Pentium
Digital Matter
To add to the IDE discussion, I use kDevelop on Linux and I like it a lot. It compiles everything by itself (using g++), which I haven't managed to convince Visual Studio to do.
How do I get C++?
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warmwaffles
Programmer
As a Java programmer myself I have grown fond of Eclipse and the one fun/cool program now that I saw a while back was that their is infact an eclipse for C++...I might try it out some time but for now...Java is my home
I'm 99% sure that Visual Studio will only work with Microsoft's compilers.... may be wrong, though.
Asher
Warlord
It can work with other compilers.
Mise
isle of lucy
At school we learnt Pascal first, and IMO it's a great language to learn first. It's "easier" than C++, and certainly throws out nicer error messages, and it still teaches you all the conventions and concepts that learning any other programming language will teach you.
One thing though, DON'T be tempted to learn Visual Basic first
. It teaches you terrible bad habits, and the variable types are very different to most other languages. It lets you get away with a lot of things, which is good if you just want to throw something together quickly, but if you want to learn a language it's absolutely terrible. Imagine a teacher that gave every student an "A" ...
Personally, I learnt C first (although I used a C++ compiler, and cout and cin and all that, I didn't learn about objects and classes until I seriously started getting into VB), which was very difficult to learn from an online tutorial... . After a year or so I was good enough to make cheats for Counterstrike, so it was well worth it 
One thing though, DON'T be tempted to learn Visual Basic first
. It teaches you terrible bad habits, and the variable types are very different to most other languages. It lets you get away with a lot of things, which is good if you just want to throw something together quickly, but if you want to learn a language it's absolutely terrible. Imagine a teacher that gave every student an "A" ...Personally, I learnt C first (although I used a C++ compiler, and cout and cin and all that, I didn't learn about objects and classes until I seriously started getting into VB), which was very difficult to learn from an online tutorial...
. After a year or so I was good enough to make cheats for Counterstrike, so it was well worth it warmwaffles
Programmer
Actually I learned Visual Basic 6 first at my high school last year and then moved onto Java this year. IMHO its ALL about what kind of tutorial or teacher you have that teaches you good programming ethics. Visual Basic 6 was a great stepping stone because it was simplistic in design and taught me the fundamentals of programming which is if you don't know how to do something look it up and don't declare every variable a global variable and get rid of extra crud you don't need.
And cheating on counter strike
not too hard parsay But I still enjoy using Java more than C++ or C because I am comfortable with it, though next year when I go onto Computer Sciences I will be forced to learn it and love it and until then...I'm fine
And cheating on counter strike
not too hard parsay But I still enjoy using Java more than C++ or C because I am comfortable with it, though next year when I go onto Computer Sciences I will be forced to learn it and love it and until then...I'm fine
ParadigmShifter
Random Nonsense Generator
VB.net aint so bad I hear. VB6 is the work of Satan.
I'd still go for Python myself, maybe Java or C#. Being interpreted rather than compiled ala Pascal means you get results from the start (for Python anyway). It's free too, and very powerful language construct wise, it's got some nice LISP like features too.
I'd still go for Python myself, maybe Java or C#. Being interpreted rather than compiled ala Pascal means you get results from the start (for Python anyway). It's free too, and very powerful language construct wise, it's got some nice LISP like features too.
Hehe, why do they want you to program? Taking a computing course at college/uni or something?
C/C++ were the first languages I learned when I was.....12-13 I think. I didn't find them very good to learn though. Maybe you will be different. I found that to progress from Visual Basic to Java was much better, and knowing Java, I am able to make the transition C++ much easier since they are so similar (Java is based upon C++). If this is your first time programming, I would highly recommend you learn something else!
I would also recommend the Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Express suite, which contains IDEs for Visual Basic, C++, C#, J# (basically Java) and web development languages. You'll find them here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/. They are easy to use, and very informative.
It also depends on necessity. Appliance for the computer science studies at Helsinki university require that you use one of certain programming languages, I think there was C, C++, C#, and some others.. But, for example, VBASIC is not allowed.
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