I feel like a "noon" and idiot for enjoying Civ V....

[Xenoslayer33]

I've been thoroughly loving my first game of Civ V (as a Civ IV lover), but I have to say I'm really discouraged to read all the negatives on the board. The comments make me feel like I should be realizing that this game is terrible... I love complex games but I don't see why there is so much hate.

I enjoy playing quality products but this board makes me feel like I wasted my money..

Edit: title should read "noob"... Stupid auto correction...

 

[Jimbo30]

So play the game and don't read the forum.

 

[Rexflex]

It is clear that the intention of a certain group of people on this forum is to make you feel like a noob. Their whole argument is based on Civ 5 a "dumming down" of the game franchise, so of course if their argument is valid then anyone who likes the game can't possibly be a long term fan of the franchise.

Just ignore them.

 

[heartCORE]

As long as your enjoying your game, who gives a what others think.

 

[Oneluv]

Don't feel bad. I so wish I felt enthusiasm for this new offering.

Don't let grumps like me ruin your goodtime. cheers.

 

[The Leviathan]

Once you realize that a vast majority of the complainers are just crybabies who can't handle change, you stop taking them seriously

infact they're more annoying than they are discouraging

 

[Flavorable]

Exactly, there are valid complaints, but remember that most complainers are really just afraid of change.

 

[Slims]

No worries. I've also enjoyed Civ5 a ton. And I can't wait for mods and updates for the game (think about vanilla Civ4!). It has a bright future imo. I'll be playing this game for awhile.

Everyone has an opinion, and on the internet especially, people love to be vocal haters.

 

[moscaverde]

You know... you should play because you find it fun.
And thats it.

 

[May Day 10]

I wouldnt feel bad at all.

Personally, I cant get into it for many of the reasons hashed over and over.

However, this site is for Civ fans, who I would consider the most intelligent group of "gamers" out there, and its a real niche. There is a poll here that says about 80-90% are satisfied with the release.

 

[Triplanetary]

Funny story... I barely played vanilla Civ3 and Civ4. In both cases, I played them a bit, then forgot about them for months or even years at a time. Then, also in both cases, when the expansions came out I'd buy them and get back into Civ3/4 in a big way. I played Civ4: BtS right up until I got Civ5.

My point is that Civ5 is the first Civ game since 2 that I've gotten this addicted to from the very beginning. Maybe it's me, but I also feel like a lot of the core principles of Civ5 are a huge improvement. There are some kinks to work out, but if Civ5's expansions are as much of an improvement as 3 and 4's, we have a lot to look forward to.

 

[Aussie_Lurker]

For me it all comes down to this-does the game still have that "One....more....turn" feel about it? I was afraid that the things I didn't like would rob me of that sensation, but the truth is it didn't-its as strong as ever. That isn't to say that there aren't things I'd like to see done differently in this game, but these "flaws" (I use inverted commas because its obviously only my OPINION) actually didn't inhibit my enjoyment of the game (well, so far at any rate). When you can play a game for almost 2 hours after you said you were only going to play 3 or 4 turns, then they must be doing something right .

Aussie.

 

[Grapa]

Ignore them. Half of them are intellectual lightweights who were upset this wasn't CIV IV v. 2.0.

 

[Scaramanga]

Pop psychology: no one can make you feel like a noob unless you let them.

 

[Auncien]

There's nothing wrong with your like for this game. Go play it, talk about it and enjoy it.

 

[Aussie_Lurker]

Once you realize that a vast majority of the complainers are just crybabies who can't handle change, you stop taking them seriously

infact they're more annoying than they are discouraging

I don't entirely agree with this assessment. Take myself for example:

When Civ2 moved to Civ3, I *loved* the changes they made (culture, unique units & civilizations, strategic resources). What diminished my love of Civ3 was that they didn't change it *enough*-the retention of boring Civ2 governments (after switching to Social Engineering in SMAC), corruption & pollution seemed to be poor decisions IMHO.

When Civ3 moved to Civ4, I again *loved* the changes they made (improvements to culture, substitution of pollution for health, civics, terrain improvements, religion, city maintenance costs, specialists & great people). Indeed, I don't think that there was a single change that I didn't like.

Now with Civ4 moving to Civ5, I find myself in the position where some of the changes don't sit well with me at all. The removal of health, culture wars, cottages & religion key amongst them.
Some things I absolutely love-like using culture to purchase Social Policies, being able to purchase tiles with gold, City-States, the even greater uniqueness of Civilizations & the removal of the slider being the key ones.
Some changes I'm ambivalent about-I like global happiness, but feel it should have retained its city-based component as well (so you can have a very happy nation overall, but still have 1 or 2 cities that are thoroughly peeved with you). I love social policies, but don't like the way all their benefits stack, I love the removal of the +/- system in diplomacy, but fear they've made things too obscure. I don't really like how they've made bonus resources less important than they were in Civ4, I'm also somewhat concerned that they've made gold *too* important in some cases.

So yes I have some complaints, & hope that further improvements are in the offing in future expansions, but that hasn't detracted too much from my love of Civ5. Its just that Civ4 was *so* good, in so many ways, that I can see myself playing both games-side by side-for many years to come (which wasn't true of Civ3 or Civ2 ).

Aussie.

 

[Varelse]

You're not the only one enjoying the game. The game has problems that need to be adressed, but it is playable, and enjoyable, and Civ 4 had problems at release as well.

 

[silverjim]

I confess I have a bad habit. I play each iteration of Civ as a new game, to be taken at face value. I've played since the series started, and I'll admit I liked them all. As my old Marine D.I. said, "Adapt or die". The last one (Civ IV) had cottages and this one doesn't? So what? It's a new game. Religion was floating around and there's none in this game? So what? It's a new game. Now, if you'll pardon me, I'll go back to playing Civ 5 and having fun. Y'all do what you want. I fought for the freedom to do so, and I'll stir my 65+ old bones and get back to whipping up on them nasty Germans.

 

[Varelse]

Also, with Civ 5, we're all noobies.

 

[Aussie_Lurker]

Also, with Civ 5, we're all noobies.

Hey Varelse, haven't seen you in ages man (I'd recognize that Avatar of yours anywhere )! How ya been holding up?

Aussie.