Imagine this scenario: The Last Humans

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  • 35-years old actress, very clever, not married, with baby

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 15-years old boy, classical guitarist

    Votes: 6 7.4%
  • 2-years old baby, actress' son

    Votes: 7 8.6%
  • 45-years old medic, the only medic on ship. He's a commie.

    Votes: 2 2.5%
  • 50-years old writter, really famous, extremely educated (without biology)

    Votes: 6 7.4%
  • 20-years old lady, said to be a perfect choice for a mother

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • 30-years old porn star, productive. ;) (male)

    Votes: 50 61.7%
  • 35-years old minister of agroculture, can help you on the new planet in cultivizing it

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • 60-years old astrounom who can help you at your flight

    Votes: 8 9.9%

  • Total voters
    81
I don't remember where I read or saw this, and it is has been a LONG time since i did, but I swear remembering hearing that the minimum starting population for acceptable genetic diversity was 32.

I've seen estimates range from several hundred to several thousand. The problem is humans don't breed too much, so with every generation more genetic material is lost at a higher rate than with other mammals who have more children (the same problem is plaguing efforts to save the Panda, incidentally).

Each baby inherets 50% of genetic material from each parent and so with 2 kids you're gonna average 75% being passed on. Even assuming more kids you're still losing genetic information every generation and that's not even factoring in the fact that humans aren't particularly genetically diverse to begin with thanks to recent population bottlenecks. A few generations down the line it dwindles further and further, and with no hope of outside replenishment it just isn't gonna happen.
 
i'll find it very simple

i'll jsut kick all the dudes out and leave the girls for me
come on only 3 females? no way i will be sharing with 6 other guys!
 
So we'd be screwed in the long term. In which case we might as well screw in the short term, at which point the porn star (my in-flight competition) doesn't make the ride. :lol:

Agreed, I can carry the load (pun intended) myself. 10 People is not going to be genetically viable in the long term, but at least I would be somewhat of a creator for our short history.
 
How cares about humanity, that commie is going down.
thats rather petty isnt it? i mean your getting rid of the only person who can provide medical assistance over his beliefs ? and its in a small comunity so communism would wOULD work, i mean cmon your a neo nazi
 
I would leave the writer behind because I'm a writer and surely there's no room for competition on the new world. :lol:
 
Im with the other guy, it wont work in the long run so I'll just take whoever I can have a nice chat with. Seeing as how Im an avid guitar player, I would definately take the kid as I know very little classical guitar.
 
Id turf out the porn star, hes competition.
 
I would take out the porn star. And after we reach a decent population and find a way to get decent medical care, I would kill that commie. Sorry, but we got this No Commies Allowed rule in the planet that I shall call Planet Slaughter to honor myself, the couragerous leader.
 
The 30 year old male porn star gets left behind, but not like it matters. You need at least 32 mating pairs of humans in order to re-establish the species, so essentially I just have to eliminate the competition for the next most important thing after the survival of the human species and that is sex (for pleasure).

CORRECTION: For some reason, I originally stated that one needed eight mating pairs (16 adults) in order to perpetuate a species with acceptable levels of genetic diversity. This was incorrect. After some research, the number of mating pairs was found to be between 16 - 32 (or 32 - 64 adults).

Studies have shown that offspring of mating first cousins can have nearly double the risk for genetic disorders. Offspring of mating second cousins have an increased risk of 1/3 the base rate. Offspring of third cousins have only a slightly higher risk (almost negligible) of genetic disorders. Fourth cousins have no more common genetic material than any two individuals picked at random and therefor, they're offspring have no increased risk of genetic disorder.

If a population were to start with thirty-two mating pairs, it could reach the fifth generation before (third) cousins would inevitably begin mating. Ideally, a population should start with at least sixty-four mating pairs so that the population would reach the sixth generation before (fourth) cousins would inevitably begin mating.

Is this math correct?
 
I'd drop the porn star as he's dead weight, and kill off the commie. No way I'm going to let the red menace survive the end of the world.
 
The porn star, he has no skill that is valuable and is probably harboring disease. There are no room for more babies anyway and we don't need anymore men. If he was a female then she would be useful as they are at a premium.
 
This is all one sad last hope for mankind, if only because there are only 2 women. NOT RIGHT! And whats with everyone killing the commie? This is 9 people. What the hell can he do?

I'd knock of the porn-star. That jerk will just make me look bad. The baby was an option, but I try to be humane, and the mother wouldn't recover too well.
 
This is all one sad last hope for mankind, if only because there are only 2 women. NOT RIGHT! And whats with everyone killing the commie? This is 9 people. What the hell can he do?

I'd knock of the porn-star. That jerk will just make me look bad. The baby was an option, but I try to be humane, and the mother wouldn't recover too well.

Yeah. I'm the last person to advocate socialism/communism but it seems to be at least functional in small little groups.

The mother was stipulated as being (understandably) completely attached to the kid. They both stay or they both go.
 
so farsical are the choices i abstain
 
Almost two-thirds for the porn star. Kinda one sided. ;)
 
The scenario is written by me.

And Mirc is used as inspiration, guess for who! >:)
 
I choosed the minister. On a new planet we would need farmers, no politicians and I doubt any minister of agriculture has ever worked on a farm...
and he is 5 years older than the pornstar.
 
Voted the 'film' star (as it seems, did everyone else)

All he's good for is doing the business and it's not as if there are a lack of men on the flight. Always best to have more women than men (that goes for alot of things, nights out, nights in, fleeing the Apoclypse etc.)

and I agree there's too many men in the choices. One false move and you've destroyed 50% of the breeding capasity of the group. It'd end up being like Single's Night down at your local
 
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