guess the exp civs

Chitster said:
korea ?? please they don't even have an empire they are on a peninsula in asia end of story.
do you know anything of asian history and the rise of Korea??

the same thing w/ethiopia...not all nations today were contained in just the lands they currently have ~ read some African history
 
Reignking said:
That's what I was thinking -- they own the entire continent!

Not strictly true. They own most of the continent, but lets not forget New Zealand and some of the smaller islands such as Fiji and Samoa.

Back on subject, I would like to see the Turks and Mayans added with another Civ that hasn't been seen before in the game. Someone like:

The Moche: A highly cultured, early South American Civ.

Kongo: A kingdom with an extensive trade network.
 
Chitster said:
Australia. they wre a covict colony which evolved into a grand civ and built a vast empire (on the aussie continent) they were involved in both WW

By those standards, we should make Canada a civ. After all, except for the convict colony part, both fit your criteria. And Australia isn't an empire, just a country, whose land was given to it by Britain.

Chitster said:
Civ's like ethiopia ans stuff like that didn't even build an empire

There is more to a civilization than just the size of it's empire. :rolleyes:

Chitster said:
khymer is just a small empire in SE asia nothing big

See above

korea ?? please they don't even have an empire they are on a peninsula in asia end of story. said:
And the Greeks are on a peninsula in Europe.

Chitster said:
yeah they freed themselves from british power and rebuit a derilict country

I assume you are speaking of Ethiopia. In which case you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Ethiopia was never under British power.

Bongo-Bongo said:
Not strictly true. They own most of the continent, but lets not forget New Zealand and some of the smaller islands such as Fiji and Samoa.

Australia owns the entire continent. New Zealand and those islands aren't part of the island. Oceania is a region, not a continent.
 
SuperBeaverInc. said:
Australia owns the entire continent. New Zealand and those islands aren't part of the island. Oceania is a region, not a continent.

Well I suppose in a sense Australia owns an entire continent, but only if reffered to as a continent and not a country as the country does not make up the entire continent. Australia and New Guinea make up the continent and as for New Zealand, according to Encarta, the islands are part of the continent, whilst from what I have seen on Wikipedia, it appears they dont classify it as part of the continent.
 
Man how many of these kind of posts are there going to be? :D


Well again I make my plea to include Siam/Thailand. This civ deffinately derserves it. But any SE asian Civ would be nice at this point. I see people Saying things to the effect that Khmer doesnt deserve to be in... Huh?? Any great empire should be considered. For a few hundred years Khmere ruled the majority of the Indo China penninsula, had very advanced cities for their day, strong military, distinct culture and history ( they are not a part of "china south" as some people believe). So far nothing from SE asia, and the region does need to be represented as they are culturally distinct from the rest of Asia. Though Vietnam has many Chinese influences I deffinatly believe that Vietnam deserves to be in as well.

But as I suspect that you will see just one ( if even that, I have my doubts) SE asian Civ. I would pick Siam; as Siam developed Khmer died as a great power. Siam was the strongest power in indochina durring the height of power ( though not always the militarily mightiest) and was able to resist colinization while every one of her neighbors was taken over. I have already written alot about Siam on the other "expansion civ" thread and dont feel like writting all that again. Everything written about Khmere above can be applied to Siam as well, only Siam outlasted Khmer as a world power. Needless to say Siam has every thing that makes a Civ good for the game and still exists today as the strongest economy in SE asia as Thailand. Plus the country is full of beautiful woman and is the home of Mauy Thai...:D
 
Ahh I now see that this is a Guess the Exp civs thread. My fault. In that case I highly doubt that Siam is in and that Khmer has only a slightly better chance ( becouse they already put Angkor wat in the game).

You will see Korea, Two American indian tribes ( which in no way should be put in before Khmer or Siam, MY oppinion) two or three Eurpean/Near east Civs. and Maybe one African)

As to the actual civs, cant be sure other than Korea. I doubt there will be anything new that hasnt been in the games before.
 
Bongo-Bongo said:
Well I suppose in a sense Australia owns an entire continent, but only if reffered to as a continent and not a country as the country does not make up the entire continent. Australia and New Guinea make up the continent and as for New Zealand, according to Encarta, the islands are part of the continent, whilst from what I have seen on Wikipedia, it appears they dont classify it as part of the continent.

A continent is one landmass. Only Australia is part of that landmass. Not New Zealand, not New Guinea, not the islands. They are all their own landmasses.
 
I doubt there will be an African or South East Asian civ: most players live in countries no where near the said regions and they (generally) knew little about these regions' history. The developers would hate to bore their customers with civs they don't known about. I doubt that there will be a hebrew civ (just think: what would the capital city be called? Jerusalem?? Isn't that the city behind Saladin?).
The expansion would probably contain Korea, some European colonial powers (eg Portugal, Dutch), Babylon, (maybe) Carthage and there's a slight chance Turks will be in it.
 
In my view, there's only 5 continents on the planet (Eurasia, North America, South America, Africa, and Antarctica). Anyway, back on track...

These are my guesses:

Vikings - Founded Russia, shaped modern Scandinavia, mingled with Britain
Babylonians - Rose to power. Twice. In two very different eras. And conquered the Ferticle Crescent. Both times. Also made significant contributions to science.
Portuguese - Seriously competed with Spain for control of the New World and several other areas
Byzantines - Ruled parts of the Middle East, the eastern Mediterranean, and southeast Asia for a thousand years.
Ottomans - Conquered the Byzantines and knocked on the doorstep of Europe.
Sumerians - Founded civilization and made significant contributions to science, math, engineering, etc.

The Mayans, Ethiopians, Dutch, Austrians, Koreans, Carthaginians, Celts, Hebrews, and Siam all got consideration on my part, but I think these are the most deserving.
 
rbis4rbb said:
I did some research after you made this statement. They did not rule a large area compared to civs like the Ottomans. They didn't explore or do daring raids like the Vikings. And they werrent a cradle of civiliaztion as Sumeria/Babylon was. Just having a civilization to balance a part of the world out is not good. With that logic, the Siberians or Eskimos should be a civ.


cough cough...Angkor Wat...cough cough
 
Khmer culture shaped mainland se asia till today. For example, their successors, Siam, ruled most of mainland se asia for most of the time between 1500-1850, but their culture is influenced by that of the Khmer eg they adopted a modified Khmer alphabet.
 
i dont care what other civs are in the game, i just wanna see Portugal in the expansion.

... i still need convincing about the Khmer. never heard of them before coming to this board, and at first it just sounded like someone had heard of them and decided that it would be nice to have a civ that no one had really heard of before (that was my interpretation). some of you argue ferverantly that they should be included... but some people also argue ferverantly that Canada and Australia should be included. So i guess that we'll just have to see. And having the Angkor Wat is by no means a justification to adding them as a Civ.
 
Vietcong said:
so far, presumably 3 of them will be
1. Carthage
2.gaul
3.the vikings

well im not sure how reliable that is, but it seems like a very good gess.

so what are the other 3 civs going to be?
A brave but hopeless endeavour. Nobody is going to try and answer. They all just want to repeat their wishlist for the zillionst time. :rolleyes:
 
"added with another Civ that hasn't been seen before in the game. Someone like:

The Moche: A highly cultured, early South American Civ.

Kongo: A kingdom with an extensive trade network."

I think the same, but Firaxis won't do that. They won't surprise us. They could put some interesting civs like Canada, Mexico (why someone said they are stupid options?), Vietnam, Siam, Ethiopia, Brazil? They could even put Venezuela, since they name Simon Bolivar as one of the best leaders in History! Wouldn't this be interesting? But they won't do that. Or they could change the name of a Civ for modern times: Aztlan=Mexico, Rome=Italy, Ottoman Empire=Turk Republic (with Ataturk!).

Since the Vikings are from the Medieval Ages and both Gengis Khan and other scenario I can't remember now are all medieval, this expansion is focused in the Ancient times mainly. I could recomend Assyria (a great, militaristic empire), Israel, (with Solomon and Golda!) and the Mayan Civilization.
 
Ah, in my opinion, the Zulu and the North American cultures didn't form an organized and solid net of cities, and, although they are interesting, shouldn't be added since we put first another ones wich were much more advanced.
And would be cool if we could download civs from Internet, when the expansion finishes.
 
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