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I wanna build an elevator. Really wanna!

CavLancer

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Trouble is, I, as in I and my amigos, wanna be the ones to build it, here in the Philippines. There are few lawyers and lots of good living. It seems very free.

Its got to take sober people up to my 3rd floor bar where I can sell them drinks and burgers and eventually pizza, and then return them, drunk, safely to the ground.

Think Apollo 13 with a bar.

So I search 'elevator kit'. I find an elevator made to order! Sounds great! Butt...its in 'Second Life'. I mean people have one life, now they need a second? WTH is up with that? Imagine my disappointment when I discover its an elevator for for delusional fantasy folks to go from one floor to the next, and NOT in my bar, let alone my world. Then there's one for Minecraft. I have friends that play minecraft. None of them will be stopping by to get loaded and have a pizza pie. No. I'm in the r e a l (deleted by Second Life moderator. Cav: We a r e watching!) i n g world, and I want to buy an elevator kit. In the Philippines on the island of Bohol. To move minds a n d bodies.

Any advice? :help:
 
builder enthusiast forums would be my first place of intel
 
^Given his aforementioned luck, he will probably end up here:

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I went to one a few years back and they said to leave it to professionals, not to chance it, you will get sued and don't be an ass.

What a bunch of losers who never took a chance in their lives! Where would Otis be if he had listened to such as this? I'll tell you where, nowhere! He would become one of them, and not the elevator King! All the buildings in New York City would be no more than 5 stories tall, and GWB would have had a rather uneventful presidency. Losers! But no, Otis is a great man because he persevered when others said he could not, and because there were not so many lawyers in the land, just like this land in which I live! Which is why its economy is growing at 7.something %, equal to China's.

Just need some tech, such as the deally doo which stops an elevator whose cable has snapped. A hoist with 5 cables and a counterweight would be nifty. A kit! :) A kit! For under $2000!
 
Hey man, it's not your life, it's the lives of everyone who thinks it was safe to ride! I wonder if the DYI folks in the burner community might have some tips. They make crazy stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if someone built a working elevator into one of their art cars.
 
Where would Otis be if he had listened to such as this? I'll tell you where, nowhere!
Elisha Otis invented the "safety elevator," using a technique to stop the elevator car from falling if the cable broke. Before his invention, passenger elevators had been impossible. The patent he got on this technique prevented other companies from competing with him... which is essentially what the professionals are telling you! :lol:

You can probably purchase the equipment, and also find the "how-to" instructions. If I were really determined to do this project, I would look at DYI (do it yourself construction) websites and forums. But, honestly, it doesn't seem safe.

You might not have to worry about lawyers, but you might have to worry about the families of anyone hurt by this elevator. I suspect they would be unhappy once word got out. ;)
 
Just build a slide from the bar right into the parking lot. Patrons might throw up on the way down, so I'm not sure about cushion placement at the bottom, as you don't want it soaked with vomit every time sometime goes home. Maybe you could have a vomit chute right beside the person chute or far more practical - a cleanup crew at the bottom - you could pay them a sandwich per customer cleaned up.
 
Trouble is, I, as in I and my amigos, wanna be the ones to build it, here in the Philippines. There are few lawyers and lots of good living. It seems very free.

Its got to take sober people up to my 3rd floor bar where I can sell them drinks and burgers and eventually pizza, and then return them, drunk, safely to the ground.

Think Apollo 13 with a bar.

So I search 'elevator kit'. I find an elevator made to order! Sounds great! Butt...its in 'Second Life'. I mean people have one life, now they need a second? WTH is up with that? Imagine my disappointment when I discover its an elevator for for delusional fantasy folks to go from one floor to the next, and NOT in my bar, let alone my world. Then there's one for Minecraft. I have friends that play minecraft. None of them will be stopping by to get loaded and have a pizza pie. No. I'm in the r e a l (deleted by Second Life moderator. Cav: We a r e watching!) i n g world, and I want to buy an elevator kit. In the Philippines on the island of Bohol. To move minds a n d bodies.

Any advice? :help:

I'm so confused by your post. Were you drunk or high when you posted it? I'm not being judgemental, Lord knows I'm quite familiar with getting hammered. And your post is not Millman level incomprehensible. I'm just a bit confused and it was rather bizarre.

Do you mean the elevator is 2nd hand? I've been to some former Soviet countries where they had those. They worked OK, just it was a bit confusing when they got like 6 buttons and the building is 4 floors. I saw the recent South Park parody of minecraft but I'm still not at all familiar with the game so the reference kinda flew over my head too.

Also, it's only a 3rd floor bar, can people not be half-assed to walk up 3 floors? It's not exactly Rapunzel's tower.

I had to laugh when you mentioned Otis. One of my friends works for Otis in Turkey and we call him Otis sometimes instead of his real name.
 
How about a zip-line and harness?
 
Hygro, I'll give it a look. This project is rattling around the back of my mind, its maybe 5 years down the road. I was kind of hoping that someone would add a link to 'Elevator Kits R Us', but its never that easy. The DIY folks would be a good option to pick up info but I tend to think that in the US everyone has lawyer phobias, I know I did. When I got here I was amazed what people do for themselves.

I'm in the process of building a dumbwaiter. Its 4 stories tall, and will have a door on each floor with a plastic window in it. I'm going to be contacting an electronics guy to rig a low voltage system connected to a solenoid so if someone opens any of the doors the motor will have its power cut. So, if someone opens a door and shoves their head in the shaft they get to keep it.

Not meant for people so I have in mind a couple basic safety measures. Lets say a propane gas cylinder is going up, don't really want it plummeting down. After the box goes up past a hole in the side of the shaft a short 2x4 will be stuck through the hole but not the shaft, not side to side. It will go in a few inches until it hits a stop on the back of the 2x4. In other words it will be T shaped, inserted maybe 6' up. So, a gas cylinder box falling from the 3rd floor will hit the 2x4 and there will be some drama but it will be slowed before it hits the 2nd safety item, a half filled air cushion, thick walled like one of those ladies exercise balls. Those cylinders are tough as well. Likely I could take it to the 3rd story and toss it off and it would survive. Here they make them stronger than the white ones in the US. I'm building the box to carry (2) 5 gallon water bottles so the gas cylinder won't be the heaviest thing to make the trip. No people.

Borachio, yes they have some interesting suction tubes that I don't know what to think of yet.

Formaldehyde, thanks for that. This is why I want a kit. It must be a real elevator.

Just found a link to a supplier in India, better than China. Since the Chinese government has become so aggressive I really try to avoid Chinese goods.

http://www.indiamart.com/mazdaagencies/elevator-kit.html

warpus, there is a main deck that is maybe 5' above ground level where the main pizza serving area will be, next to the pool. If we end up buying the property next door we could build a ramp up to it for wheelchairs.

There will be a pulley lift from next to the pizza oven we're building up to the bar. Pully and rope is already mounted and comes down from a roof above the 4th floor. Just need to add a pizza sized box and some guide ropes run through eye bolts mounted on the box to keep it from blowing around. This will be lifted by a cook pulling the rope. Could use this the other way to send drinks made in the bar down to the main deck.

I look at it as kind of a neat feature. You can watch stuff going up and down. That would tend to make people wonder what's up there and 'discover' the bar too. So it gets them to use the current spiral stairway.

Regarding the ramp you mentioned for drunks to slide down, from the spiral step post there is a launch point for a water slide. No slide yet, but we're ready for it, all the prep work is done. From the pool pump room there is a pipe running inside the post to the launch point, and buried under the tile for the year we can afford to finish the project. So at that point a person from the bar, loaded to the gills, could get in the water slide and end up in the pool, though if he tosses that could put people off swimming. ;)

NovaKart, yeah I'd had 2 rum drinks at the end of a stressful day driving to the big city over a hilly back woods route that's the only way in left to us since the 7.2 quake. Thrill a minute.

Minecraft is a game and they use elevators in it, beyond that I've never played either. :dunno:

Not second hand, a kit, new. Look at the link above.

Third floor, sure people could climb. Mostly a bunch of old farts here though in varying states of health. What you suggest, plus drinks delivered to the main deck, is how we'll start out.
 
Could you do an escalator system going up right next to the downward water slide? Would that be a viable alternative to an elevator?
 
Wait a minute... are you turning your house into a restaurant?
 
Lancer, build an escalator instead.

A hellova lot safer, easier, and most likely cheaper too. Plus the parts are pretty simple and doesn't require the complex safety features of a lift. Also, if it breaks down it simply becomes stairs. A lift becomes a death trap. :)

http://www.ehow.com/how_4541128_build-escalator.html
 
VRWCAgent, everything rusts here, stainless steel rusts here, its on the ocean. That escalator would look good for a few days. At least an elevator would be somewhat protected inside a sealed shaft.

Birdjaguar, yes. We're building a wood fired pizza oven, a biggy.

So we'll have pizza on the main deck and up in the bar. I think that a family will come and eat, then the kids will go swimming while the moms will sit around and chat and the dads head up to the bar. We'll see. We hope to open soon with a bar and grill and per head charge for swimming. Then when the oven is done... :b: One step at a time.

Not so much a party pad as a family place. :)
 
Lancer, build an escalator instead.

A hellova lot safer, easier, and most likely cheaper too. Plus the parts are pretty simple and doesn't require the complex safety features of a lift. Also, if it breaks down it simply becomes stairs. A lift becomes a death trap. :)

http://www.ehow.com/how_4541128_build-escalator.html

Going to turn into a heap of rust in a heartbeat mate and how do the wheelchairs get up again?

There's lots of time to think about it. Part of the reason for building it is my age, I'm 55, and live in a couple tall buildings. I guess I could build a private elevator with a good strong hoist just for me. Then when I'm 90 and it breaks I get one last ride before the happy hunting ground. ;)
 
I recall an old Red Green episode where he made an outdoor elevator from a phone booth and a winch of some sort... :hmm:
 
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