Historical Spawn Dates
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Settler maps would rename the cities if settled somewhere else, and could help prevent civs from settling strange places.
Erudain
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Great work.....now if you could find a way to force the AI to settle their cities where they actually are on those simulated turns as in RFC I would go crazy and not leave my house for days.
Or at least not moving into another Civ. spawn area.
Tested it last night playing as Japan, and China settled Shangai at Seoul spawn point, when Korea spawned, they were inside Shangai's culture borders and coudn't settle.
Also, Istambul doesn't spawn on its actual location, it spawns like 3 or 4 hexes to the east, not on the bosphorus strait....it this because it share's the spawn location with Byzantium?
Or at least not moving into another Civ. spawn area.
Tested it last night playing as Japan, and China settled Shangai at Seoul spawn point, when Korea spawned, they were inside Shangai's culture borders and coudn't settle.
Also, Istambul doesn't spawn on its actual location, it spawns like 3 or 4 hexes to the east, not on the bosphorus strait....it this because it share's the spawn location with Byzantium?
ho, thanks, I think you were right about Sweden barbarian, range is too big, formula should be
not
Value are set in Defines.Lua
Code:
local range = Round(CONVERT_BARBARIAN_RANGE * math.max(((g_Era + 1) * CONVERT_ERA_RANGE_MOD / 100), 1) * GetConvertionRangePercent(playerID) / 100)not
Code:
local range = Round(CONVERT_BARBARIAN_RANGE * math.max((g_Era + 1 * CONVERT_ERA_RANGE_MOD / 100), 1) * GetConvertionRangePercent(playerID) / 100)Value are set in Defines.Lua
Care to explain that formula then? I have discovered a "fix" to the settlers not settling in the right place. It seems whenever the AI converts barbarians that are a little far away (ie, 2 hexes or so) it discovers more of the map for em, and potentially better spots for cities. This causes them to move their settlers in that direction rather then settling in the correct capital location.
I propose that you make it convert only a 1 hex radius (including the one that they spawn on) that away this doesn't happen. Could you explain your formula a little better, as it looks completely different then the past ones?
I propose that you make it convert only a 1 hex radius (including the one that they spawn on) that away this doesn't happen. Could you explain your formula a little better, as it looks completely different then the past ones?
v.4 use that (in HSD_Functions.lua, the comment in Defines.lua is just a reminder):
Values are in Defines.lua
And g_Era is the highest era reached by any player
Era values are:
GetConvertionRangePercent is used to lower the range of barbarians conversion for spawning CS.
Say you're civilization is spawning, and the most advanced civ in game is in Renaissance era (=3)
GetConvertionRangePercent for a major civ is 100, so the range would be:
range = Round(CONVERT_BARBARIAN_RANGE * math.max((g_Era + 1 * CONVERT_ERA_RANGE_MOD / 100), 1)
->
range = Round(4 * math.max((3 + 1 * 45 / 100), 1)
->
range = Round(4 * math.max(3.45, 1)
->
range = Round(4 * 3.45) = 14
(In next version it will be range = Round(4 * math.max(((3 + 1) * 45 / 100), 1) = 7)
Code:
local range = Round(CONVERT_BARBARIAN_RANGE * math.max((g_Era + 1 * CONVERT_ERA_RANGE_MOD / 100), 1) * GetConvertionRangePercent(playerID) / 100)Values are in Defines.lua
Code:
[B]CONVERT_BARBARIAN_RANGE[/B] = 4
[B]CONVERT_ERA_RANGE_MOD[/B] = 45And g_Era is the highest era reached by any player
Era values are:
Code:
ANCIENT = 0
CLASSICAL = 1
MEDIEVAL = 2
RENAISSANCE = 3
INDUSTRIAL = 4
MODERN = 5
POST_MODERN = 6
FUTURE = 7GetConvertionRangePercent is used to lower the range of barbarians conversion for spawning CS.
Say you're civilization is spawning, and the most advanced civ in game is in Renaissance era (=3)
GetConvertionRangePercent for a major civ is 100, so the range would be:
range = Round(CONVERT_BARBARIAN_RANGE * math.max((g_Era + 1 * CONVERT_ERA_RANGE_MOD / 100), 1)
->
range = Round(4 * math.max((3 + 1 * 45 / 100), 1)
->
range = Round(4 * math.max(3.45, 1)
->
range = Round(4 * 3.45) = 14
(In next version it will be range = Round(4 * math.max(((3 + 1) * 45 / 100), 1) = 7)
use this
edit:
or as the v.4 formula is wrong, simply change
to
Code:
CONVERT_BARBARIAN_RANGE = 1
CONVERT_ERA_RANGE_MOD = 0edit:
or as the v.4 formula is wrong, simply change
Code:
local range = Round(CONVERT_BARBARIAN_RANGE * math.max((g_Era + 1 * CONVERT_ERA_RANGE_MOD / 100), 1) * GetConvertionRangePercent(playerID) / 100)to
Code:
local range = 1the new one, but see my edit.
Confirmed, and only using a 1 hex radius makes for really difficult starts. Especially since I am using a mod that makes barbarians smarter.
It's really hard to balance out the game with the unpredictability of the AI. My proposal is:
Somehow make sure that the first city is always built in the default spawn position. If this doesn't happen, it makes for some very weird spawning of other civs. If the celts settle too far down, England has very little chance of surviving. The only way I know of doing this late game (when civs spawn in other civs culture) is to make sure that whatever block they spawn on is converted to their culture. Settlers maps would be nice, but I think it takes away a dynamic element to some extent.
It's really hard to balance out the game with the unpredictability of the AI. My proposal is:
Somehow make sure that the first city is always built in the default spawn position. If this doesn't happen, it makes for some very weird spawning of other civs. If the celts settle too far down, England has very little chance of surviving. The only way I know of doing this late game (when civs spawn in other civs culture) is to make sure that whatever block they spawn on is converted to their culture. Settlers maps would be nice, but I think it takes away a dynamic element to some extent.
