178 460 BC Melbourne
    179 440 BC Industrialization->Metallurgy / >9M / Sydney+Beijing / wine to Little Bighorn (277g) + copper (257g)
    180 420 BC Metallurgy->The Corportation / Shanghai
    181 400 BC Canton+Nanking
    182 380 BC Michelangelo's build / Tsingtao
    183 360 BC Xinjian
    184 340 BC The Corporation->Electricity / >10M / hides to Trondheim (212g)
    185 320 BC Chengdu
    186 300 BC
    187 280 BC Electricity->Genetic Engineering->Leadership->Steel / Darwin's build / >11M
    188 260 BC
    189 240 BC
    190 220 BC Steel->Electronics
    191 200 BC Electronics->Refining / Shakespeare's build
    192 180 BC Hangchow+Tientsin
    193 160 BC >12M
    194 140 BC Refining->Combustion / Tatung+Macao
    195 120 BC capture Moscow (Magellan's+261g+Lighthouse
    196 100 BC Copernicus build
    197 80 BC Combustion->Automobile / bribed Minsk (177g+Colossus)
    198 60 BC >13M / bribed Kiev (223g)
    199 40 BC bribed Odessa / Anyang+Shantung+Chinan
    200 20 BC Automobile->Mass Production / Kaifeng+Ningpo / bribed Smolensk (destroyed Russians)/ Paoting+Yangchow
    201 1 AD Mass Production->Conscription / Isaac Newton build / >14M
    202 20 AD Naples / hides (360g)+dye (228g)
    203 40 AD Conscription->Tactics / Issus+Cunaxa / gems (360g)+hides (220g)
    204 60 AD Tactics->Nuclear Fission / >15M / hides (244g)
    205 80 AD Nuclear Fission->Machine Tools / hides (276g) + dye (268g)
    206 100 AD Machine Tools->Nuclear Power / Cure for Cancer build / Cremona
    207 120 AD Cannae
    208 140 AD Nuclear Power->Miniaturization / >17M / Capua / dye 180g+300g + copper 164g
    209 160 AD Miniaturization->Computers / >18M\
    210 180 AD Computers->The Laser / >19M
    211 200 AD
    212 220 AD >20M / silk 360g + copper 192g + coal 295g
    213 240 AD The laser->Flight / Seti Program build / silver 550g
    214 260 AD Flight->Refrigeration / Turin
    215 280 AD Refrigeration->Radio / >21M / Genoa
    216 300 AD Radio->Advanced Flight / Crete
    217 320 AD Advanced Flight->Rocketry / >22M
    218 340 AD Rocketry->Amphibious Warfare / wine 300g
    219 360 AD Amphibious Warfare->Space Flight / hides 227g+248g+232g / get Communism from Babylonians
    220 380 AD Space Flight->Plastics / Verona
    221 400 AD Plastics->Espionage / Apollo Program build / >23M
    222 420 AD Espionage->Superconductor
    223 440 AD Salamis
    224 460 AD Superconductor->Fusion Power / >24M / Lisbon
    225 480 AD
    226 500 AD
    227 520 AD Fusion Power->Guerilla Warfare
    228 540 AD Hamburg
    229 560 AD >25M
    230 580 AD Prague
    231 600 AD Salzburg
    232 620 AD Bergen
    233 640 AD >26M
    234 660 AD Guerilla Warfare->Recycling
    235 680 AD Recycling->FT1 / >28M / launched spaceship
    236 681 AD >29M
    237 682 AD >31M / Milan
    238 683 AD >32M
    239 684 AD FT1->Environmentalism / >34M / Ghent
    240 685 AD >35M / captured Babylon (Hanging Gardens) / Pisa
    241 686 AD Environmentalism->Mobile Warfare / >37M
    242 687 AD >38M / bribed Ashur
    243 688 AD >40M / Toronto
    244 689 AD >42M / bribed Ur+Ellipi / Babylonians destroyed
    245 690 AD Oracle build / >44M / Melbourne+Sydney+Beijing+Shanghai+Canton+Nanking+Tsingtao+Xinjian+Chengdu+Hangchow+Tientsin+more cities
    246 691 AD landed
     
  19. Ali Ardavan

    Ali Ardavan Mathematician Moderator Civ2 GOTM Staff

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    +0520 Future Tech 7 -> 8 -> 9. Silk to Vikings for 404. Domestic Silver for 18. Ramsar founded. T2L2S6.
    +0540 Future Tech 9 -> 10 -> 11. Copper to Greeks for 96. Domestic Gold for 78. Wine to Sioux for 920.
    +0560 Future Tech 11 -> 12 -> 13. Domestic Dye, undemanded Oil for 48, 68.
    +0580 Future Tech 13 -> 14. Domestic Gold, Uranium, undemanded salt for 444, 347, 87. Kabol founded.
    +0600 Future Tech 14 -> 15. Pasargad founded.
    +0620 Future Tech 15 -> 16 -> 17. Wine, Coal, Silk to Babylonians for 455, 270, 288. Domestic Uranium, Copper, 2xWool for 118, 42, 42, 47. Sistan founded.
    +0640 Future Tech 17 -> 18 -> 19. Beads to Vikings for 102. Domestic Wine for 32.
    +0660 Russians build Suffrage. Future Tech 19 -> 20. Domestic undemanded Oil, Spice for 14, 34. Khorramshahr founded.
    +0680 Future Tech 20 -> 21. 2xWine to Sioux for 240, 170.
    +0700 Future Tech 21 -> 22. Wool to Greeks from science city for 1260. Wool to Greeks for 254.
    +0720 Future Tech 22 -> 23 -> 24. Wool, Coal, undemanded Beads to Greeks for 232, 434, 83. Domestic Copper for 47. Baluchestan founded.
    +0740 Future Tech 24 -> 25. Shaahi and Iceland founded.
    +0760 Future Tech 25 -> 26. Amirkola founded.
    +0780 Future Tech 26 -> 27. Domestic Silver for 64. Auburn founded.
    +0800 Future Tech 27 -> 28. Domestic Beads, Wool, Wine, Spice, undemanded Oil for 82, 64, 42, 296, 105. Gold, Wool, 2xSilk, undemanded Wine to Vikings for 184, 488, 452, 786, 215. Bologna founded.
    +0820 Future Tech 28 -> 29. Sardis founded.
    +0840 Babylonians build Manhattan. Vikings join the space race with a single structural. Future Tech 29 -> 30 -> 31. Domestic Spice, Dye, Wine for 168, 110, 143.
    +0860 Future Tech 31 -> 32. Domestic Wine for 27. 2xSilk, undemanded Wine to Russians for 540, 1824, 232. Wazirestan founded.
    +0880 Future Tech 32 -> 33. Domestic Spice, Dye for 224, 112. Gems to Babylonians for 428. Sidon founded.
    +0900 Future Tech 33 -> 34 -> 35. Laar founded.
    +0920 Future Tech 35 -> 36. Space ship launched due to arrive in 931. Domestic Dye, Oil, undemanded Hides for 47, 636, 163.
    +0921 Future Tech 36 -> 37.
    +0922 Future Tech 37 -> 38. Mishaan founded. Undemanded Oil for 27.
    +0923 Future Tech 38 -> 39. First pollution appears near science city. Domestic Copper, 2xwool, Wine, undemanded Hides for 46, 39, 31, 185, 102. Quetta founded.
    +0924 Future Tech 39 -> 40. Gold, Wool to Greeks for 424, 382. Domestic Wool for 79. Marv founded.
    +0925 Future Tech 40 -> 41. Domestic 2xWine, Wool, undemanded Oil for 47, 77, 31, 56. Balkh and Khoy founded.
    +0926 Sioux want me to join in their fight against Russians. I refuse. Vikings sneak attack and kill my freight. Future Tech 41 -> 42. Ecbatan, Kelardasht, and Shervan founded. Domestic Silk, 2xWine for 266, 205, 44.
    +0927 Greeks and Sioux join the space race. Future Tech 42 -> 43. Domestic Copper for 78. Silk to Russians for 148. Qandahar, Borneo, Heart, Brujerd, Khorramabad founded.
    +0928 Russians and Babylonians join the space race. Now everyone is in the race. Future Tech 43 -> 44. Peshawar, BoyerAhmad, Saskachuan, Gordium founded. Domestic Copper, undemanded Hides for 31, 54.
    +0929 Sioux attack and kill my freight. Oracle built. Future Tech 44 -> 45. Malta, Shanjan, Karachi founded. Domestic Silk,Oil, for 70, 203. Domestic undemanded commodities for 16, 26, 8, 13, 3, 80, 18, 14, 96. Endgame1-2 founded.
    +0930 Future Tech 45 -> 46. Lighthouse, Statue of Liberty, and Great Wall built. Nayin founded. Endgame3-5 founded. Domestic Silk, Gems for 42, 32. T0L10S0
    +0931 Spaceship arrives.
     
  20. Marlos

    Marlos Christian Soldier

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    When/where will we see results?
     

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