Gunpowder Units

[Fanatic Demon]

My suggestion is to give every gun poweder unit a 15% attack city bonus. That way, infantry becomes a more cost efective method when attacking cities over cavalry and tanks

 

[Anaztazioch]

They are allready not affected by walls. That lowers defanders strength by 50% (still they have 50% bonus from culture, but 100% bonus from castle is lost).

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

Instead having Red Coats replace Musketmen or Riflemen, make them a unit that apperars between the 2 units. I think if riflemen as US Civil War to end of WWI. Musketmen early adoption of gunpowder to riflemen.

cya, Rob

IMHO, too, there should be an intermediate upgrade for gunpowder units covering the period from 30 Years War to Crimean War, including Napoleonic Era. Those should look like Redcoats and be called Fusilier or Line Infantry. It should have graphics of arquebusier (not really a fitting name for the guy) from here http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=166690

Suggested stats: Cost 115, Strength 12, +100% vs. melee units, +25% vs. mounted (introduction of bayonet). Maybe +10% defence on plains and grasslands (!) to reflect the love for using formations and manoeuvers during the age - flat terrain is most suited for this kind of warfare.

Comes with Chemistry (or else make a separate tech, called wheel lock that requires it, and is also a prerequisite to rifling), Grenadier gets a +50% bonus against those too.
Probably Rifling should require Steel, as Riflemen are supposed to come a bit later now.

Make Redcoats a unique version of those, with Strength 14 and +50% against either mounted units or grenadiers (Waterloo).

Rename musketmen to arquebusiers to reflect that they no longer reflect XV- early XIX century, but only XV-early XVII.

 

[Vertico]

This idea I also like

 

[funkymunky]

I think technically, riflemen are supposed to be the type of infantry unit from Napoleon era to end of American Civil war. After that you have machine gunners and infantry. Machine gunners would be post Amer Civil war until end of WWI, while infantry made more of an appearance around Spanish American war until after WWII, when marines and SAM infantry would become more prevalent - and tanks. I tend to think of musketmen as first appearing in the 1300's and lasting until early 1700's.

And, is it just me, or does it seem weird that frigates appear before cannons? I mean, what were they attacking with if not cannons?

 

[None_Existant]

Oh no worries, they just havn't figured out how to mount the gun on wheels yet

 

[Anaztazioch]

I allways resarch engeinering THAN gunpowder, so i get cannons same time as frigates.