Hellenistic Times Scenario

Etaira i trust also comes from companionship, which would be obvious in the meaning ;) But it isnt the same word as etairos.

hoplites= hoplites ( :lol: ) but it is pronounced differently in greek. You could also have it as 'hoplitai' if you want to show that it is in greek.
Different nation states had different names for their heavy hoplites. The spartans were called omoioi i think. Athenian were argyraspides, the theban phalanx post peloponnesian war was the 'sacred band' (ieros lochos).
 
Is there any way to crop the map, because I´ve made it too big (it should include Nubia and Bactria if keep the dimensions I´m using now?) without starting all over again?
 
varwnos said:
The spartans were called omoioi i think.
The omoioi (homoioi) were the Spartans proper ("Spartiates"), exclusive of the Perioeci ("perioikoi" in Greek, I suppose) and Helots. Of course, not all Lacedaemonian hoplites were Spartans.

There's at least one camel resource around. I'll be looking in a minute.

Edit: Nicked a camel from the WHmod:
 

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Thanks for the camels thing.
The Last Conformist said:
The omoioi (homoioi) were the Spartans proper ("Spartiates"), exclusive of the Perioeci ("perioikoi" in Greek, I suppose) and Helots. Of course, not all Lacedaemonian hoplites were Spartans.
The homoioi were the "equals" i.e. those who had a right to vote, were part of the army, and were considered human beings.
The periekoi were those living in the outskirts, they paid relatively smalll taxes and were free men, had some basic rights, and sometimes were part of the army.
The Helots were slaves of the state, they didn´t have any rights, not even the right of living, and were allowed to live just because the homoioi were too lazy to feed themselves.
 
Chack the first post (updated) for the map so far.
 
It's true :( Ancient Sparta must have been a very strange place. It wasnt very much like the rest of the ancient greek world. I have heard from somewhere that there were even special 'games' of initiation, where young spartan citizents were hunting down helots (although i am not at all sure that this was the case. It could have been like that though).
What definately was happening was the throwing of 'imperfect' children from cliffs in the Taygetos mountain.
Sparta had no philosophy or theatre, and probably painting wasnt developed either. Corinth and Sikyon were leading cultural powers in the Peloponnesos, and also Elis was culturally superior (the olympic games were held in its territory, in Olympia, and at one time the Eleans even forbid spartans to take part in the games, which was considered a great insult).
Nearby Argos was also a militaristic state, but it would appear that it was more reasonable, and most of the other peloponnesian states sought alliances with Argos instead of Sparta. Argos also had some cultural singificance, as home of the Nemean games (in Nemea), and also since the ancient mycenian cities of Tiryns and Mycenae were in its territory.
 
I have heard from somewhere that there were even special 'games' of initiation, where young spartan citizents were hunting down helots (although i am not at all sure that this was the case. It could have been like that though).
That one appears to be true.

I believe some of the Cretan cities had Spartan-like social systems.
 
Probably you are confusing them with the "taurokatharpsia" games, which werent violent though. Ancient Crete appears to have been a peace-loving civ.
 
The Last Conformist said:
Ancient Crete wasn't one civ. The Minoans were quite different from the Doric cities of the Archaic period, frex.

in the old days people used to cut pieces off newspapers, if they saw something strange, and glued them on album pages.
Nowdays one can preserve a weird quote, tone and all ;)
 
Well, I´ve downloaded MapTweak so going to do a little experimenting.
I´m gonna start doing southern Egypt, Mesopotamia, and Armenia. I hope I´ll be able to finish in a few hours.
 
Check the updated first post for a more advanced version of the map.
 
Hey, I´ve finished the map (look at the first post), very soon I´ll have it resized with Map tweak and I´ll start adding the missing resources
 
Well, I´ve been thinking about it and decided that, perhaps, instead of putting a Greek nation, we could put many Greek city-states grouped in a locked alliance, the Aetolian League.
 
Takhisis said:
I´ve been thinking about it
Dad was peering over my shpoulder while I wrote that and said that i coulñdn´t be thinking, only stinking. :lol:
 
varwnos said:
How old are you? :)
I´m fifteen years old.
You could have the aetolian league, the achaean league, some city states in asia minor, macedonia, and the rest
the two leagues, which states did each one include?
 
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