Humourous Start

[TheMeInTeam]

Spoiler :

Indeed winnable, but perhaps only by exploiting this sad bug. Of course, the jewish AP should and would never convene for the election of a world religious leader when no civ is in judaism.

What is this, some secret jewish conspiracy to overthrow the greatest nation on earth to gain global dominance, while at the same time pretending to be acting in the interest of said great christian nation? Totally unrealistic bug and certainly this never happened in all of earths history, now did it, Sid Meier?

No VC has been attained in earth's history.

I am NOT willing to admit this is a bug until all the little event fanboys admit that broken garbage is bugged. Better yet, as broken as this is, it's still better than controls that don't work.

By the way, setting this up and staying alive until past 1600 AD isn't a gimme. Try it yourself and you'll see what I mean.

 

[Don Carnage]

No VC has been attained in earth's history.

I am NOT willing to admit this is a bug until all the little event fanboys admit that broken garbage is bugged. Better yet, as broken as this is, it's still better than controls that don't work.

The bug is not playing/cheesing the AP vic. It's that a diplomatic victory vote should only appear when you have at least one civ in the AP religion that is able to get at least 75% votes from AP city population. As I remember the rules,

"there will always be two candidates for diplomatic victory. One of the candidates will be the Owner (even if that civ is not running the AP religion). The second candidate will be the full member with the most votes, other than the Owner. Vassals are eligible for either slot."

So if there is no full member (= is in AP state religion) to oppose the Owner, there's only one electable candidate, which means that no election is possible. Is this from the original BtS rules or was it simply overlooked in a patch, because it just seems wrong?

By the way, setting this up and staying alive until past 1600 AD isn't a gimme. Try it yourself and you'll see what I mean.

I guess you were unlucky, but managed to pull through. Kudos for doing it, it is pretty hilarious. I forgot to check if you built Oracle or used prophets but you certainly had some settled ones. The AP cheese isn't fail proof, so good job in persistence and in staying alive, while aeons behind diety AI You sure fooled 'em!

A start like this in human hands isn't nearly as broken. Having to build a galley sucks, but you really only need 1 early, and the seafood + obvious prevalence of coastal sites means going sailing is somewhat high on priorities anyway. It might set back settling 5-10 turns at most, which sucks but there are worse things. It also makes you almost 100% immune to DoW from AIs on the continent if you *don't* settle past the mountain ridge for some reason, meaning that AP cheese or an OCC with this start is easier than usual.

I was disappointed that you didn't go conquer the planet, as you pointed out that this start gives early immunity while only being a 5-10 turn settle back (though that is a lot on diety I guess). I'd love seeing someone pull that off.

 

[Kaitzilla]

41 Minutes!

Fastest Deity Win Ever imo, that's 10 seconds a turn.

 

[Myth5]

41 Minutes!

Fastest Deity Win Ever imo, that's 10 seconds a turn.

You didn't read the article TMIT wrote? It explains all. Congrats btw.

 

[TheDS]

I can't tell if they're useful since the screenshot doesn't show resources, but you can get THREE cities in there. The upper corners plus the little nob at the bottom. Then go for water economy. You probably won't even need roads except for the need for Pottery. (Shame roads are tied to the Wheel like that; I've had starts I could've waited a long time to need roads.)