Holland refuses turkish FM to enter country, Erdogan retaliates calling dutch ministers nazis
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hush .
and , bah . No surprises in the journo who has anyone arrested by tweeting says they have won but they have to be prepared for war . Al Crusading , known as Jazeraa and a balanced voice in the English world stresses some stuff will not be applicable until 2019 and the PM calls for the foreign countries to accept that he won . Now that Turkish nationals can be handled by the police . Yeah , the A-K-P rules for 14 15 years on the strength of the vote , which obviously really exists . Obviously . Don't know why they insist on breaking laws and the lot , then . Some MP , a most loud spokesperson in favour of the conspiracies of the Congregation , pictures his vote in the booth and tweets it . Only because it's banned by law and he has to prove that he can . The law says unstamped envelopes and votes are not acceptable . When the voting starts the relevant commission says there have been idiots at the polling stations who forgot to stamp them . In the interests of Democracy , they will have to be valid . Which "allows" the Opposition to suggest that are a million and a half of them . Which then can be distributed according to the needs . This morning the number is 2.5 millions . The seperatists say their "projections" suggest a 56% NO . This is the reason for the call to be ready for war ; despite they know it best that they will not have the people behind them . This is how things work , scaring others in submission and getting away with more in each challenge .
so , if that happens a tip for the hundreds of Congregation F-16 pilots . Wear USAF uniforms and names and Stars and Bars on the planes , so that you will be covered by the Geneva Convention at least .
I am a Turkish.
Be warned that many people including me hate Erdoğan.I woke up early in the morning to use my vote 'No' for the election.
I really feel uncomfortable about our foreing politics,Erdoğan all damaged aour relationship with Europe,all Europe is hating us because of his pointless attitudes towards European countries such as Netherlands and Germany.
We can do nothing about this,ignorant people say 'yes' for him and enlighted,university graduated and reading,asking searching for answer people says 'No' to him. All judgement,our public foundations are servants of him,they have the power of police,armed forces and people against him can't even open their mouth to criticize him.
Sorry,our secular and democratic regime is dying.
Hope,i die until more things happen. I don't want to see them.
Be warned that many people including me hate Erdoğan.I woke up early in the morning to use my vote 'No' for the election.
I really feel uncomfortable about our foreing politics,Erdoğan all damaged aour relationship with Europe,all Europe is hating us because of his pointless attitudes towards European countries such as Netherlands and Germany.
We can do nothing about this,ignorant people say 'yes' for him and enlighted,university graduated and reading,asking searching for answer people says 'No' to him. All judgement,our public foundations are servants of him,they have the power of police,armed forces and people against him can't even open their mouth to criticize him.
Sorry,our secular and democratic regime is dying.
Hope,i die until more things happen. I don't want to see them.
What is problem is that during Erdogan´s era there is a objectively economic growth and simple people see rather as result of restrictive government than free market. What is real mistake of west is that Erdogan achieved more submission from EU than would any less insane Turkish politician achieve. Some commentators say that for western governments its more simple deal with idiotic dictators than with democratic governments, but IMHO sacrifice of only positive example in muslim world is short-sighted.
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"the only positive example in the Muslim World" is BS invented by the US . A-K-P was amazing in the beginning when properly handled by the "Foreigners" to attract votes , "install" Democracy and totally destroy any power structure that might have resisted dishonour , death that kind of stuff when the time for the Civil War came . This country would have exactly the same in whatever and whenever if that direction was kept .
you are totally wrong . Everybody knows what happened . As long as America and the rest can be deterred from poking their noses in the affairs of the country , meaning the Civil War be averted , it's only downhill .
and the chart disproves a thing in what's about to come but ı will not edit it out .
you are totally wrong . Everybody knows what happened . As long as America and the rest can be deterred from poking their noses in the affairs of the country , meaning the Civil War be averted , it's only downhill .
and the chart disproves a thing in what's about to come but ı will not edit it out .
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am like 46 or something , obviously aware of dozens of elections , referandums , stuff in some 3 decades and a half , right ? Never ever heard a foreign entity declaring 5% of the vote is "suspect" , that 2.5 million ı mentioned on Monday . Some European security co-operation treaty stuff , don't know its initials in English ... Fraud was always there perhaps , the mayor of Ankara ever famous for thousands of votes half burned in garbage bins , the Leftists offering this as proof that his garbage collecting was bunk anyhow and he describing it as lies . Almost as an excuse for Sunday , there are references to 1982 Constitution accepted in a referandum where the envelopes were extremely thin and the NO vote being an extremely dark colour . ı leave it to a seperatist , that in the Junta years of 1980s they would have 15 minutes to talk and defend themselves in court and the Democratic 2010s cut that down to 5 . As usual , the best tales come from the East , where this location with 32 ballot boxes produced a given number of votes , with every single person perfectly managing to vote . If you are to report me for insuniating that Kurds are between apes and more regular humans , this really isn't the case ... There might be too much ink on the stamp and putting it into the envelope too quick will only smear the paper and your choice will be wasted . And of course , you have no need to ask that whether there was a single NO among those perfectly cast votes ...
courtesy of Sunni Kurds' party ; which tended to work as the recruitment offices for ISIL in its heyday , previously more related for acid throwing on to the faces of uncovered schoolgirls and corpses with hands and legs tied together "pigstyle" and thus buried . The case of papers already marked YES is probably also from the East , where the "power" of the State makes it easier . No State official could oppose that , the area being a "terror zone" and assassinations "taking" place . In the West , on the hand , the worst that can happen is getting "exiled" to the East . Even the proof of the illegality the unstamped envelopes is from there . See , in 2014 in a little town , the seperatist candidate won by 32 votes . Apparently there were 4 recounts , all of which failed to spot any more votes with too much ink and the lot . But there was one event ! Either an envelope or the paper not stamped by the authorities , hence illegal . The election was repeated - that it was won by the seperatist once again is like totally unrelevant . The very same official who decreed the elections would be repeated due to that single unstamped vote , whites in his hair , says those 2.5 million votes of today are legal , despite the clear laws that they are not . Because some village idiot surely didn't read the rules and failed to stamp the lot before voting started . Reportedly in the East where the AK-47 power holds sway . Some guy is in the news , pictured with the actual rifle in hand he brags , "his" ballot box of 309 votes is 100% YES . An apparent attempt in Istanbul to steal the votes in transport to a relevant collection center was repelled by the Police firing in the air and calling for reinforcements on the "wireless" , the footage was in the news last night .
this thread has seen repeated references to the high numbers of people arrested in Turkey . The number is surely not enough , 200-300 hundred thousands more would have enabled a "fair" affair ... ı do not have a single doubt that the guy in question was found "acceptable" by the Congregation , after so many years of service to the State that made his hair white . Sure enough , an Islamist "journalist" who ractically brags of taking the orders to the Syria to start the war after months of "peaceful" protests says , it's a Congregation trick and the white hair guy will surely go to jail , if he tries to reverse now .
is this a rant of the defeated ? Losers who can never win ? People who can not see the wisdom in the idea that this country will play the 3 monkeys when charged with an unfair referandum and it was more democratic than anything that ever took place in the West ? Places like America and Europe ? Why do ı care , when "let them rot" is a time honoured practice ? The much abused September 12 Coup of 1980 , created a robbers' economy that diverted so much wealth to the "Democrats" of today and the seperatists' grassroots support was intentionally created by forcing people to eat human excrement in jail . Those people who smirk , even laugh at the reports of "not fair" are absolutely unaware that they are the end result of 40 years of Social Engineering , with America discovering teeth in 1974 and its aftermath . They think the half hearted "opposition" from the West is proof that they are lions and the like , destined to rule the world .
and everybody knows it , too . And they welcome it , the Counter-Revolution and the way it "transforms" the country . They see no wrong in the wrongs committed . They think the non-stop "defeats" of the West to "topple the new Turkey" proves the latter is here to stay . It's fuzzily warm , let the world dabble in Industry 4.0 or whatever the hell , the New Turkey will soon grab a couple of oil wells and money will flow . They will live like the Arabs . All they have to do is vote whatever they are told to vote and aid and abet in the suppression of whatever terrorists that might unwisely attempt to oppose . Of course nobody is currently asking people to do stuff , but this Wednesday might as well have been the first day of the Civil War , had it turned a 51% NO . They won't believe in this , just like they self justified the Congregation's outrages . They are not to believe this , just like Congregation members arrest other Congregation members on trumped up charges and fill the jails to match the phrase canned like sardines . They won't believe in this , just like they have already accepted the authorianism should rule the country . They will be parts of the system , cogs , nuts and bolts , mastered by people perhaps - but still better than losers . The people will be satisfied by being superior to those who don't see the light . The phrase in Turkish is saadet zinciri , but the pyramid makes more sense , power concentrated in the very top . And yet , if something happens the pyramid will come crumbling down . There were questions of when the PM would cry on TV , as is the custom , days before any vote . Because the Voice of Russia asked the question of "When" , some Goverment Minister did instead , reading some letter from an orphan of a Martyr . We are still waiting for the former Minister of Energy to seek martyrdom in combat , as he was claiming he wanted so much , with his 50 bodyguards ever ready to intervene if there was the slightest protest . (You see , when the A-K-P was brothers with the seperatists there was an officer killed in the East and an almost racist punched the Minister in the face at the funeral at his hometown .) They are not the ones to fight . They will be cheering on those people who now laugh at the cries of "unfair" . Not a single smart person will be in danger when something happens . It will be those who have accepted to be the nuts and bolts . Persons who will come out to teach manners to those below them in the "zincir" , the pyramid .
and am really irritated by the lack of percentage from glorious Luxembourg . Germany and the Netherlands produced a solid 60% . America's paltry 32% or so is proof that everybody in the Congregation has moved there . Even the incredible 20 percents from places like Qatar is easily understandable , people working there have a first hand experience of living under "oil wealth" . Under 600 registered voters , 9700 votes cast and we know Luxembourg voted YES , but how many ? Why not make yours idiotly turn purple ?
and of course knowing it very well that the lions are not as strong as they are needed to be , lots of empty words from the West . The New Turkey will not survive a week of a real economic crisis ; and the Economist says the country can not be allowed to fail . Most interested to read that piece , because you see , the local correspondent of years back was a woman that appeared on TV regularly , to cheer the arrest of any Kemalist animal . Banned from entering the country for choosing the Congregation , ı don't think she would ever say Turkey would survive , in case she's still with the Economist . The pinnacle of the yellow journalism , in various pages , says the future is bright and people have shown courage and they might win the next election . As if there won't be 5 million unstamped envelopes then . Or a real economic crisis , only after A-K-P lost ? Will not otherwise happen ; some rating agency , those under the thumb of the global Zionist Conspiracy if you have never heard of them credit agencies , says the undemocratic stuff is bad , but the singularity of management will allow "reforms" ... You see , robbing Turkey is a whole time job , it can't be allowed to lapse .
and it also explodes at the seams . The reason for the millions of unstamped envelopes seems to be the rumours that a YES was worth up to 400 Turkish liras , almost 100 Euros . The party guy gives you the marked YES vote , you go to polling station , you are given the vote , envelope and the marker . You use the marked one and return the regular one to the party guy . 680 or so ballot boxes have reached the perfect score , 100 % of people voting and all of them YES , quite a few in the West , too . The boxes are arranged to have 400 to 425 voters each , in the urban areas , naturally lower in the countryside . You vote and sign next to your name . So another amazing glory of the Turkish democracy , records show some hundreds of people who voted in the same box share the same signature and they are perfectly in sync to sign in the same exact way . Or something ... Talking of voters per ballot box a guy from the Main Opposition says some ballot boxes have 400 names signed and yet contain around 375 votes . Naturally in areas you would expect denizens to vote NO . The teenagers of this country have known no Goverment other than A-K-P but have heard a lot of the honour and integrity of the Right Wing voters ; if they pay any attention to politics . The heroic case of 1946 where in some village the women steal and hide the ballot box , citing it's their honour . And yet people try stuff , even in the West , without the AK-47 Power . Votes counted in the open and everybody knows it's 275 NO votes in that box and the people are recording the numbers officially and the guy "mistakenly" says 175 ... And still makes faces when his attention is drawn to the fact . This is the "heroism" thing , people start to believe they can walk on water after spending years to convince everybody else that they can . And that their opponents can not , however hard they might try . Anyone who would prefer a Civil War should remember this , but then they can walk on the water , right ?
thus the expected response . The Europeans are politically motivated , the referandum was most democratic despite the European lies to the effect that it was not . The Europeans are even insulting this country , that they even are claiming Turkey does not have institutions for Democracy . A lie , now that A-K-P democratically won in 2002 ... ı don't know why there wasn't a single claim of the then Goverment , the godless Coalition , stealing the Vote back then ...
courtesy of Sunni Kurds' party ; which tended to work as the recruitment offices for ISIL in its heyday , previously more related for acid throwing on to the faces of uncovered schoolgirls and corpses with hands and legs tied together "pigstyle" and thus buried . The case of papers already marked YES is probably also from the East , where the "power" of the State makes it easier . No State official could oppose that , the area being a "terror zone" and assassinations "taking" place . In the West , on the hand , the worst that can happen is getting "exiled" to the East . Even the proof of the illegality the unstamped envelopes is from there . See , in 2014 in a little town , the seperatist candidate won by 32 votes . Apparently there were 4 recounts , all of which failed to spot any more votes with too much ink and the lot . But there was one event ! Either an envelope or the paper not stamped by the authorities , hence illegal . The election was repeated - that it was won by the seperatist once again is like totally unrelevant . The very same official who decreed the elections would be repeated due to that single unstamped vote , whites in his hair , says those 2.5 million votes of today are legal , despite the clear laws that they are not . Because some village idiot surely didn't read the rules and failed to stamp the lot before voting started . Reportedly in the East where the AK-47 power holds sway . Some guy is in the news , pictured with the actual rifle in hand he brags , "his" ballot box of 309 votes is 100% YES . An apparent attempt in Istanbul to steal the votes in transport to a relevant collection center was repelled by the Police firing in the air and calling for reinforcements on the "wireless" , the footage was in the news last night .
this thread has seen repeated references to the high numbers of people arrested in Turkey . The number is surely not enough , 200-300 hundred thousands more would have enabled a "fair" affair ... ı do not have a single doubt that the guy in question was found "acceptable" by the Congregation , after so many years of service to the State that made his hair white . Sure enough , an Islamist "journalist" who ractically brags of taking the orders to the Syria to start the war after months of "peaceful" protests says , it's a Congregation trick and the white hair guy will surely go to jail , if he tries to reverse now .
is this a rant of the defeated ? Losers who can never win ? People who can not see the wisdom in the idea that this country will play the 3 monkeys when charged with an unfair referandum and it was more democratic than anything that ever took place in the West ? Places like America and Europe ? Why do ı care , when "let them rot" is a time honoured practice ? The much abused September 12 Coup of 1980 , created a robbers' economy that diverted so much wealth to the "Democrats" of today and the seperatists' grassroots support was intentionally created by forcing people to eat human excrement in jail . Those people who smirk , even laugh at the reports of "not fair" are absolutely unaware that they are the end result of 40 years of Social Engineering , with America discovering teeth in 1974 and its aftermath . They think the half hearted "opposition" from the West is proof that they are lions and the like , destined to rule the world .
and everybody knows it , too . And they welcome it , the Counter-Revolution and the way it "transforms" the country . They see no wrong in the wrongs committed . They think the non-stop "defeats" of the West to "topple the new Turkey" proves the latter is here to stay . It's fuzzily warm , let the world dabble in Industry 4.0 or whatever the hell , the New Turkey will soon grab a couple of oil wells and money will flow . They will live like the Arabs . All they have to do is vote whatever they are told to vote and aid and abet in the suppression of whatever terrorists that might unwisely attempt to oppose . Of course nobody is currently asking people to do stuff , but this Wednesday might as well have been the first day of the Civil War , had it turned a 51% NO . They won't believe in this , just like they self justified the Congregation's outrages . They are not to believe this , just like Congregation members arrest other Congregation members on trumped up charges and fill the jails to match the phrase canned like sardines . They won't believe in this , just like they have already accepted the authorianism should rule the country . They will be parts of the system , cogs , nuts and bolts , mastered by people perhaps - but still better than losers . The people will be satisfied by being superior to those who don't see the light . The phrase in Turkish is saadet zinciri , but the pyramid makes more sense , power concentrated in the very top . And yet , if something happens the pyramid will come crumbling down . There were questions of when the PM would cry on TV , as is the custom , days before any vote . Because the Voice of Russia asked the question of "When" , some Goverment Minister did instead , reading some letter from an orphan of a Martyr . We are still waiting for the former Minister of Energy to seek martyrdom in combat , as he was claiming he wanted so much , with his 50 bodyguards ever ready to intervene if there was the slightest protest . (You see , when the A-K-P was brothers with the seperatists there was an officer killed in the East and an almost racist punched the Minister in the face at the funeral at his hometown .) They are not the ones to fight . They will be cheering on those people who now laugh at the cries of "unfair" . Not a single smart person will be in danger when something happens . It will be those who have accepted to be the nuts and bolts . Persons who will come out to teach manners to those below them in the "zincir" , the pyramid .
and am really irritated by the lack of percentage from glorious Luxembourg . Germany and the Netherlands produced a solid 60% . America's paltry 32% or so is proof that everybody in the Congregation has moved there . Even the incredible 20 percents from places like Qatar is easily understandable , people working there have a first hand experience of living under "oil wealth" . Under 600 registered voters , 9700 votes cast and we know Luxembourg voted YES , but how many ? Why not make yours idiotly turn purple ?
and of course knowing it very well that the lions are not as strong as they are needed to be , lots of empty words from the West . The New Turkey will not survive a week of a real economic crisis ; and the Economist says the country can not be allowed to fail . Most interested to read that piece , because you see , the local correspondent of years back was a woman that appeared on TV regularly , to cheer the arrest of any Kemalist animal . Banned from entering the country for choosing the Congregation , ı don't think she would ever say Turkey would survive , in case she's still with the Economist . The pinnacle of the yellow journalism , in various pages , says the future is bright and people have shown courage and they might win the next election . As if there won't be 5 million unstamped envelopes then . Or a real economic crisis , only after A-K-P lost ? Will not otherwise happen ; some rating agency , those under the thumb of the global Zionist Conspiracy if you have never heard of them credit agencies , says the undemocratic stuff is bad , but the singularity of management will allow "reforms" ... You see , robbing Turkey is a whole time job , it can't be allowed to lapse .
and it also explodes at the seams . The reason for the millions of unstamped envelopes seems to be the rumours that a YES was worth up to 400 Turkish liras , almost 100 Euros . The party guy gives you the marked YES vote , you go to polling station , you are given the vote , envelope and the marker . You use the marked one and return the regular one to the party guy . 680 or so ballot boxes have reached the perfect score , 100 % of people voting and all of them YES , quite a few in the West , too . The boxes are arranged to have 400 to 425 voters each , in the urban areas , naturally lower in the countryside . You vote and sign next to your name . So another amazing glory of the Turkish democracy , records show some hundreds of people who voted in the same box share the same signature and they are perfectly in sync to sign in the same exact way . Or something ... Talking of voters per ballot box a guy from the Main Opposition says some ballot boxes have 400 names signed and yet contain around 375 votes . Naturally in areas you would expect denizens to vote NO . The teenagers of this country have known no Goverment other than A-K-P but have heard a lot of the honour and integrity of the Right Wing voters ; if they pay any attention to politics . The heroic case of 1946 where in some village the women steal and hide the ballot box , citing it's their honour . And yet people try stuff , even in the West , without the AK-47 Power . Votes counted in the open and everybody knows it's 275 NO votes in that box and the people are recording the numbers officially and the guy "mistakenly" says 175 ... And still makes faces when his attention is drawn to the fact . This is the "heroism" thing , people start to believe they can walk on water after spending years to convince everybody else that they can . And that their opponents can not , however hard they might try . Anyone who would prefer a Civil War should remember this , but then they can walk on the water , right ?
thus the expected response . The Europeans are politically motivated , the referandum was most democratic despite the European lies to the effect that it was not . The Europeans are even insulting this country , that they even are claiming Turkey does not have institutions for Democracy . A lie , now that A-K-P democratically won in 2002 ... ı don't know why there wasn't a single claim of the then Goverment , the godless Coalition , stealing the Vote back then ...
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man , ı am devastated . America has chosen a leader with wet dreams of fighting a nuclear war ever since his youth and God Gives a chance to do so and what he does ? He says he is sending a carrier battle group to show them Koreans . And where is that fleet ? Thousands of miles away . Exercising with Australians the newspapers tell us mongrel scum of the world . What ı wanna know is which ship Carl Vinson was to replace as that advanced forward in case something untoward , say , just say , a NO was to come in an unsavoury corner of the world . Of course a CVN will sweep the floor with any number of Orientals and presumably one in the Med would do , but in terms of flight safety and the lot , those heroic warriors of Christendom work in shifts . Say , mightnight to noon for the first and the noon to midnight for the second . Apparently catapults and landings make sleep quite impossible during cycles .
so , there is no end to the wonders of the Turkish Democracy . NGOs have identified up to 2700 or 2800 ballot boxes with more results than you could get in any loser Western country . Say , if there are 400 registered voters for a box , you get 425 votes out of it . Disproves my long cherished belief that no mecahnism could work with 100% and more efficiency . Now , it's the turn of the engineers of New Turkey to devise the Unity Engine , that draws energy from the void , creating power out of nothing to propel UFOs all over the universe . For people can not help noticing that they have also discovering beamin people around . Say , 80 people are in the West as "seasonal workers" and they have "voted" in the East , a full day of bus trip one way . According to their written account they gave to the courts . Seems their village was promised an hall for funerals . This is something new or something here . in that those who come to console the grieving family members will at times have trouble if the house is small and the number of relatives big . While the hall could presumably seat 50 at once or something . Yeah , 200 votes in an area where the people are seperatist enough to go to court that 80 of them surely didn't vote for the A-K-P . Which will quickly turn out to be wrong . See , the next day's newspaper will have detailed . 370 registered votes in that box or something . 385 votes come out of it and 350 or so are the true ones , meaning those stamped for YES .
even better are the impartial observers . Everybody knows there will be fraud as there has always been and the Party fail to win . So , this European Parliament Commission sends in like 70 observers . With 9 of them being "partial" to the seperatists , like making speeches in their rallies behind what people claim are seperatist "flags" . So that current Foreign Minister and former leader of that Commission can claim the observers are impartial and their work is worthless . This being the first time that they will obviously report that the vote was not fair . The British , ı think in a newspaper , have observed it wouldn't have passed the muster no matter who made the checks , but Brexit makes them accept all business opportunities . Check another box for Capitalism as the experts of New Turkey is playing even the Soros angle , some dude who starts Colour Revolutions all over the place and singularly fails to manage one here ... Do not believe losers who will claim A-K-P is a splendid example of what he does behind closed doors .
so , there is no end to the wonders of the Turkish Democracy . NGOs have identified up to 2700 or 2800 ballot boxes with more results than you could get in any loser Western country . Say , if there are 400 registered voters for a box , you get 425 votes out of it . Disproves my long cherished belief that no mecahnism could work with 100% and more efficiency . Now , it's the turn of the engineers of New Turkey to devise the Unity Engine , that draws energy from the void , creating power out of nothing to propel UFOs all over the universe . For people can not help noticing that they have also discovering beamin people around . Say , 80 people are in the West as "seasonal workers" and they have "voted" in the East , a full day of bus trip one way . According to their written account they gave to the courts . Seems their village was promised an hall for funerals . This is something new or something here . in that those who come to console the grieving family members will at times have trouble if the house is small and the number of relatives big . While the hall could presumably seat 50 at once or something . Yeah , 200 votes in an area where the people are seperatist enough to go to court that 80 of them surely didn't vote for the A-K-P . Which will quickly turn out to be wrong . See , the next day's newspaper will have detailed . 370 registered votes in that box or something . 385 votes come out of it and 350 or so are the true ones , meaning those stamped for YES .
even better are the impartial observers . Everybody knows there will be fraud as there has always been and the Party fail to win . So , this European Parliament Commission sends in like 70 observers . With 9 of them being "partial" to the seperatists , like making speeches in their rallies behind what people claim are seperatist "flags" . So that current Foreign Minister and former leader of that Commission can claim the observers are impartial and their work is worthless . This being the first time that they will obviously report that the vote was not fair . The British , ı think in a newspaper , have observed it wouldn't have passed the muster no matter who made the checks , but Brexit makes them accept all business opportunities . Check another box for Capitalism as the experts of New Turkey is playing even the Soros angle , some dude who starts Colour Revolutions all over the place and singularly fails to manage one here ... Do not believe losers who will claim A-K-P is a splendid example of what he does behind closed doors .
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Please turn trust filter down and paranoia filter up and read.
http://www.americainwwii.com/articles/pattons-ghost-army/
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the first time ı ever heard the idea was that Hollywood production where they got their gramophones or whatever and simulated tanks and the lot and some German infantry patrol came up to see what was up ; so that the moviegoers could see a firefight . It really stands , too . While this New Turkey proves even its anti-Semitism is fake .They want to "reach out" to the West and this tweeting moutpiece of the PM calls the people of the Mavi Marmara "maniacs" . He then appears on TV and this very brave anchor practically trembles as ther mouthpiece teaches the mediacrew of the Little Imperialist their place . Many things are said about this while the conversion about yours idiotly seems to centre about the Dumbo visiting Turkey ; she is readily reported to be rather good looking , too . See , they have to cover all the bases and heroes of like 5 years back are now maniacs .
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Turkey has a Russian Style of government
That dose explain a lot, its only recently that Turkey has moved strongly to the West with its economic and social reforms. Thus the strong economic growth and Germany becoming Turkeys main trade partner.
Now Turkey is once again pulled to the Middle East
That dose explain a lot, its only recently that Turkey has moved strongly to the West with its economic and social reforms. Thus the strong economic growth and Germany becoming Turkeys main trade partner.
Now Turkey is once again pulled to the Middle East
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typically Orientalist . Whatever happening in Turkey is extremely supported and protected by the West . We never hear how necessary this country is to the global well being of the world and yet it always happens when the New Turkey does something naughty , you know , again and again . There's not the slightest rebuke in areas that matter and some French proffessor is always ready to rant on how people should be shot or there should be a Civil War in Turkey . And of course , on the next day ,he will eat all his words , Pavlovian reflex building being the truth , if not entirely politically correct . The world is like totally busy to teach Turks how their destiny is fixed . Follow the PM , or see what happens . The article's "most Turks" will miss the old when they get the full gist of the deal . This could have happened 10 times already since , but the economy , being "incredible" anyhow , is kept afloat . The West wants the crash just in time for the Civil War .
Bombed by whom? The west doesn't bomb Greece (since ww2), not literally, that is. And if you mean by Turkey, here is a very red apple to soothe your hunger
Re Greece gaining anything, if it does it won't be due to taking part in a war (it won't; there is no popular sentiment for war in Greece). If it does (hypothetical anyway) it will just be due to no one else bordering the gained parts anyway. Although there is also Bulgaria, but yeah.
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in case the some EU commission's downgrading of the Turkish Democracy back to the "2nd league" is noticed ...
once there was a guy named Helmut Schmidt and he was a German Chancellor . He offered the unending friendship of Germany to the Russians but there was a snag or two . Americans were like bitter about the way Lord Vader was treated in the Soviets . A brass band andf Kremlin Guards in readiness whenever he showed up in Moscow ; he was just a punk . Even more , only recently updated to consort from escort and he wasn't even born in the days of Kemalist Revolution and all that jazz . GRU politely declined , KGB said "What? We don't know the guy." So , it became the official German policy , you know once again , to support Caveman type Jihadists , as long as they opposed Ankara . The official German papers even ended up in the Turkish Embassy in Bonn or whatever . So , Merkel is rather more likely to answer the claimed German media claims that the New Turkey has asked for economic aid . You know , the first result of referandum is the sale of the State's Tea agency to the Qataris . Or at least pawned for an amount of credits , said to be 650 million US dollars . Not exactly known as the Economy Minister says probably it didn't happen . See , he can't say it didn't happen . Afterall the basic strength of New Turkey is that it's always ready to kill Jews wherever it can reach , so unlike the Germans who are cornered by history . You know , the guys who hinted at the possibility on TV were like defending the reputation of the Turkish Democracy a couple of days back .
and while these unimportant stuff happen , the chief of the aerial branch of the Army of Petrol is in much evidence in news , heroically and handsomely bombing seperatists or something . Can't say whether he will be offended at the lack of visits by the Dumbo and was that it why the jets were overhead yesterday or they are heroically dogfighting the Greeks or something in the Aegean again .
once there was a guy named Helmut Schmidt and he was a German Chancellor . He offered the unending friendship of Germany to the Russians but there was a snag or two . Americans were like bitter about the way Lord Vader was treated in the Soviets . A brass band andf Kremlin Guards in readiness whenever he showed up in Moscow ; he was just a punk . Even more , only recently updated to consort from escort and he wasn't even born in the days of Kemalist Revolution and all that jazz . GRU politely declined , KGB said "What? We don't know the guy." So , it became the official German policy , you know once again , to support Caveman type Jihadists , as long as they opposed Ankara . The official German papers even ended up in the Turkish Embassy in Bonn or whatever . So , Merkel is rather more likely to answer the claimed German media claims that the New Turkey has asked for economic aid . You know , the first result of referandum is the sale of the State's Tea agency to the Qataris . Or at least pawned for an amount of credits , said to be 650 million US dollars . Not exactly known as the Economy Minister says probably it didn't happen . See , he can't say it didn't happen . Afterall the basic strength of New Turkey is that it's always ready to kill Jews wherever it can reach , so unlike the Germans who are cornered by history . You know , the guys who hinted at the possibility on TV were like defending the reputation of the Turkish Democracy a couple of days back .
and while these unimportant stuff happen , the chief of the aerial branch of the Army of Petrol is in much evidence in news , heroically and handsomely bombing seperatists or something . Can't say whether he will be offended at the lack of visits by the Dumbo and was that it why the jets were overhead yesterday or they are heroically dogfighting the Greeks or something in the Aegean again .
