Humble request concerning the next Deity xOTM.

[Balbes]

Let's one day play a Deity Pangaea Always-War BOTM. (All the AIs are also at war with each other.) Victory conditions: Domination, Space Race, Longest Surival (gets you the cow).

 

[Tosti11]

This seems backwards to me. If Deity games are very rare, then maybe it's not a big deal if the (standard) contender level is hopeless for almost everyone. If Deity games are more common, then it becomes that much more necessary (in my opinion) to make the contender game accessible to a decent fraction of the player pool.

This is an interesting point. I suppose my thought was that if the cycle included deity then the standard game for all other levels is an un-nerfed contender. The challenger save has a handicap, and the adventurer save gets a bonus. I was thinking consistency with the rest of the cycle. If the cycle did not include deity, you wouldn't need consistency.

In general I feel the games should be tailored to the broadest swath of the CIV community, then the weaker players learn from both the responses to the questions posed in their own spoilers, and the spoilers of the stronger players. The idea I have in my head about consistency does not really jive with my general feeling about reaching the broader community.

Personally I think having the contender save be DASMI would be ideal. I would take the adventurer save until I beat a GOTM on deity, then i would take the contender save. Once I win a contender GOTM on deity I think i would go Challenger save on all levels. But if the Challenger save were the DASMI, it (for me) defeats the purpose of having an adventurer save if the contender save has adventurer bonuses. It raises a question: What comparable levels were the contender/adventurer GOTM 15? Immortal? Less or more than Immortal?

 

[DaviddesJ]

But if the Challenger save were the DASMI, it (for me) defeats the purpose of having an adventurer save if the contender save has adventurer bonuses.

In my opinion the purpose of the adventurer save is only to offer an alternative option to those who consider themselves novice Civ players and don't want to enter the real event. To me it's not an option for most participants, even those who have no chance of winning a Deity game.

 

[Tosti11]

In my opinion the purpose of the adventurer save is only to offer an alternative option to those who consider themselves novice Civ players and don't want to enter the real event. To me it's not an option for most participants, even those who have no chance of winning a Deity game.

I see the adventurer save as giving people with no chance an option to play, have a chance at winning (if they don't on contender), and learn more about CIV. No one taking the adventurer save is going to make any difference in the competition , and i don't think most people see the adventurer save the way you do. I say that because you have played and been successful playing CIV on deity (I think). For people who have not, the adventurer save is a means for breaking themselves into a difficulty level. I took the adventurer save on my first emperor game, and my first immortal game. I lost the emperor, and won the immortal, thus for me i won't take the adventurer save on any level sub deity. I have been playing vanilla for a little longer than a year. A year ago i was a Prince level player , now i have won on Immortal and achieved every VC. I attribute all I have learned to the GOTM and these spoilers. Without them i would probably be a Monarch level player at best, and only have played for space race or late domination victories. Taking the adventurer save was a way for me to step into the higher difficulty levels and convice myself i could win at those levels. I think your perspective may be a bit removed from this bottom up approach. I could be wrong .

 

[DaviddesJ]

I have never played a Civ4 deity game to victory, although I certainly think I have a chance to win one. (I never found out in the only previous deity GOTM because I lost my capital early on to a barbarian attack with 2% odds. )

It's all subjective, but to me the range of difficulty options offered in the last deity GOTM seems about right.

 

[oyzar]

go no further than to the sgotm forum to find the next diety game comming up(although occ with PA on...).

 

[Htadus]

Let's one day play a Deity Pangaea Always-War BOTM. (All the AIs are also at war with each other.) Victory conditions: Domination, Space Race, Longest Surival (gets you the cow).

Now we are talking. Come to think of it, if they are also at war, someone might be able to win it. May be even me...

 

[pjdodd]

Who designs the GOTM? Can anyone submit one?

 

[AlanH]

The staff. Send one in to ainwood for consideration. Of course, you would not then be able to compete in it.