How do resource bonusses really count?

[Killroyan]

Say you are next to a horse and you go to the city screen then you see a horse icon in the right upper corner. When you hoover your mouse over it you will see a +1 hammer show up. Is this an extra bonus your city is getting with the horses or are all cities getting that bonus or does it add nothing to your total output? Same for food bonusses or gold bonusses. I believe it doesn't add a thing but I could be wrong. Can you guys help me with this?

Ok, after some research I think I have already found one part of the answer. It shows the bonus that resource gets and shows it directly in the resources the tile gives. So corn gives 1 food extra but shows it directly by displaying a full bread instead of 4 food.

Now the other part of the question is, do other cities get a food bonus too from that corn or is just for show that you have that resource and you get 1 health from it but not extra food?

 

[shivute]

I think it is logical that every city connected to that resource would get the bonus.
eg + 1 hammer for ivory.

However I don't know for sure and will check out of curiosity tonight.
This would be good though, as every since civ 2 I've wished that resources were far more important in the game (going to war with gaining a valuable resource as an objective). In civ 4 this happens but with a bonus to all city production would be even better.

 

[Reignking]

Um, in a word, no. The tile needs to be worked for the CITY to get the bonus, just like any other tile. The only resource bonus that your civ gets is the ability to create units that require horses, or +1 happiness from silver, or +1 health from corn, etc...

 

[Bushface]

Expanding a little on Reignking's post: if a resource tile is within a city's "fat cross" AND is being worked, the city screen shows the food/hammers/commerce symbols enlarged and the city is getting all those benefits. The resource is shared with all your linked cities. If the resource tile is not being worked but lies within your cultural border AND has been developed (farm, mine etc.) AND is linked to your trade network, then all your linked cities get access to that resource; for example, one gold resource, mined and linked, provides gold in all your linked cities but no production or commerce. If the resource lies outside your cultural borders or is not developed then you gain nothing from it.

 

[DarkFyre99]

the "+1 hammer" you see isn't a bonus given to your city, it is a bonus the resource gives to the unimproved tile when it is being worked by a citizen.

For example, unimproved plains yield +1 food and +1 hammers when worked.

Unimproved plains with a horse resource on them yield +1 food and +2 hammers when worked.

Plains with a horse resource and a pasture on them yield +1 food, +3 hammers, and +1 commerce when worked.

 

[Killroyan]

Yeah that I know, but the icon also shows up in other cities. So the horse icon in the city screen says +1 hammer. But that bonus only applies for the city the tile is worked on I guess. The only global bonusses are happy faces I guess and health. The 1 gold you get from trading silver for example is just 1 gold per turn and not 1 commerce per city, am I right?

 

[shivute]

Jeez, no one is talking about tiles here. So all the posters who posted about tiles and production, please read and understand the original post before replying with unrelated advice.

Kilroyan is saying the bonus is shown in every city, not just in the city with the resource. The top right window of every city, shows what resources the city is currently obtaining.

Also when you diplomatically trade for a resource a +1 hammer etc, is shown.
This is in no way a bonus related to working tiles.


I forgot to check last night due to watching the footy, will do so tonight as Big Brother is on so I will be allowed to escape!

 

[Harald]

Jeez, no one is talking about tiles here. So all the posters who posted about tiles and production, please read and understand the original post before replying with unrelated advice.

Kilroyan is saying the bonus is shown in every city, not just in the city with the resource. The top right window of every city, shows what resources the city is currently obtaining.

Also when you diplomatically trade for a resource a +1 hammer etc, is shown.
This is in no way a bonus related to working tiles.


I forgot to check last night due to watching the footy, will do so tonight as Big Brother is on so I will be allowed to escape!

The bonus that is shown in the upper right corner of the city screen and in diplomatic negotiations is the bonus that is applied to the unimproved tile.

 

[shivute]

So if you work the unimproved tile you receive this bonus.


It seems strange that this would be shown in the city screen and also in diplomatic relations though.

 

[DarkFyre99]

So if you work the unimproved tile you receive this bonus.


It seems strange that this would be shown in the city screen and also in diplomatic relations though.

That's because you're "mousing over" the resource, and it's showing the "pop-up help" for that resource. You see the same thing on the map, even though you don't actually get the +1 happy (for silver) if the tile isn't improved, just the +1 commerce.

 

[Veteranewbie]

Nah I would consider that as a general increase in shield/commerce/happiness/health in all cities with that resource
So if you trade horse for corn, all your cities gain +1 health and your trading partner get +1 shield in all his cities

 

[shivute]

Nah I would consider that as a general increase in shield/commerce/happiness/health in all cities with that resource
So if you trade horse for corn, all your cities gain +1 health and your trading partner get +1 shield in all his cities

Yeah, this is what i think would be logical.
I know all your cities get the happiness or health bonus as listed. However I think it is logical that all your cities get the +1 hammer as listed as well eg as per horses or ivory.

Therefore it has got nothing to do with working tiles!

 

[Killroyan]

This is definitely my question. If I trade my silver for say horses do all my cities get a +1 hammer bonus? Or are these just resources that only make some units/improvements possible?

I will have to try it out tonight. Didn't have time to play the last few days so I couldn't check it out myself. BTW thx Shivute for reading my post properly

 

[Reignking]

Actually, we are talking about tiles, because that is where the hammer bonus is applied, as has been stated by a few people. The Civ-wide bonus is the +happiness.