I hate god

An all powerful god means that free will is impossible. You don't have any choice. God created you that way, therefore you act that way. Therefore evil is entirely the fault of god.

Therefore god is evil.

Do you understand my logic?
Your logic is flawed. An omnipotent god could limit his power and unless you know god's purpose in creation, you cannot judge his success which may not be related to your sense of well being at all.

It might even be easier to make the case that a scientific approach to the universe renders free will null and void.
 
Your logic is flawed. An omnipotent god could limit his power and unless you know god's purpose in creation, you cannot judge his success which may not be related to your sense of well being at all.

It might even be easier to make the case that a scientific approach to the universe renders free will null and void.

An ominpotent being could limit it's power!? Then it wouldn't be omnipotent (unless omnipotence also violate the laws of logic, in which case anything goes). God created what we define as evil, even if it had a higher purpose. Evil is entirely the responsibility of god.
 
It's okay, he'll still love you just the same. :)
Agreed, no matter how much you hate God, he will still love you :).

CurtSibling said:
Believing in a god is just a crutch for people who cannot accept responsibility for their actions, or would be too bored without a fantasy life.
I disagree, I believe in a God and yet I do accept the responsibilities for my own actions. As for being too bored without a fantasy life, I would also disagree with this.
 
I disagree, I believe in a God and yet I do accept the responsibilities for my own actions. As for being too bored without a fantasy life, I would also disagree with this.

And why I should take your testimony as a benchmark for the human race???

You are but one person...Big deal.

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An ominpotent being could limit it's power!? Then it wouldn't be omnipotent (unless omnipotence also violate the laws of logic, in which case anything goes). God created what we define as evil, even if it had a higher purpose. Evil is entirely the responsibility of god.
Actually free will is more closely linked to omniscience than omnipotence. Reconciling free will with an all-knowing god can be complicated.

Why do you say that the laws of logic supercede omnipotence?
Why coudn't an all powerful god limits his power in some way?
Why does what we define as evil have to be defined by god as evil?
 
Omnipotent means being God is capable of anything. Doesn't mean he has to do it.
 
And why I should take your testimony as a benchmark for the human race???

You are but one person...Big deal.

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And yet your initial statement was a generalization. CivGeneral was just countering with his experience that your seemingly "across-the-board" stereotype is untrue. Thus you're either obligated to revise your statement (maybe say "many" or "some people") or attack CivGeneral's evidence. (though I'm not sure how you could)
 
Either way it is your choice. Must be nice that a God who doesn't give you a choice gives you the choice to reject Him. Would you rather be a robot like an Angel?

Ironically, you should be thankful that you have the CHOICE to say God, F*** Y**.
 
And yet your initial statement was a generalization. CivGeneral was just countering that with his experience that your stereotype is untrue. Thus you're either obligated to revise your statement (maybe say "many" or "some people") or attack CivGeneral's evidence. (though I'm not sure how you could)

Piffle. I'm not obligated to do anything.

What makes you think my life-experience of people is somehow second fiddle to CivGeneral?

His standard tactic is to reference some person in his street or church as evidence of world religion.

After seeing him do this about two million times, I now reject his folksy assertions out of hand.

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Either way it is your choice. Must be nice that a God who doesn't give you a choice gives you the choice to reject Him. Would you rather be a robot like an Angel?

Ironically, you should be thankful that you have the CHOICE to say God, F*** Y**.
IIRC one third of the angels rejcected god to follow Lucifer. ;)
 
Either way it is your choice. Must be nice that a God who doesn't give you a choice gives you the choice to reject Him. Would you rather be a robot like an Angel?

Ironically, you should be thankful that you have the CHOICE to say God, F*** Y**.

No god didn't give me that choice. It's like designing a computer program that says "You suck" on startup, and then casting it into the junk yard. Not very belevolant is it?

Edit: Well since i haven't commited any "Mortal Sins" or crap like that i guess i won't be cast to the great junkyard (hell). But nonetheless god created something that insults him. Just like the angels who followed lucifer. All gods plan.
 
No god didn't give me that choice. It's like designing a computer program that says "You suck" on startup, and then casting it into the junk yard. Not very belevolant is it?
What makes you think the universe is like a computer program?
 
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