Guantánamo-Pandora's Box of Western civilisation?

[nonconformist]

Sorry, Noncon, you tried this last time and still came up short. You were part of the whacko crowd that keeps trying to say WP is against the conventions...its not.

Sorry, but on this one, you are just delusional.

But I do encourage you, please take your evidence to the world court and make suit. Please do.

WP used against sodiers is illegal.

That's not what I',m arguing.

I'm arguing the indiscriminate bombing carried out by airvcrapt and artillery are warcrimes.
Which it is.

 

[Xanikk999]

Well, I s eem to be throwing a lot of analogies today, but this kisn't an analogy.
Gitmo is, in all senses of the word, a concentration camp.

You must be joking right? I agree with you on many things but not this! If guantomo bay was a concentration camp we would be working these people to death then throwing there body in an oven or poison them or throw them in a oven alive. And we would be doing all sorts of toxic and biological experements on them. Most of the prisoners i can assure you are just being locked in thier cells not executed by cruel means.

Now looking back on what you said can you call that a concentration camp?

 

[nonconformist]

You must be joking right? I agree with you on many things but not this! If guantomo bay was a concentration camp we would be working these people to death then throwing there body in an oven or poison them or throw them in a oven alive. And we would be doing all sorts of toxic and biological experements on them. Most of the prisoners i can assure you are just being locked in thier cells not executed by cruel means.

Now looking back on what you said can you call that a concentration camp?

Yes.

If you'd read any of the thread, you'd have realised I mean "Concentration Camp".
The media uses it wrongly to refer to Extermination and Labour camps (KZ) which are considerably different.

 

[Xanikk999]

Yes.

If you'd read any of the thread, you'd have realised I mean "Concentration Camp".
The media uses it wrongly to refer to Extermination and Labour camps (KZ) which are considerably different.

Sorry threads to long for me to read i apologize. I guess in the U.S concentration camp means the same thing sorry about that.

 

[MobBoss]

WP used against sodiers is illegal.

That's not what I',m arguing.

I'm arguing the indiscriminate bombing carried out by airvcrapt and artillery are warcrimes.
Which it is.

No bombing during the war was "indiscriminate" regardless of the label you or your fellow leftists would assign to it.

WP is not illegal. It is used as a smoke agent. Been around this one before and you lost the arguement before.

 

[nonconformist]

No bombing during the war was "indiscriminate" regardless of the label you or your fellow leftists would assign to it.

So all those pretty images we had on TV when the war was declared was fake?

Did I imagine the huge bombings of Fallujah?

Were all those people that died in US raids really Saddamite soldiers?

Were the 40,000-100,000 dead caused by the Iraqis?

 

[Xanikk999]

So all those pretty images we had on TV when the war was declared was fake?

Did I imagine the huge bombings of Fallujah?

Were all those people that died in US raids really Saddamite soldiers?

Were the 40,000-100,000 dead caused by the Iraqis?

Bombings are never perfect theres going to be some unfortunate losses but was it really 40,000-100,000 dead? That seems like an awful lot.

 

[MobBoss]

So all those pretty images we had on TV when the war was declared was fake?

Targeted upon enemy military positions.

Did I imagine the huge bombings of Fallujah?

Only after the populace was given adequate time and warned to get out of the warzone.

Were all those people that died in US raids really Saddamite soldiers?

By far the majority were yes.

Were the 40,000-100,000 dead caused by the Iraqis?

Insurgents have killed by far more civilians than the US military and of course, Iraqi soldiers killed civilians accidently during the war as well.

 

[nonconformist]

Targeted upon enemy military positions.

Not well targeted, eh?

Only after the populace was given adequate time and warned to get out of the warzone.

Yeah, because having yto leave your life behind because someone's gonna bomb you to smithereens isn't difficult.

By far the majority were yes.

Yeah, I'm sure they were.

Insurgents have killed by far more civilians than the US military and of course, Iraqi soldiers killed civilians accidently during the war as well.

In other words, the Ameircan army has been responsible for civilian deaths, through negligance, or deliberate targeting?

 

[MobBoss]

Not well targeted, eh?

Actually target better than any war in the planets history.

Yeah, because having yto leave your life behind because someone's gonna bomb you to smithereens isn't difficult.

Common occurance in war bub. Leaving a life behind it much better than the alternative...losing your life.

Yeah, I'm sure they were.

Thanks, glad we agree.

In other words, the Ameircan army has been responsible for civilian deaths, through negligance, or deliberate targeting?

Neither. Are you so naive to think that civilians dont get caught in crossfires sometimes? Or that both sides kills civilians accidently? If a platoon of bad guys runs into a house and some innocents hiding in the basement get killed is that negligence? NO. Deliberate targeting? NO. You see, wars are not prosecuted like the police rousting a drunk with a shotgun out of a house, which you seem to think it is. Son, stick to your liberal arts stuff there in the UK...or at least until you get a better understanding of what actually happens in a warzone.