Agni Neres
Master of RiverSerpent
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Agni Neres
Master of RiverSerpent
GOTM 73: Japanese, King, 75 x 120, 7 civs, Raging Hordes. 520 Turn Game. Starting tech BW, WC, IW. Hut; Forest and Whale visible -- possible to build settler w/o losing citizen.
Opening thoughts: Pop hut as 1st move. Set tax 60% to RB Settler before city grows. Raging hordes suggests PHX to defend each city, a little closer placement and some horses for chasing down leaders. King level is like a free Temple -- a direct run to Republic can be tried but none of the starting techs support that. City blessed with many shield grass, can evolve to SSC, Wonderville, or even settler factory.
Day 1: Sunday Feb 18, 2007
4000 HUT--> ALPH. Would greatly prefer a horse. Now we're behind.
Tax set to 60 %
3950 Kyoto Founded. Citizen works Whale, Prod=Settlers. Research = CB
3600 Worker moved from whale to forest.
3400 RB Settler; worker to Whale, tax to 40 %.
3350 Settler produced, Warriors Next.
3300 Kyoto size 2
3250 1st warriors produced. Prod = Settlers
3100 Osaka founded. A slip of the mouse cost 2 turns
3050 CB-->CoL
3000 HUT--> 50g. Used to IRB Kyoto Settlers. They will build a few roads enroute new site.
2600 RB Phx in Kyoto. Warriors are off exploring.
2550 Phx defending Kyoto, settlers next. Edo founded on river.
2500 CoL-->MON
2350 HUT--> 1 Barb Horse
2250 PRB Phx for Edo.
2200 HUT-->50g. RB Edo's Phx and Osaka's Settlers.
2050 MON-->Writing. REVOLUTION.
1950 HUT-->1 barb horse.
1850 Monarchy formed. Obviously messed up the Oedo year for the switch. Not happy with this opening, too many mistakes. Kyoto Phx sent to defend settlers from barb horse. Kagoshima founded.
1800 HUT-->WRI. That's what we were working on. Select Lit, aiming for Phil.
1700 IRB settlers in Osaka. Kyoto begins wonder pre-build.
1450 HUT-->Horseman, assigned None
1350 LIT--> MYST. City of Nara founded
1300 Nagoya founded. Horse spots a road -- we're not alone after all!
1250 Horse finds French city of Rhiems. We decline peace and they ignore our feeble threat for tribute.
1200 French warriors kill our horse. Well, we know where they are now.
950 French chariot kills our exploring Warriors. What a game
Izumo founded.
925 Nagasaki founded.
825 IRB Diplomat in Nagasaki.
750 WHEW. French nearly raze Nagasaki. We defeat one horse and bribe another, then kill their warrior. PHIL-->freebee MAS-->CURR. Kyoto Wonder Prod changed to Great Wall. City of Shimonoseki.
700 Decline Cease-Fire with French. War continues. 2 Phx in Nagasaki now.
525 CURR-->TRADE
500 IRB Legion in Nagasaki. French are pesky today!
475 Our Legion loses vs. French Phalanx.
450 French warriors kill our wounded phalanx.
375 French trireme unloads chariot at Nagasaki. Not enough gold for bribe.
350 Our phalanx holds out. City would have vanished if we lost.
325 We refuse French Cease-fire request. War continues.
300 TRA-->MAPS. All Settler production changed to Caravans.
250 Barracks in Nagasaki. Legion Next.
175 Two French Catapults approach, can't be bribed. RB Great Wall in Kyoto. IRB Legion in Nagasaki.
150 Legion takes out catapults. We're looking good now with Gr Wall and Vet Legion.
100 French city of Marseilles discovered. Purple trireme spotted. 4th caravan arrives Kyoto for Marco Polo.
50 We use Marco to get all available techs and maps. No Chinese map as they don't have map tech. Celts have the best homeland, English the worst. We don't bother with the French as we want them by force. Cities:
Celts 8, French 4, Spanish 4, Chinese 5, English 4, Mongols 5, Japanese 14.
+ 10 Quit for awhile. 14 cities in Monarchy, Taxes 4.6.0 17-1, 12 turns. 18 Techs. Empire connected by roads. Two Wonders; caravans in Production. We are researaching FEUD and will take the Sun-Tzu. Then we will build some Marketplaces, get the Republic and switch over.
Opening thoughts: Pop hut as 1st move. Set tax 60% to RB Settler before city grows. Raging hordes suggests PHX to defend each city, a little closer placement and some horses for chasing down leaders. King level is like a free Temple -- a direct run to Republic can be tried but none of the starting techs support that. City blessed with many shield grass, can evolve to SSC, Wonderville, or even settler factory.
Day 1: Sunday Feb 18, 2007
4000 HUT--> ALPH. Would greatly prefer a horse. Now we're behind.
Tax set to 60 %
3950 Kyoto Founded. Citizen works Whale, Prod=Settlers. Research = CB
3600 Worker moved from whale to forest.
3400 RB Settler; worker to Whale, tax to 40 %.
3350 Settler produced, Warriors Next.
3300 Kyoto size 2
3250 1st warriors produced. Prod = Settlers
3100 Osaka founded. A slip of the mouse cost 2 turns
3050 CB-->CoL
3000 HUT--> 50g. Used to IRB Kyoto Settlers. They will build a few roads enroute new site.
2600 RB Phx in Kyoto. Warriors are off exploring.
2550 Phx defending Kyoto, settlers next. Edo founded on river.
2500 CoL-->MON
2350 HUT--> 1 Barb Horse
2250 PRB Phx for Edo.
2200 HUT-->50g. RB Edo's Phx and Osaka's Settlers.
2050 MON-->Writing. REVOLUTION.
1950 HUT-->1 barb horse.
1850 Monarchy formed. Obviously messed up the Oedo year for the switch. Not happy with this opening, too many mistakes. Kyoto Phx sent to defend settlers from barb horse. Kagoshima founded.
1800 HUT-->WRI. That's what we were working on. Select Lit, aiming for Phil.
1700 IRB settlers in Osaka. Kyoto begins wonder pre-build.
1450 HUT-->Horseman, assigned None
1350 LIT--> MYST. City of Nara founded
1300 Nagoya founded. Horse spots a road -- we're not alone after all!
1250 Horse finds French city of Rhiems. We decline peace and they ignore our feeble threat for tribute.
1200 French warriors kill our horse. Well, we know where they are now.
950 French chariot kills our exploring Warriors. What a game
Izumo founded.925 Nagasaki founded.
825 IRB Diplomat in Nagasaki.
750 WHEW. French nearly raze Nagasaki. We defeat one horse and bribe another, then kill their warrior. PHIL-->freebee MAS-->CURR. Kyoto Wonder Prod changed to Great Wall. City of Shimonoseki.
700 Decline Cease-Fire with French. War continues. 2 Phx in Nagasaki now.
525 CURR-->TRADE
500 IRB Legion in Nagasaki. French are pesky today!
475 Our Legion loses vs. French Phalanx.
450 French warriors kill our wounded phalanx.
375 French trireme unloads chariot at Nagasaki. Not enough gold for bribe.
350 Our phalanx holds out. City would have vanished if we lost.
325 We refuse French Cease-fire request. War continues.
300 TRA-->MAPS. All Settler production changed to Caravans.
250 Barracks in Nagasaki. Legion Next.
175 Two French Catapults approach, can't be bribed. RB Great Wall in Kyoto. IRB Legion in Nagasaki.
150 Legion takes out catapults. We're looking good now with Gr Wall and Vet Legion.
100 French city of Marseilles discovered. Purple trireme spotted. 4th caravan arrives Kyoto for Marco Polo.
50 We use Marco to get all available techs and maps. No Chinese map as they don't have map tech. Celts have the best homeland, English the worst. We don't bother with the French as we want them by force. Cities:
Celts 8, French 4, Spanish 4, Chinese 5, English 4, Mongols 5, Japanese 14.
+ 10 Quit for awhile. 14 cities in Monarchy, Taxes 4.6.0 17-1, 12 turns. 18 Techs. Empire connected by roads. Two Wonders; caravans in Production. We are researaching FEUD and will take the Sun-Tzu. Then we will build some Marketplaces, get the Republic and switch over.
We are researaching FEUD and will take the Sun-Tzu. Then we will build some Marketplaces, get the Republic and switch over.
I never liked Republic. I meen, if you are planning to make a great army with Crusaders & Sun-Tza academy, is Republic the best goverment?, with the 1 shield per unit & people angered because of troops away from home?
I never liked Republic. I meen, if you are planning to make a great army with Crusaders & Sun-Tza academy, is Republic the best goverment?, with the 1 shield per unit & people angered because of troops away from home?
Agni Neres
Master of RiverSerpent
Thought about my game today. Lots of Options:
Modern Key Civ Theory suggests gifting all tech to the Mongols, but its counter-intuitive. And they are right next door. I try it out, Research cost drops from 360 to 240 beakers. (12 turns down to 8 turns)
Trading theory would have lots of boats (boat-chains) and start vanning the AI distant cities. Lighthouse and Magellan look useful. We can take Lighthouse if we want it.
Expansion theory would have Pike + Settlers colonizing islands. With Gr Wall in hand, cities would have a great shot at surviving. We'll have Feud soon.
None of these make the Republic look appealing just yet. But there is danger getting too settled into Monarchy -- too slow on the tech.
Taking out the French will be a priority. Once they are gone we will continue settling the home continent.
Modern Key Civ Theory suggests gifting all tech to the Mongols, but its counter-intuitive. And they are right next door. I try it out, Research cost drops from 360 to 240 beakers. (12 turns down to 8 turns)
Trading theory would have lots of boats (boat-chains) and start vanning the AI distant cities. Lighthouse and Magellan look useful. We can take Lighthouse if we want it.
Expansion theory would have Pike + Settlers colonizing islands. With Gr Wall in hand, cities would have a great shot at surviving. We'll have Feud soon.
None of these make the Republic look appealing just yet. But there is danger getting too settled into Monarchy -- too slow on the tech.
Taking out the French will be a priority. Once they are gone we will continue settling the home continent.
Most players who play early conquest stay in Monarchy for the reason you just mentioned. There are also people who like to play power democracy. With that style you try to stay in democracy and earn lot's of money with trade and taxes, a lot of cities and when at war easily can make a big army. to kill the AI-civ.
Now that i have read a lot of posts, i realize that i always play almost the same way, making the Statue of Liberty whenever i reach Democracy, and changing from Monarchy to Communism. Trying a mix of teching & making war. Next time ill try to make something different
Agni Neres
Master of RiverSerpent
GOTM 73, Day 2, Feb 21
Well, we will try to do it all. Settlers will be sent to colonize north side of Mongol Island, to make a path for vans to the Celts. French, we will try to take by force but without breaking word.
+ 30 We accept 200g for cease-fire with French; no peace treaty tho. Caravans arrive Satsuma for Lighthouse. We use some funds to IRB 2 Triremes. Neither one comes out Veteran.
Note French have just discovered PT -- expect elephant sneak attack soon.
50 FEUD-->SEA. Heading for Nav and Magellan.
60 1st CD in Izumo. Caravan changed to Horseman. Elvis for a turn. French elephant heading our way - expels our dip. They offer peace--rejected. Demand for tribute ignored. Trying to keep Spotless.
80 French catapult approach. Demand for tribute ignored but have them down to Icy. Caravans to Kyoto for Sun-Tzu which completes next turn.
90 Bribe French catapult. Legions land near Rhiems. Demand tribute--nothing. Settlers arrive on Mongol Island--on wrong square! Mongol horse present but relations are Enthusiastic so should be OK, but we can't get to preferred site.
110 Barbs land on Mongol Island--our settler will almost surely die. French--12g tribute. Can't get them to break treaty.
120 Settler dances away -- maybe can save with trireme? French 12g tribute.
130 Finally! French steal Literacy, War declared! Dip and Cat lost to elephant but Legions take Lyon--> PT. IRB Elephant in Nagasaki
140 GOD I AM DUMB. Left Lyon unguarded, taken by French warrior. My Legion (rehomed) gone; other Legion razes city. CRAP. 5 years of Rusty playing here.
150 Marseilles captured -->WHEEL. Trireme saves Settlers from Mongol Isle!
170 Another mouse slip costs me a Pikeman (attacks Fr Settlers by mistake and loses)
190 Barb Legions near our capital. War continues.
200 Orleans taken -- only Paris remains. And its working on Gr Library
Barbs die easily.
210 Caravan pops HUT-->Settlers on an Island. Need to move off forest, will build next turn.
Marco used to trade some techs and maps. Have Chinese map now. Troops on Paris doorstep. We made two cities on Mongol Isle so far and have 3 triremes enroute foreign lands.
220 Paris taken; a city called Chartes to find now. Have a few CD and notice tech is 17 turns.
250 FRENCH DESTROYED. ONE OBJECTIVE ACCOMPLISHED. Viking Settler somewhere, sayeth Marco. 1st Caravan delivered to Madrid. Boat nears Celts, demand has changed! No city demands goods on that boat! More CD as we skipped Temples (due to King level) and dont have MONO yet. Gift several tech to Mongols to get them back to Enthusiastic. But not Feud. Some to Spanish also - they are not my key civ but tech time dropped 1 turn
Quit for the night. 24 techs, Republic coming soon. 23 cities, 3.7.0 12 turns. Pop 1.68 M. 397g to spend soon, not sure exactly what just now. 5 active triremes + some in production -- if change to Republic will need to watch home city to not lose any (especially loaded!) All civs ex Viking Enthusiastic. We are Supreme and Spotless.
Well, we will try to do it all. Settlers will be sent to colonize north side of Mongol Island, to make a path for vans to the Celts. French, we will try to take by force but without breaking word.
+ 30 We accept 200g for cease-fire with French; no peace treaty tho. Caravans arrive Satsuma for Lighthouse. We use some funds to IRB 2 Triremes. Neither one comes out Veteran.
Note French have just discovered PT -- expect elephant sneak attack soon.
50 FEUD-->SEA. Heading for Nav and Magellan.
60 1st CD in Izumo. Caravan changed to Horseman. Elvis for a turn. French elephant heading our way - expels our dip. They offer peace--rejected. Demand for tribute ignored. Trying to keep Spotless.
80 French catapult approach. Demand for tribute ignored but have them down to Icy. Caravans to Kyoto for Sun-Tzu which completes next turn.
90 Bribe French catapult. Legions land near Rhiems. Demand tribute--nothing. Settlers arrive on Mongol Island--on wrong square! Mongol horse present but relations are Enthusiastic so should be OK, but we can't get to preferred site.
110 Barbs land on Mongol Island--our settler will almost surely die. French--12g tribute. Can't get them to break treaty.
120 Settler dances away -- maybe can save with trireme? French 12g tribute.
130 Finally! French steal Literacy, War declared! Dip and Cat lost to elephant but Legions take Lyon--> PT. IRB Elephant in Nagasaki
140 GOD I AM DUMB. Left Lyon unguarded, taken by French warrior. My Legion (rehomed) gone; other Legion razes city. CRAP. 5 years of Rusty playing here.
150 Marseilles captured -->WHEEL. Trireme saves Settlers from Mongol Isle!
170 Another mouse slip costs me a Pikeman (attacks Fr Settlers by mistake and loses)
190 Barb Legions near our capital. War continues.
200 Orleans taken -- only Paris remains. And its working on Gr Library
Barbs die easily.210 Caravan pops HUT-->Settlers on an Island. Need to move off forest, will build next turn.
Marco used to trade some techs and maps. Have Chinese map now. Troops on Paris doorstep. We made two cities on Mongol Isle so far and have 3 triremes enroute foreign lands.
220 Paris taken; a city called Chartes to find now. Have a few CD and notice tech is 17 turns.
250 FRENCH DESTROYED. ONE OBJECTIVE ACCOMPLISHED. Viking Settler somewhere, sayeth Marco. 1st Caravan delivered to Madrid. Boat nears Celts, demand has changed! No city demands goods on that boat! More CD as we skipped Temples (due to King level) and dont have MONO yet. Gift several tech to Mongols to get them back to Enthusiastic. But not Feud. Some to Spanish also - they are not my key civ but tech time dropped 1 turn
Quit for the night. 24 techs, Republic coming soon. 23 cities, 3.7.0 12 turns. Pop 1.68 M. 397g to spend soon, not sure exactly what just now. 5 active triremes + some in production -- if change to Republic will need to watch home city to not lose any (especially loaded!) All civs ex Viking Enthusiastic. We are Supreme and Spotless.
Agni Neres
Master of RiverSerpent
All,
Reading thru the various forums I see a lot of v2.4.2 notes. I am using v2.7.8. Is this a problem? Should I have some type of different expectations? What's different between them? Thanks.
Agni.
Reading thru the various forums I see a lot of v2.4.2 notes. I am using v2.7.8. Is this a problem? Should I have some type of different expectations? What's different between them? Thanks.
Agni.
2.42 is 'Classic'
2.7.8l is the 'Fantastic Worlds'
5.4.0f if "Multi-Player Gold'
The difference between the first two are fairly minor (IIRC)
The third version has a much more aggressive AI; their attitudes can change from the highest level to the lowest in one turn.
The lower versions cannot load games saved using the higher versions.
I myself tend to play using 2.7.8, since it has the more 'normal' AI attitudes and seems to be a bit less buggy than 2.42.
You can use any of the versions of the game to play and submit your games for the GOTM.
2.7.8l is the 'Fantastic Worlds'
5.4.0f if "Multi-Player Gold'
The difference between the first two are fairly minor (IIRC)
The third version has a much more aggressive AI; their attitudes can change from the highest level to the lowest in one turn.
The lower versions cannot load games saved using the higher versions.
I myself tend to play using 2.7.8, since it has the more 'normal' AI attitudes and seems to be a bit less buggy than 2.42.
You can use any of the versions of the game to play and submit your games for the GOTM.
CharlieChuck
Prince
Hello to everyone
I've been playing civ2 off and on for years (since it first came out on ps1, and then pc version for last 6 years). I still keep coming back to it. This is my first GOTM, and last night I finished by conquering all nations. Funnily enough I think this is the first time I've finished that way instead of spaceship.
Those pesky french lost me years of expansion, after which I was going for spaceship, but changed my mind late on in the game and went for conquest, so I'm sure my score will be one of the lowest. Still I had fun which is the main thing and I'm looking forward to seeing other people's saves and comparing to mine.
Anyway, i have a question, does the last save have to be the end of the turn the game ends on, or the start of the turn? I saved it about half way through that turn, does it matter?
I've been playing civ2 off and on for years (since it first came out on ps1, and then pc version for last 6 years). I still keep coming back to it. This is my first GOTM, and last night I finished by conquering all nations. Funnily enough I think this is the first time I've finished that way instead of spaceship.
Those pesky french lost me years of expansion, after which I was going for spaceship, but changed my mind late on in the game and went for conquest, so I'm sure my score will be one of the lowest. Still I had fun which is the main thing and I'm looking forward to seeing other people's saves and comparing to mine.
Anyway, i have a question, does the last save have to be the end of the turn the game ends on, or the start of the turn? I saved it about half way through that turn, does it matter?
Your last save should be made right before you take the last AI city (or for Spaceship, the end of the turn before it lands).
If there is a lot that needs to be done between your save and taking the last city then the game may be sent back asking that you complete more of the turn in order for us to know what you may have done to finish.
If there is a lot that needs to be done between your save and taking the last city then the game may be sent back asking that you complete more of the turn in order for us to know what you may have done to finish.
Agni Neres
Master of RiverSerpent
Day 3, Sat Feb 24, 2007
Tech is kind of slow, so I will get a science city going with Copes Obs. Using a new (to me) technique I will use a 'downlist' city, not the capital. Republic will be done soon, but I will need Mike's to make the switchover. Also important for this game will be Nav and Magellan. If both MONO and NAV are available on the next list I will have a tough decision to make.
Strategically, I would like to own most of Mongol Isle, to be able to ferry-rail-ferry in a single turn to the Celts (What do you call the place where Celts live? Gaul? ) later on. At the same time I want to remain spotless and gift them tech (my key civ -- another first for me). It may be difficult to goad them into war. One thought is to revolt x2 all but their capital, but would prefer to leave them just one city in the SE corner of their isle (I won't genocide them). Ultimately the only RR path is thru Karakorum so it will have to be force.
Given the distance to China I think this will be a spaceship game. From what I can see, only Spain offers the hills that make for good SS production centers.
My caravans nearing Gaul will be dropped in the Celtic city with the Colossus. There is no demanding city nearby so that seems the best way to proceed. Will wait for next tech discovery, which is close.
Here we go....
+260 Hit Enter, Discover REP-->MONO. NAV was on the list too.
270 Demanded dye to Spain 104g. Undemand wool x2 to Armaugh (Colossus) 100g / 104g. City of Izumi on 2-whale cite.
280 HUT-->UNIV. Damn! Celts have that already! Barb city of Tours sighted.
290 Barb Leader in Tours killed for 150g.
300 Copes Obs in Edo. Library next. Tours destroyed.
310 City of Omi on Mongol Isle. IRB another trireme. RB Edo's Library.
Gave everyone REP and updated maps, including Vikings.
320 Mongols demand FEUD; give it to them. Not ready to rumble just yet; colonies vulnerable
330 MONO-->NAV. Gr Library in London. Caravans outside Madrid hold until Spanish form Republic and come out of Anarchy. HUT-->Legion. Home continent larger than expected.
340 Demanded Salt to Madrid 168g.
350 Demanded Salt to Seville 200g. Spanish and Celts are Republics. HUT-->Nomads
360 PRB Edo Caravan -- for trade not wonder. IRB a few Crusaders for Mongol Isle
370 NAV-->BB. Wasn't sure which way to go, have lots of rivers so this will help.
Several triremes-->caravels next turn. Begin Magellan. Cities of Sido and Naples.
380 Mongols form Republic. Celtic settler arrives island we need for canal city!
RB Mike's.
390 All Elvis fired. Cities of Issus and Cunaxa.
420 Mongols are down to Icy. Built canal city of Cremona, close to Celt city on empty isle.
IRB 2 extra crusaders for deployment.
430 Several vans, small payoffs even with demand. Mongols Icy. RB Courthouse in case they try revolt trick.
440 Mongols pay 75 tribute.
450 BB-->ToG, heading for Newton.
480 HUT-->BANK
490 Vikings destroyed by Barbs. Germans somewhere, sayeth Marco. MAGELLAN. Chain of move-6 ships reach from Japan to Gaul! Each with a different home city. Republic?
500 Demanded Silver 200+g. Other vans hold awaiting tech discovery.
Quit for the night. 35 cities, Monarchy 50-7, 8 turns. 30 Techs. 7 Wonders. pop 2.78M=2nd to Celts. Sci City makes 32b // 40b with scientist. Other govs are 3 Rep and 3 Desp. Home continent way larger than expected and could take many centuries to populate.
Tech is kind of slow, so I will get a science city going with Copes Obs. Using a new (to me) technique I will use a 'downlist' city, not the capital. Republic will be done soon, but I will need Mike's to make the switchover. Also important for this game will be Nav and Magellan. If both MONO and NAV are available on the next list I will have a tough decision to make.
Strategically, I would like to own most of Mongol Isle, to be able to ferry-rail-ferry in a single turn to the Celts (What do you call the place where Celts live? Gaul? ) later on. At the same time I want to remain spotless and gift them tech (my key civ -- another first for me). It may be difficult to goad them into war. One thought is to revolt x2 all but their capital, but would prefer to leave them just one city in the SE corner of their isle (I won't genocide them). Ultimately the only RR path is thru Karakorum so it will have to be force.
Given the distance to China I think this will be a spaceship game. From what I can see, only Spain offers the hills that make for good SS production centers.
My caravans nearing Gaul will be dropped in the Celtic city with the Colossus. There is no demanding city nearby so that seems the best way to proceed. Will wait for next tech discovery, which is close.
Here we go....
+260 Hit Enter, Discover REP-->MONO. NAV was on the list too.
270 Demanded dye to Spain 104g. Undemand wool x2 to Armaugh (Colossus) 100g / 104g. City of Izumi on 2-whale cite.
280 HUT-->UNIV. Damn! Celts have that already! Barb city of Tours sighted.
290 Barb Leader in Tours killed for 150g.
300 Copes Obs in Edo. Library next. Tours destroyed.
310 City of Omi on Mongol Isle. IRB another trireme. RB Edo's Library.
Gave everyone REP and updated maps, including Vikings.
320 Mongols demand FEUD; give it to them. Not ready to rumble just yet; colonies vulnerable
330 MONO-->NAV. Gr Library in London. Caravans outside Madrid hold until Spanish form Republic and come out of Anarchy. HUT-->Legion. Home continent larger than expected.
340 Demanded Salt to Madrid 168g.
350 Demanded Salt to Seville 200g. Spanish and Celts are Republics. HUT-->Nomads
360 PRB Edo Caravan -- for trade not wonder. IRB a few Crusaders for Mongol Isle
370 NAV-->BB. Wasn't sure which way to go, have lots of rivers so this will help.
Several triremes-->caravels next turn. Begin Magellan. Cities of Sido and Naples.
380 Mongols form Republic. Celtic settler arrives island we need for canal city!
RB Mike's.
390 All Elvis fired. Cities of Issus and Cunaxa.
420 Mongols are down to Icy. Built canal city of Cremona, close to Celt city on empty isle.
IRB 2 extra crusaders for deployment.
430 Several vans, small payoffs even with demand. Mongols Icy. RB Courthouse in case they try revolt trick.
440 Mongols pay 75 tribute.
450 BB-->ToG, heading for Newton.
480 HUT-->BANK
490 Vikings destroyed by Barbs. Germans somewhere, sayeth Marco. MAGELLAN. Chain of move-6 ships reach from Japan to Gaul! Each with a different home city. Republic?
500 Demanded Silver 200+g. Other vans hold awaiting tech discovery.
Quit for the night. 35 cities, Monarchy 50-7, 8 turns. 30 Techs. 7 Wonders. pop 2.78M=2nd to Celts. Sci City makes 32b // 40b with scientist. Other govs are 3 Rep and 3 Desp. Home continent way larger than expected and could take many centuries to populate.
As a note, we usually prefer people do not post exact details of their scoring such as points/date combination or their GOTM score.
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Edit: While we're mentioned such things; any screenshots of the map or such should also be avoided.
It has been removed from the post above.
Edit: While we're mentioned such things; any screenshots of the map or such should also be avoided.
Agni Neres, on a couple of occasions you mentioned that hitting the wrong key caused you grief. When that happens to me I reload the auto-saved game which takes me back to the begining of the turn unless there has been some event, like battle, that I cannot reproduce.
Given how late I turned in my previous GOTM, this one had to be OCC.
I have played a lot of OCCs both as GOTMs and as private games. As OCCs go, this one was quite unusual:
1. Trade was achieved so late that I had about 230 shileds in my production box when I finally built Marco.
2. I made 6 alliances and kept them to the very end despite on going wars among the AI.
3. There was so much gift money that I bought over 200 shields towards Copernicus and over 300 towards Newton.
Log follows:
Date Production started Tech started Other notables
-4000 None horseman from hut
-3900 Settler Kyoto founded at 3 special location.
-3850 Alphabet
-3600 Ceremonial Burial
-3400 Ceremonial Burial from hut
-3350 Code of Laws 50g from hut.
-3300 Colossus
-2900 Horseman releases barbarian horseman from hut and kills it.
-2750 Monarchy
-2350 Kyoto is size 2 again.
-2300 Horseman from hut.
-1850 Horseman ran into French warrior. I declined knowledge exchange. My power is weak. They are mighty.
-1650 Mapmaking Instant revolution to Monarchy.
Legion from hut.
Code of Laws, Ceremonial Burial, Monarchy -> French (2) -> Masonry, 0g
-1250 Horseman releases barbarian horseman from hut and kills it.
-1200 Kyoto is size 3.
Status at -1000
City Size: 3 Government: Monarchy Gold: 128 Techs: 8 Trade routes: 0
Structures:
Wonders:
Units: 1 Settler, 1 Legion, 2 Horsemen (1 None)
Celts: No contact;
French: No embassy;
Spanish: No contact;
? No contact;
English: No contact;
Mongols: No contact;
-0925 Wonder
-0875 Bronze Working -> French (6) -> alliance, 100g
-0850 Currency
-0800 Kyoto is size 4. Mysticism from hut.
-0725 First grass turned into Silk.
-0675 50g from hut.
-0575 Feudalism from hut.
-0525 None Legion from hut.
-0475 Trade Currency, Iron Working -> French (6) -> Writing, Literacy, maps, 50g
-0450 Kyoto is size 5.
-0275 French -> 50g
-0250 Employed 3 scientists to speed up research
-0175 203 shields in the box.
-0125 -> Marco Philosophy
-0100 Trireme Second grass turned into Silk.
Mapmaking, Literacy -> Celt (3) -> alliance, maps, 150g
Warrior Code, Iron Working -> Mongol (1) -> alliance, maps, 50g
Warrior Code, Iron Working, Trade -> English (2) -> alliance, maps, 100g
Writing, Literacy, Trade -> Chinese (4) -> alliance, maps, 150g
Ceremonial Burial, Mysticism, Seafaring -> Spanish (5) -> alliance, maps, 250g
-0050 Caravan Trade -> French (6) -> Republic, 25g
Revolution started.
-0025 Republic established. T0L3S7
+0001 Celt, Spanish, English, Mongol -> 0g
Status at +0001
City Size: 5 Government: Republic Gold: 1134 Techs: 17 Trade routes: 0
Structures:
Wonders: Colossus, Marco
Units: 1 Settler, 2 Legion (1 None), 2 Horsemen (1 None), 1 Trireme
Celts: 5 cities, 10 techs; Allied with me
French: 6 cities, 15 techs; Allied with me
Spanish: 8 cities, 9 techs; Allied with me
Chinese: 5 cities, 12 techs; Allied with me
English: 5 cities, 11 techs Allied with me
Mongols: 5 cities, 8 techs; Allied with me
+0010 Caravan Supported Legion disbanded.
+0030 Caravan
+0040 Seafaring -> French (6) -> Construction, Horseback riding
+0050 Wool to Bokhara for 207.
+0060 Caravan Medicine Republic -> Chinese (4) -> Math
Wheel T0L2S8
+0090 Caravan
+0100 Celt -> 50g. Construction -> Spanish, English, Mongol -> 125, 25, 75
+0120 Caravan Supported Horseman disbanded.
+0130 Caravan
+0150 Caravan
+0170 Caravan
+0190 Shakespeare Construction, Republic -> Celt (2) -> Wheel, 100g. Wheel -> Spanish (5) -> 250. Republic -> English (3) -> 150. Wheel, Republic, Math, Mysticism -> Mongol (1) -> 50g. Chinese (3) -> 50g.
+0200 Aqueduct Astronomy Kyoto celebrates.
+0210 Kyoto is size 6.
+0220 Kyoto is size 7. T0L3S7
+0230 Kyoto is size 8. Spanish build Lighthouse.
+0240 Marketplace Kyoto is size 9. T0L4S6.
Mongols build Hanging Gardens.
+0250 Kyoto is size 10. Math -> Spanish -> 150g Philosophy -> Celt (3) -> 50g.
Philosophy -> French (6) -> Bridge Building, 50g.
Wheel -> English (1) -> 0g
Philosophy, Horseback riding -> Mongol (0)
+0260 Kyoto is size 11. T0L3S7
+0270 Library Kyoto is size 12. T8L0S2.
Gems to Valladolid for 440.
+0280 Engineering Gold to Barcelona for 506.
+0290 Caravan T2L0S8.
+0310 Caravan
+0320 Sanitation Engineering -> Spanish -> 0g.
All but Astronomy -> Chinese (my key civ)
+0330 Copernicus
+0340 288 shields rush bought.
+0350 structure Power back to Weak. Spanish -> 100g.
Trade -> Celt (3) -> 100g.
Seafaring -> English (0)
50g + 7 techs -> Mongol (2) -> 50g.
+0370 -> Sewer Banking English build Great Library.
Celts build Pyramids.
Astronomy, Engineering , 50g -> French (6) -> Banking, 100g. T0L2S8
+0380 University Kyoto celebrates.
+0390 Harbor Kyoto is size 13. Chinese (4) -> 100g.
+0400 Kyoto is size 14.
+0410 Bank Kyoto is size 15. T5L3S2
+0420 -> University Theory of Gravity Kyoto is size 16. T0L3S7
+0430 Bank Kyoto is size 17. Philosophy -> English (0)
Sanitation -> Celt (4), French (6) -> 100, 50
50g -> Spanish (5) -> 200g
University, Sanitation -> Mongol (2) -> 50g
+0440 Kyoto is size 18. T0L2S8
+0450 Newton Chemistry Kyoto is size 19. None Settler from hut.
+0460 Kyoto is size 20.
+0470 Kyoto is size 21.
+0480 Kyoto is size 22. University -> Celt (5) -> 50
50g -> Spanish (4) -> 100g.
345 shields bought. T8L2S0
+0490 Caravan Economics University -> French (6) -> Polytheism, 50
T0L3S7
+0500 Kyoto is size 23. T2L0S8.
Status at +0500
City Size: 23 Government: Republic Gold: 251 Techs: 32 Trade routes: +9+8+8
Structures: Marketplace, Library, Aqueduct, Bank, University, Sewer, Harbor
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton
Units: 2 Settlers (1 None), 1 None Legion, 1 None Horsemen, 1 Trireme, 2 Caravans
Celts: 7 cities, 21 techs; Allied with me, War with English & Mongols; Pyramids
French: 8 cities, 25 techs; Allied with me
Spanish: 10 cities, 17 techs; Allied with me, War with English; Lighthouse
Chinese: 4 cities, 26 techs; Allied with me
English: 5 cities, 26 techs Allied with me, War with Celts & Spanish; Great Library
Mongols: 6 cities, 26 techs; Allied with me, War with Celts; Hanging Gardens
+0520 Caravan Chivalry
+0540 Caravan
+0550 Monotheism
+0560 Stock Exchange
+0570 Pottery Chivalry, Polytheism, Chemistry -> Mongol -> Pottery, 50g.
Seafaring -> Celt (4) -> 100g.
50g -> Spanish (5) -> 200g
Chinese (3) -> 100g
None horseman killed in attack on barbarian Legion. Legion finishes the barbarian off.
+0580 Invention
+0590 Democracy
+0600 Caravan
+0610 Gunpowder
+0620 Caravan Revolution started.
+0630 Democracy established. T2L0S8
+0640 Metallurgy French deliver to Kyoto
+0650 Caravan
+0660 Navigation Gunpowder, Invention, 50g -> Mongol (3) -> Navigation, 100g.
Pottery -> French (6) -> 100g
Gunpowder -> Celts (4) -> 150g
50g -> Spanish (5) -> 200g
+0670 Caravan
+0680 -> Knight Magnetism Mongols build Sun Tzu. T1L0S9
+0690 Caravan Physics -> Mongol (3) -> 50g
6 techs to Chinese (1)
+0700 Steam Engine
+0710 Caravan
+0720 Electricity
+0730 Caravan
+0740 Conscription Beads to Shanghai for 802.
Navigation -> Celt (4)
5 techs to Mongols (2)
3 techs to Chinese (3)
+0750 Rifleman Refrigeration Undemanded Dye to Nanking for 444.
+0760 3 techs to Chinese (1)
+0770 Supermarket Atomic Theory T0L0S10
+0790 Explosives
+0800 Galleon
+0810 Leadership
+0820 Caravan
+0830 Railroad
+0840 Caravan
+0850 Tactics 50g, Navigation, Conscription -> French (6) -> 200g.
+0860 Caravan Spanish build King Richard
+0870 Industrialization T3L0S7. Two turn techs no longer possible despite being my own key civ
+0880 Caravan
+0900 Caravan Corporation
+0920 Caravan
+0930 Electronics
+0940 Freight
+0950 First Pollution appears
+0960 Darwin Steel T2L0S8
+0990 Machine Tools
+1000 Freight Refining
Mini
Status at +1000
City Size: 23 Government: Democracy Gold: 2699 Techs: 58 Routes: +10+10+11
Structures: Marketplace, Library, Aqueduct, Bank, University, Sewer, Harbor, Stock Exchange, Supermarket
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton, Darwin
Units: 2 Settlers (1 None), 1 None Legion, 1 Riflemen, 1 Knight, 1 Trireme, 1 Galleon, 7 Caravans, 2 Freight
Celts: 8 cities, 28 techs; Allied with me; Pyramids
French: 10 cities, 32 techs; Allied with me
Spanish: 14 cities, 21 techs; Allied with me, War with English; Lighthouse, King Richard
Chinese: 6 cities, 43 techs; Allied with me, War with English
English: 7 cities, 37 techs Allied with me, War with Chinese & Spanish; Great Library
Mongols: 7 cities, 40 techs; Allied with me; Hanging Gardens, Sun Tzu
+1020 Freight Combustion
+1030 Chinese build Leo. Mongols build Eiffel
Industrialization -> Chinese (3), Celt (4), French(6) -> 100, 150, 100
Gunpowder -> Spanish (5) -> 200
Railroad, Industrialization -> Mongol (2) -> 50
+1040 Freight Trireme disbanded. T0L2S8
+1050 Factory Automobile Kyoto celebrates. Gold to Shanghai for 976
3 techs -> Mongols (2) -> 50g
2 techs -> Chinese (3)
Railroad -> Celt (4)
+1060 Kyoto is size 25. Power jumped to moderate
2 techs -> Spanish, Chinese (2)
Leadership -> Mongol (1)
Railroad -> French (6)
+1070 Kyoto is size 26
+1080 -> Superhighways Mass Production Kyoto is size 27
All but Automobile -> Spanish (5) -> 100
+1090 structure Kyoto is size 28
+1100 -> Mass Transit Computers Kyoto is size 29 and temporarily out of food
+1110 structure
+1120 -> Research Lab Recycling
+1130 Freight
+1140 Kyoto is size 30. T7L0S3
Power dropped to Inadequate
Lots of techs to French but no gift.
Mongol (3) -> 50g
All but Computers -> Chinese (1)
+1150 Factory Nuclear Fission Spanish build Magellan.
Power back to Moderate. T2L0S8
Spanish (5) -> 100g.
+1170 Nuclear Power
+1190 Nuclear Plant Laser
+1210 Amphibious Warfare
+1220 Offshore Platform
+1230 Mobile Warfare
+1250 Recycling Center Robotics
+1260 T0L2S8
+1270 Flight Kyoto celebrates. French (5) -> 100g
Spanish (6) -> 150g. Celt (4) -> 50g
+1280 Manufacturing Pl. Kyoto is size 31. French (5) -> 100g
Spanish (6) -> 150g. Celt (4) -> 50g
+1290 Theology Kyoto is size 32. T0L0S10
Computers -> Chinese (1) -> Theology
+1300 Radio
+1310 Advanced Flight
+1320 Freight
+1330 Freight Rocketry Advanced Flight -> Spanish
None Musketeer from hut.
+1340 Freight
+1350 Freight Combined Arms
+1360 Freight
+1370 Freight Power dropped to Inadequate. 50g from hut
+1380 wonder Space Flight T2L0S8
+1410 -> Apollo Plastics
+1420 SS Structural Knight disbanded.
+1430 SS Structural Spanish build Adam Smith.
Settler disbanded. T0L2S8
+1440 SS Structural Superconductor Kyoto celebrates. 100g from hut.
+1450 SS Structural Kyoto is size 33 and maxed out. T2L0S8
+1460 SS Structural
+1470 SS Structural Fundamentalism
+1480 SS Structural 100g from hut.
+1490 SS Structural
+1500 SS Structural Fusion Power
+1505 SS Structural 50g from hut.
+1510 SS Structural Superconductor -> French
+1515 SS Structural Future Tech 1 Celts build Suffrage. 50g from hut. T1L0S9
Sewer Sold.
+1520 SS Structural
+1525 SS Structural 50g from hut. Aqueduct sold.
+1530 SS Structural Communism Superconductor -> Chinese -> Communism
None Musketeer from hut.
+1535 SS Component Future Tech 2
+1540 SS Component French build Hoover Dam
+1545 SS Component Future Tech 3 200g from hut. T10L0S0
Nuclear Fission -> Spanish (6) -> 200g
Conscription -> Celt (4) -> 100g
+1550 SS Component
+1555 SS Component
+1560 SS Component
+1565 SS Module Tactics -> Celt (4) -> 100g. T1L0S9
Radio -> Spanish (6) -> 200g
+1570 SS Module Power is weak. T0L0S10
+1575 SS Module Power is Pathetic.
Advanced Flight -> Celts -> 200g
Mobile Warfare -> Spanish -> 300g
+1580 City Walls French steal Space Flight. I keep the peace.
15s3c1m space ship launched.
Metallurgy -> Celts -> 200g
Undemanded Oil to Caernarfon for 328.
+1581 Espionage French deliver to Kyoto. T2L0S8
+1582 Battleship
+1583 Steel -> French
+1584 AEGIS French join the space race by building a structural .
+1585 Future Tech 4 Mongols build Michelangelo.
Dye to Celtic Rhondda for 248. T0L0S10
+1586 Armor Tech bombed my key civ, Celts.
+1588 Oracle Future Tech 5
+1591 Environmentalism Galleon disbanded.
+1593 Great Wall Mongols join the space race
+1594 Future Tech 6 T0L10S0
I have played a lot of OCCs both as GOTMs and as private games. As OCCs go, this one was quite unusual:
1. Trade was achieved so late that I had about 230 shileds in my production box when I finally built Marco.
2. I made 6 alliances and kept them to the very end despite on going wars among the AI.
3. There was so much gift money that I bought over 200 shields towards Copernicus and over 300 towards Newton.
Log follows:
Date Production started Tech started Other notables
-4000 None horseman from hut
-3900 Settler Kyoto founded at 3 special location.
-3850 Alphabet
-3600 Ceremonial Burial
-3400 Ceremonial Burial from hut
-3350 Code of Laws 50g from hut.
-3300 Colossus
-2900 Horseman releases barbarian horseman from hut and kills it.
-2750 Monarchy
-2350 Kyoto is size 2 again.
-2300 Horseman from hut.
-1850 Horseman ran into French warrior. I declined knowledge exchange. My power is weak. They are mighty.
-1650 Mapmaking Instant revolution to Monarchy.
Legion from hut.
Code of Laws, Ceremonial Burial, Monarchy -> French (2) -> Masonry, 0g
-1250 Horseman releases barbarian horseman from hut and kills it.
-1200 Kyoto is size 3.
Status at -1000
City Size: 3 Government: Monarchy Gold: 128 Techs: 8 Trade routes: 0
Structures:
Wonders:
Units: 1 Settler, 1 Legion, 2 Horsemen (1 None)
Celts: No contact;
French: No embassy;
Spanish: No contact;
? No contact;
English: No contact;
Mongols: No contact;
-0925 Wonder
-0875 Bronze Working -> French (6) -> alliance, 100g
-0850 Currency
-0800 Kyoto is size 4. Mysticism from hut.
-0725 First grass turned into Silk.
-0675 50g from hut.
-0575 Feudalism from hut.
-0525 None Legion from hut.
-0475 Trade Currency, Iron Working -> French (6) -> Writing, Literacy, maps, 50g
-0450 Kyoto is size 5.
-0275 French -> 50g
-0250 Employed 3 scientists to speed up research
-0175 203 shields in the box.
-0125 -> Marco Philosophy
-0100 Trireme Second grass turned into Silk.
Mapmaking, Literacy -> Celt (3) -> alliance, maps, 150g
Warrior Code, Iron Working -> Mongol (1) -> alliance, maps, 50g
Warrior Code, Iron Working, Trade -> English (2) -> alliance, maps, 100g
Writing, Literacy, Trade -> Chinese (4) -> alliance, maps, 150g
Ceremonial Burial, Mysticism, Seafaring -> Spanish (5) -> alliance, maps, 250g
-0050 Caravan Trade -> French (6) -> Republic, 25g
Revolution started.
-0025 Republic established. T0L3S7
+0001 Celt, Spanish, English, Mongol -> 0g
Status at +0001
City Size: 5 Government: Republic Gold: 1134 Techs: 17 Trade routes: 0
Structures:
Wonders: Colossus, Marco
Units: 1 Settler, 2 Legion (1 None), 2 Horsemen (1 None), 1 Trireme
Celts: 5 cities, 10 techs; Allied with me
French: 6 cities, 15 techs; Allied with me
Spanish: 8 cities, 9 techs; Allied with me
Chinese: 5 cities, 12 techs; Allied with me
English: 5 cities, 11 techs Allied with me
Mongols: 5 cities, 8 techs; Allied with me
+0010 Caravan Supported Legion disbanded.
+0030 Caravan
+0040 Seafaring -> French (6) -> Construction, Horseback riding
+0050 Wool to Bokhara for 207.
+0060 Caravan Medicine Republic -> Chinese (4) -> Math
Wheel T0L2S8
+0090 Caravan
+0100 Celt -> 50g. Construction -> Spanish, English, Mongol -> 125, 25, 75
+0120 Caravan Supported Horseman disbanded.
+0130 Caravan
+0150 Caravan
+0170 Caravan
+0190 Shakespeare Construction, Republic -> Celt (2) -> Wheel, 100g. Wheel -> Spanish (5) -> 250. Republic -> English (3) -> 150. Wheel, Republic, Math, Mysticism -> Mongol (1) -> 50g. Chinese (3) -> 50g.
+0200 Aqueduct Astronomy Kyoto celebrates.
+0210 Kyoto is size 6.
+0220 Kyoto is size 7. T0L3S7
+0230 Kyoto is size 8. Spanish build Lighthouse.
+0240 Marketplace Kyoto is size 9. T0L4S6.
Mongols build Hanging Gardens.
+0250 Kyoto is size 10. Math -> Spanish -> 150g Philosophy -> Celt (3) -> 50g.
Philosophy -> French (6) -> Bridge Building, 50g.
Wheel -> English (1) -> 0g
Philosophy, Horseback riding -> Mongol (0)
+0260 Kyoto is size 11. T0L3S7
+0270 Library Kyoto is size 12. T8L0S2.
Gems to Valladolid for 440.
+0280 Engineering Gold to Barcelona for 506.
+0290 Caravan T2L0S8.
+0310 Caravan
+0320 Sanitation Engineering -> Spanish -> 0g.
All but Astronomy -> Chinese (my key civ)
+0330 Copernicus
+0340 288 shields rush bought.
+0350 structure Power back to Weak. Spanish -> 100g.
Trade -> Celt (3) -> 100g.
Seafaring -> English (0)
50g + 7 techs -> Mongol (2) -> 50g.
+0370 -> Sewer Banking English build Great Library.
Celts build Pyramids.
Astronomy, Engineering , 50g -> French (6) -> Banking, 100g. T0L2S8
+0380 University Kyoto celebrates.
+0390 Harbor Kyoto is size 13. Chinese (4) -> 100g.
+0400 Kyoto is size 14.
+0410 Bank Kyoto is size 15. T5L3S2
+0420 -> University Theory of Gravity Kyoto is size 16. T0L3S7
+0430 Bank Kyoto is size 17. Philosophy -> English (0)
Sanitation -> Celt (4), French (6) -> 100, 50
50g -> Spanish (5) -> 200g
University, Sanitation -> Mongol (2) -> 50g
+0440 Kyoto is size 18. T0L2S8
+0450 Newton Chemistry Kyoto is size 19. None Settler from hut.
+0460 Kyoto is size 20.
+0470 Kyoto is size 21.
+0480 Kyoto is size 22. University -> Celt (5) -> 50
50g -> Spanish (4) -> 100g.
345 shields bought. T8L2S0
+0490 Caravan Economics University -> French (6) -> Polytheism, 50
T0L3S7
+0500 Kyoto is size 23. T2L0S8.
Status at +0500
City Size: 23 Government: Republic Gold: 251 Techs: 32 Trade routes: +9+8+8
Structures: Marketplace, Library, Aqueduct, Bank, University, Sewer, Harbor
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton
Units: 2 Settlers (1 None), 1 None Legion, 1 None Horsemen, 1 Trireme, 2 Caravans
Celts: 7 cities, 21 techs; Allied with me, War with English & Mongols; Pyramids
French: 8 cities, 25 techs; Allied with me
Spanish: 10 cities, 17 techs; Allied with me, War with English; Lighthouse
Chinese: 4 cities, 26 techs; Allied with me
English: 5 cities, 26 techs Allied with me, War with Celts & Spanish; Great Library
Mongols: 6 cities, 26 techs; Allied with me, War with Celts; Hanging Gardens
+0520 Caravan Chivalry
+0540 Caravan
+0550 Monotheism
+0560 Stock Exchange
+0570 Pottery Chivalry, Polytheism, Chemistry -> Mongol -> Pottery, 50g.
Seafaring -> Celt (4) -> 100g.
50g -> Spanish (5) -> 200g
Chinese (3) -> 100g
None horseman killed in attack on barbarian Legion. Legion finishes the barbarian off.
+0580 Invention
+0590 Democracy
+0600 Caravan
+0610 Gunpowder
+0620 Caravan Revolution started.
+0630 Democracy established. T2L0S8
+0640 Metallurgy French deliver to Kyoto
+0650 Caravan
+0660 Navigation Gunpowder, Invention, 50g -> Mongol (3) -> Navigation, 100g.
Pottery -> French (6) -> 100g
Gunpowder -> Celts (4) -> 150g
50g -> Spanish (5) -> 200g
+0670 Caravan
+0680 -> Knight Magnetism Mongols build Sun Tzu. T1L0S9
+0690 Caravan Physics -> Mongol (3) -> 50g
6 techs to Chinese (1)
+0700 Steam Engine
+0710 Caravan
+0720 Electricity
+0730 Caravan
+0740 Conscription Beads to Shanghai for 802.
Navigation -> Celt (4)
5 techs to Mongols (2)
3 techs to Chinese (3)
+0750 Rifleman Refrigeration Undemanded Dye to Nanking for 444.
+0760 3 techs to Chinese (1)
+0770 Supermarket Atomic Theory T0L0S10
+0790 Explosives
+0800 Galleon
+0810 Leadership
+0820 Caravan
+0830 Railroad
+0840 Caravan
+0850 Tactics 50g, Navigation, Conscription -> French (6) -> 200g.
+0860 Caravan Spanish build King Richard
+0870 Industrialization T3L0S7. Two turn techs no longer possible despite being my own key civ
+0880 Caravan
+0900 Caravan Corporation
+0920 Caravan
+0930 Electronics
+0940 Freight
+0950 First Pollution appears
+0960 Darwin Steel T2L0S8
+0990 Machine Tools
+1000 Freight Refining
Mini
Status at +1000
City Size: 23 Government: Democracy Gold: 2699 Techs: 58 Routes: +10+10+11
Structures: Marketplace, Library, Aqueduct, Bank, University, Sewer, Harbor, Stock Exchange, Supermarket
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton, Darwin
Units: 2 Settlers (1 None), 1 None Legion, 1 Riflemen, 1 Knight, 1 Trireme, 1 Galleon, 7 Caravans, 2 Freight
Celts: 8 cities, 28 techs; Allied with me; Pyramids
French: 10 cities, 32 techs; Allied with me
Spanish: 14 cities, 21 techs; Allied with me, War with English; Lighthouse, King Richard
Chinese: 6 cities, 43 techs; Allied with me, War with English
English: 7 cities, 37 techs Allied with me, War with Chinese & Spanish; Great Library
Mongols: 7 cities, 40 techs; Allied with me; Hanging Gardens, Sun Tzu
+1020 Freight Combustion
+1030 Chinese build Leo. Mongols build Eiffel
Industrialization -> Chinese (3), Celt (4), French(6) -> 100, 150, 100
Gunpowder -> Spanish (5) -> 200
Railroad, Industrialization -> Mongol (2) -> 50
+1040 Freight Trireme disbanded. T0L2S8
+1050 Factory Automobile Kyoto celebrates. Gold to Shanghai for 976
3 techs -> Mongols (2) -> 50g
2 techs -> Chinese (3)
Railroad -> Celt (4)
+1060 Kyoto is size 25. Power jumped to moderate
2 techs -> Spanish, Chinese (2)
Leadership -> Mongol (1)
Railroad -> French (6)
+1070 Kyoto is size 26
+1080 -> Superhighways Mass Production Kyoto is size 27
All but Automobile -> Spanish (5) -> 100
+1090 structure Kyoto is size 28
+1100 -> Mass Transit Computers Kyoto is size 29 and temporarily out of food
+1110 structure
+1120 -> Research Lab Recycling
+1130 Freight
+1140 Kyoto is size 30. T7L0S3
Power dropped to Inadequate
Lots of techs to French but no gift.
Mongol (3) -> 50g
All but Computers -> Chinese (1)
+1150 Factory Nuclear Fission Spanish build Magellan.
Power back to Moderate. T2L0S8
Spanish (5) -> 100g.
+1170 Nuclear Power
+1190 Nuclear Plant Laser
+1210 Amphibious Warfare
+1220 Offshore Platform
+1230 Mobile Warfare
+1250 Recycling Center Robotics
+1260 T0L2S8
+1270 Flight Kyoto celebrates. French (5) -> 100g
Spanish (6) -> 150g. Celt (4) -> 50g
+1280 Manufacturing Pl. Kyoto is size 31. French (5) -> 100g
Spanish (6) -> 150g. Celt (4) -> 50g
+1290 Theology Kyoto is size 32. T0L0S10
Computers -> Chinese (1) -> Theology
+1300 Radio
+1310 Advanced Flight
+1320 Freight
+1330 Freight Rocketry Advanced Flight -> Spanish
None Musketeer from hut.
+1340 Freight
+1350 Freight Combined Arms
+1360 Freight
+1370 Freight Power dropped to Inadequate. 50g from hut
+1380 wonder Space Flight T2L0S8
+1410 -> Apollo Plastics
+1420 SS Structural Knight disbanded.
+1430 SS Structural Spanish build Adam Smith.
Settler disbanded. T0L2S8
+1440 SS Structural Superconductor Kyoto celebrates. 100g from hut.
+1450 SS Structural Kyoto is size 33 and maxed out. T2L0S8
+1460 SS Structural
+1470 SS Structural Fundamentalism
+1480 SS Structural 100g from hut.
+1490 SS Structural
+1500 SS Structural Fusion Power
+1505 SS Structural 50g from hut.
+1510 SS Structural Superconductor -> French
+1515 SS Structural Future Tech 1 Celts build Suffrage. 50g from hut. T1L0S9
Sewer Sold.
+1520 SS Structural
+1525 SS Structural 50g from hut. Aqueduct sold.
+1530 SS Structural Communism Superconductor -> Chinese -> Communism
None Musketeer from hut.
+1535 SS Component Future Tech 2
+1540 SS Component French build Hoover Dam
+1545 SS Component Future Tech 3 200g from hut. T10L0S0
Nuclear Fission -> Spanish (6) -> 200g
Conscription -> Celt (4) -> 100g
+1550 SS Component
+1555 SS Component
+1560 SS Component
+1565 SS Module Tactics -> Celt (4) -> 100g. T1L0S9
Radio -> Spanish (6) -> 200g
+1570 SS Module Power is weak. T0L0S10
+1575 SS Module Power is Pathetic.
Advanced Flight -> Celts -> 200g
Mobile Warfare -> Spanish -> 300g
+1580 City Walls French steal Space Flight. I keep the peace.
15s3c1m space ship launched.
Metallurgy -> Celts -> 200g
Undemanded Oil to Caernarfon for 328.
+1581 Espionage French deliver to Kyoto. T2L0S8
+1582 Battleship
+1583 Steel -> French
+1584 AEGIS French join the space race by building a structural .
+1585 Future Tech 4 Mongols build Michelangelo.
Dye to Celtic Rhondda for 248. T0L0S10
+1586 Armor Tech bombed my key civ, Celts.
+1588 Oracle Future Tech 5
+1591 Environmentalism Galleon disbanded.
+1593 Great Wall Mongols join the space race
+1594 Future Tech 6 T0L10S0
Agni Neres
Master of RiverSerpent
Is that legal?
Agni Neres
Master of RiverSerpent
Duke should answer that.
But it is certainly fair and not cheating. One should not be penalized for accidentally hitting the wrong key.
If it is something such as hitting the wrong key then reloading would not be an unreasonable thing to do; as long as it doesn't lead to the recreation of any significant event (combat results, barb actions, AI moves, etc). We have allowed 'fumble finger' reloads before.
