ID Cards: UK Parliament approves second reading

[Sparta]

People should've seen this coming years ago when they were tacitly accepting the propagation of traffic monitor and public area cameras . I'd definitely refuse as far as I could reasonably afford to, but I'm not in the UK.

 

[nonconformist]

I would oppose ID cards, and would gladly get myself arrested for not carrying one.

 

[nonconformist]

All, but mostly that I'd be a criminal for leaving my house.

 

[JoeM]

I've already signed up.

For more info - see my thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=122551

ID Cards are the second biggest issue in the UK after climate change.

 

[Sparta]

Holy crap - they actually include biometrics (as in fingerprints, or something more innocuous?)!? Good lord that's outrageous; there's no way in bleep I would ever voluntarily give the govt any additional biometric info (they're so responsible with the info they already have anyway). I'm already contemplating abandoning air travel to avoid the same; the idea of the govt forcing it upon you is ridiculous (I should shut my mouth before the U.S. proposal comes out next month). Best of luck to all you UK citizens. Fight the good fight!

Edit: on-topic, I'd vote for all poll choices but the last, and it even makes me barking mad to boot...

 

[JoeM]

Fingerprints, iris scans (and photograph).


There is no way of limiting the legislation to prevent this being extended.


Bush has already rejected it for US citizens, so you're safe for now.

 

[stormbind]

What do the ID cards do?

The argument about whether or not to have them has gone on for so long, that everyone (on both sides) has forgotten what they were designed to do

 

[stormbind]

I've already signed up.

For more info - see my thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=122551

ID Cards are the second biggest issue in the UK after climate change.

What about G8 and cancelling third world debt?

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

Moderator Action: Threads merged

 

[Hitro]

IC cards per se aren't bad but actually quite useful as a means of identifying yourself (at banks, etc.).

What I don't like is if anything but the most basic data is recorded on them. Religion for example has no point there. And certainly no biometric data...

 

[stormbind]

But we already have 101 different ID cards - what do we need another one for?

 

[Rambuchan]

But we already have 101 different ID cards - what do we need another one for?

No man. You are missing the point. We are going to have those 101 put into just 1 card. It's a lot easier to conduct identity fraud with just one central database to steal from.

 

[stormbind]

Will it be one central database though? The ability to read/write to portions of memory can be subcontracted to maintainers of specialist databases. I do not know if that is how it's supposed to work - I am just speculating and pumping out some mind borts.

 

[Rambuchan]

Yes and I am just guffing out some half baked Rambu cakes.

EDIT - A clear sign I should go skin up!

 

[10Seven]

Fingerprints, iris scans (and photograph).


There is no way of limiting the legislation to prevent this being extended.


Bush has already rejected it for US citizens, so you're safe for now.

I'm reminded of building and development consents - these, starting out as a 'minor alteration', very easily become a complete rebuild in fact, if not on paper - I recall a local historical building approved for minor alteration. Only later did locals learn the place was, literally, to be bulldozed - leaving perhaps a tenth of the original - to make way for a modern contruction in the middle of one of the area's oldest/most historical districts...

This must be an area in which some liberals and conservatives can agree 100% - 'don't poop in my backyard, and don't poop within 1 foot of it!'

 

[JoeM]

@stormbind
One of the issues is that the discussions on implimentation are a closed process - we don't know how they want to implement it, or worse they don't know either.

@10seven
You are absolutely right, liberals and conservatives all voted against it, plus several government rebels.