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Discussion in 'Alpha Centauri' started by gearss, May 1, 2009.

  1. gearss

    gearss Chieftain

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    about 9 years ago I have tried the Alpha Centauri, it seems only the cheating can help me play the game continuelly. The AI cheat too much so they can expand very fast.
    Without cheating, player's manual operation is too hard to compete with the computer opponents.
     
  2. Petek

    Petek Alpha Centaurian Administrator Supporter

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    Read Vel's Guide here and the articles in the SMAC Academy. You'll soon be beating Transcend with one hand tied behind your back!

    Petek
     
  3. gearss

    gearss Chieftain

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    cheating to play the game is a good idea to amuse yourself.
    without cheating, you may need many hours to push the game into middle-game state, many players cannot afford such many hours' tedious operation.
    if you cheat to own big money like 9000000, then you can quickly build many units to fight with opponents. in order to make some limit to gaming, you can turn off the setting: cannot creat new colony pod etc, so you must occupy the existing cities.
    with cheating, some years ago I played the game and find the war is complicated and need deep thinking. the desginer permit the players many settings to custmize the game style, so each player can adjust the gaming style acording to your flavorite.
    it seems many players like to study the standard rules to play the game, perhaps it is a too slow skill to amuse your youself.
     
  4. sendos

    sendos Immortal

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    Shame on you, man. I've heard enough of cheaters! Not to mention cheaters in source games btw!
     
  5. Buster's Uncle

    Buster's Uncle AC2 Co-Owner

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    Does this qualify as noob-bashing? I'm asking.
     
  6. sendos

    sendos Immortal

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    Noob-bashing? I'll go read the rules, but I don't feel like I've a broken a rule anyway.

    to gearss: just play easy levels without cheats, if I can do it, I'm sure you can. The AI do not cheat.
     
  7. Buster's Uncle

    Buster's Uncle AC2 Co-Owner

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    Well, I'm not talking about the rules- I don't know what they are, and wasn't asking a mod; just interested in discussion.

    But isn't it bad for the forum when you're that undiplomatic to a guy after his second post? I'm not arguing the position, but rather the manners and wisdom of it.

    Had I caught something like that after my second post, it would have been my last here. I'm just sayin'.
     
  8. sendos

    sendos Immortal

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    Oh. sorry, I wasn't paying attention to the number of his posts, but still he should take it on board.

    P.s. It's newb-bashing, not noob. they're both different.
     
  9. TLF

    TLF Prince

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    Maybe you could try a faster more war oriented game.

    I just started playing Rome:Total War.
    It has some Civ elements in a turn based environment and battles where you control various units like infantry and calvary, etc in battle.

    Rise of Nations looks more war oriented and I hear you can play a game through in an hour.
     
  10. Buster's Uncle

    Buster's Uncle AC2 Co-Owner

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    I wasn't aware of a difference. Please enlighten a [ pretty new guy himself].
     
  11. limefrog

    limefrog Chieftain

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    An easy way to cheat at the beginning is to create somewhat stronger factions to help you get over the learning curve and speed things up a bit..... after that when its too much a cakewalk weaken the faction or revert to a reg game one to make it real.
     
  12. Russia4Life

    Russia4Life Chieftain

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    Noob is commonly used as an insult on many online games, whereas newbie or newb is the more polite way of referring to someone as a new player.
     
  13. Jack Hawksmoor

    Jack Hawksmoor Chieftain

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    Try this excellent guide at WePlayCiv's wiki!
     
  14. Buster's Uncle

    Buster's Uncle AC2 Co-Owner

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    @ gearss and anyone else new to the game:
    Try this training-wheels beginners' faction. It's designed to be as easy as possible, to lessen the frustation of the learning curve.

    It is the result of a request from a brand new SMACer at WPC. There are simple installation instructions in the readme included in the zip.

    Feedback from another newb would be welcome.
     

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  15. Bllasae

    Bllasae Prince

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    Noob is bad, but n00b is the worst type of n00b. They're the guys that are new, but don't like when players who know what they are doing try and teach them stuff.
     
  16. Buster's Uncle

    Buster's Uncle AC2 Co-Owner

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    I see that the SupahNewbs have been downloaded twice. I'd really like to get feedback on any playtesting that's gone on. I've only heard from the original person I made it it for (with vyeh's help) who'd been playing for a month and found it too powerful to be any fun by then.

    That's what I was shooting for.

    But I'd like to hear from more newcomers about if Mr. PotatoeHead eased them over the learning curve. I don't consider the faction quite finished, necessarily.
     
  17. vyeh

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    I see several strands here:

    (1) the game is too difficult without cheating. (have you tried the easiest difficulty level?)

    (2) the game is too tedious without cheating. (have you tried a Darsnan scenario?)

    (3) the game is too boring without cheating. (have you tried changing the rules, playing with different moisture, ocean coverage, native life and erosion or playing with different factions?)
     
  18. Buster's Uncle

    Buster's Uncle AC2 Co-Owner

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    ...I see that someone else has downloaded the faction now. Again, feedback would be very welcome and helpful- I've been playing SMAC since the demo was released, and I need all the insighs I can get from people still learning the game...
     
  19. zsozso

    zsozso Chieftain

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    Well, I have to admit, that most of the single-player game I played in the last 5 years I have been cheating! ;)
    No, seriously, I can show you the save files, the score board on all says "CHEATED!"
    That is because I have been playing mostly the faction-switch challenge game :D
    The most fun you can have in single-player and it is the easiest way to get a beefed-up competitive AI opponent (without extensive modding).
     
  20. vyeh

    vyeh Emperor

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    zsozso, have you ever lost the faction-switch challenge game?
     

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