How diverse is civ6?

[Duke William of Normandy]

Yeah no disrespect, I just don't see why they aren't blobbed with the Vikings.

I mean... Blobbing is something I view as lazy. Polynesia, Native Americans, and the Celts are three of the most egregious examples to me. It requires that you ignore the various cultures of the different Civilizations that you have blobbed for the sake of being lazy. That's why I'm glad they avoided blobbing in Civ 6. And anyway, the culture of the Vikings of Sweden and the culture of the Vikings of Norway were two vastly different types of cultures.

 

[The Civs 6]

I would have about 10 civs - I don't think England, USA, New Zealand or Australia should be distinct civs, but should just be a single Anglo civ.

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

Scandinavia was blobbed but people complained about a civ called Vikings, not to mention that the Swedes were the least Viking like compared to their Danish and Norwegian counterparts.

I agree. The Swedes were more or less the traders of the Scandinavians, and the Norse and Danish were the-you know what, you reader can fill in the blanks yourself.

Well, maybe there are ~30-35 civilizations/empires that have had a great global impact, and if we have 48 civilizations at the moment, it would be expected that many of them will not have a such global impact. In addition, if we were to restrict the game to only civs with great global impact, we would always have a game with a maximum of 35 civs and always the same.

Agreed as well. If we're just going by the historical impact of Civilizations, we might as well just do one game and just keep on remaking it, more features being the only new thing added to the game.

 

[Henri Christophe]

I would have about 10 civs - I don't think England, USA, New Zealand or Australia should be distinct civs, but should just be a single Anglo civ.

I totally agree, maybe Civ 7 can do that. Just one big Anglo Saxon civ who start as barbarian on the gate from Rome and go straight to have B-17 Airplanes

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

I would have about 10 civs - I don't think England, USA, New Zealand or Australia should be distinct civs, but should just be a single Anglo civ.

Yeesh... And blech!! That's blobbing to a whole other level, an "Anglo" Civilization that blobs America, Australia, England, and New Zealand is worse than the Native Americans blob in Civ 4. And that says something!

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I mean... Blobbing is something I view as lazy. Polynesia, Native Americans, and the Celts are two of the most egregious examples to me. It requires that you ignore the various cultures of the different Civilizations that you have blobbed for the sake of being lazy. That's why I'm glad they avoided blobbing in Civ 6. And anyway, the culture of the Vikings of Sweden and the culture of the Vikings of Norway were two vastly different types of cultures.

To be honest I never found the Polynesia blob as egregious as the others. Maybe because it was only introduced in Civ 5 and quickly discarded after the fact as an introduction to a new region.
Unlike the Native American blob which they had the Sioux and the Iroqouis as separate civs beforehand, and the Celts which were in 3 games before and focused more on the Pre-Roman abilities until Civ 5 when they got modern city names from Scotland, Wales and Ireland.

I would have about 10 civs - I don't think England, USA, New Zealand or Australia should be distinct civs, but should just be a single Anglo civ.

That's even less than Civ 1 had?

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

To be honest I never found the Polynesia blob as egregious as the others. Maybe because it was only introduced in Civ 5 and quickly discarded after the fact as an introduction to a new region.
Unlike the Native American blob which they had the Sioux and the Iroqouis as separate civs beforehand, and the Celts which were in 3 games before and focused more on the Pre-Roman abilities until Civ 5 when they got modern city names.

And boy, am I glad they did so.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Do we have to do that? Can't we have stuff like sports and video games that are free from the taint?

Only way to do that is to have 100% fictional charters like Starcraft and Warcraft. As soon as you have real life cultures you have an agenda.

I would have about 10 civs - I don't think England, USA, New Zealand or Australia should be distinct civs, but should just be a single Anglo civ.

And All Asia be lumped into one Asian civ? Boy say that to Any Asian and see how they would react. They will want your head.

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

Guys, can we please stick to the subject of "How diverse is Civ 6" and not "Political Agendas, yadayada"? We're going to get this thread closed if we can't stick to the subject matter.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Yeesh... And blech!! That's blobbing to a whole other level, an "Anglo" Civilization that blobs America, Australia, England, and New Zealand is worse than the Native Americans blob in Civ 4. And that says something!

In order to that you would also have to have an "Oriental" faction blobbing China, Japan, Korea and Mongolia.
Not to mention one faction encompassing all of Sub-Sahara Africa and then a separate one for North Africa and the Middle East.

Well that's the opposite of diversity so I guess we answered the question that Civ 6 is pretty diverse by those standards.

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

And All Asia be lumped into one Asian civ? Boy say that to Any Asian and see how they would react. They will want your head.

Worse example: Lumping all of the African Civilizations together into one blob.

In order to that you would also have to have an "Oriental" faction blobbing China, Japan, Korea and Mongolia.
Not to mention one faction encompassing all of Sub-Sahara Africa and then a separate one for North Africa and the Middle East.

Well that's the opposite of diversity so I guess we answered the question that Civ 6 is pretty diverse by those standards.

Oh, dear heavens, those are even worse than the examples I gave. But I guess that does answer the question at hand: Civ 6 is very diverse.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

I totally agree, maybe Civ 7 can do that. Just one big Anglo Saxon civ who start as barbarian on the gate from Rome and go straight to have B-17 Airplanes

Get out. You are not funny

 

[The Civs 6]

Get out. You are not funny

Why is he wrong? We have 6000 years of China blob. Why shouldn't we look at European history the same way?

 

[Henri Christophe]

sorry for my poor english, what means blob you speak that much?

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Why is he wrong? We have 6000 years of China blob. Why shouldn't we look at European history the same way?

???? No we didn't. KOREA, CHINA AND JAPAN ARE VERY DIFFERENT NATION FROM THE GET GO!

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

Why is he wrong? We have 6000 years of China blob. Why shouldn't we look at European history the same way?

There's a difference. The Chinese dynasties kept removing each other and kept on being deposed, but it was still China, just under a different bloodline. The people were still under the Chinese Empire no matter the dynasty in charge.

Saying that the Qin Empire and the Tang Empire are somewhat different is correct. Saying that China is being blobbed is incorrect

sorry for my poor english, what means blob you speak that much?

To blob means to throw together cultures and people who are similar enough into one Civilisation. And you're welcome.

 

[The Civs 6]

I find the civ6's suggestions VERY insulting. We New Zealanders are VERY different from Americans and Australians. The Civ 6 can screw himself.

I'm American and I don't have any problem being blobbed with Canada and New Zealand. I don't see why you have any emotion about how you are portrayed in a video game.

There's a difference. The Chinese dynasties kept removing each other and kept on being deposed, but it was still China, just under a different bloodline. The people were still under the Chinese Empire no matter the dynasty in charge.

Saying that the Qin Empire and the Tang Empire are somewhat different is correct. Saying that China is being blobbed is incorrect

That's just revisionist Chinese propaganda, and I can tell you that as someone who studied China as a major

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

That's just revisionist Chinese propaganda, and I can tell you that as someone who studied China as a major

How is it revisionist? People under the Tang called themselves Chinese. The people under the Qin called themselves Chinese. I can go on and on about this. Dynasties don't change the culture of the people under them.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Dose The Civ 6 even know history or his he speaking from his butt?

I'm American and I don't have any problem being blobbed with Canada and New Zealand. I don't see why you have any emotion about how you are portrayed in a video game.

You are NOT all of American and as a civ fan having a correct representation is a big deal to me. Afterall this forum IS callec civ fanatics. NOT "eh civ is alright group."
Not to mention civ can be a great starting point for history.
Tell me do 90% of Americans like to be mistaken for British people?

 

[The Civs 6]

How is it revisionist? People under the Tang called themselves Chinese. The people under the Qin called themselves Chinese. I can go on and on about this. Dynasties don't change the culture of the people under them.

Byzantines called themselves Roman, the Germans called themselves the Holy Roman Empire - that's not determinative of the issue. And the word for China is Zhongguo - middle kingdom - which is vague and nondescriptive. The most you can say is that the Qin Dynasty is the first clearly Han majority Chinese polity in the area.