[BTS] IMM & Deity lets play collection thread - Henrik

[Thrasybulos]

I'd assume...

 

[Build2Much]

Big fan and watch all your civ4 videos. Over a hundred already!

On this map, I would

Spoiler :

Settle in place, settler first, tech fishing. Then it depends, but probably attack the Northern neighbour with horse archers, and then go monarchy.

Speaking as someone whose ceiling is immortal, I totally agree with your strategy, after watching the video.

The thing I find compelling about this game (and I’m really interested to see this play out) is that I think every decision he made was not only defensible, but in most games it would have been just fine. There is a combo of weak leader/civ, rng bad luck, and strategic resource bad luck, but also he begrudgingly took a tech at one point that probably saved him and then used that in the war.

I’m sure he sat down to play a fun immortal game and easily could have put this one on the shelf, but I’m glad @Henrik75 has published these because I definitely find myself fighting uphill like this. Good luck the rest of the way!

Edit: side note - I found the first video in the Frederick series to possibly be the most educational one about the opening I’ve watched. Really good chance to hear a very good player’s thought process.

 

[Henrik75]

I feel the Frederick series was my most well-played game. Tough map, but almost perfect execution. Definitely recommend it.

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[sylvanllewelyn]

The thing I find compelling about this game (and I’m really interested to see this play out) is that I think every decision he made was not only defensible, but in most games it would have been just fine.

I don't have time to explain all the decisions that I think were not defensible. I will list one.

Spoiler :

He put a city one tile away from the jungle rice and then builds a monument. I would have at least built it next to the rice. Preferably, I wouldn't have built that city at all.

A long time ago, he lost a livestream game on immortal difficulty. He had his own big island, not isolation, lots of jungle. He took his time to develop the jungle. I would have created a stack of galleys and attack someone for more "usable" land.

 

[Build2Much]

@sylvanllewelyn - we clearly have a different definition of “defensible”. You are a very tough grader!

Just watched ep3 (it’s a shorter one). Recovery was impressive, tech management to trade back into relevance I would have never seen / executed.

It’s got to be too far gone at this point though, right?

 

[sylvanllewelyn]

I will watch ep3 later. Henrik will be fine. His economic management is impressive.

 

[Henrik75]

i think the jungle rice city is fine once you get IW. becomes a decent pumper and claims aloooot of land. maybe on deity difficulty i wouldn't settle it but imm is a bit different, land is power and more time for it to pay off.

 

[jorissimo]

Just watched ep3 (it’s a shorter one). Recovery was impressive, tech management to trade back into relevance I would have never seen / executed.

I'm at the beginning of ep3, at the part where Justinian shows up being able to research Rocketry. That was such a mind = blown moment. Excited to see the recovery play out. @Henrik75 I dig it that you showcase nightmare games like this and show how unpredictable and tough this game can be, even on a lower difficulty than the one you're used to.

 

[Build2Much]

forgot to say, that Charlemagne series was very fun beginning to end. Good stuff!

 

[kazapp]

Sullla recently started a new game of Civ 4. Not super knowledgeable about him and his playing strength/style, but it appears Emperor is his comfort level (much like Immortal is Henrik's).

But then he rolled up a Boreal map, a large Boreal map... and he took out two AIs. That's an insane amount of land for each civ. Not to mention the amount of land nobody fog busts...!

I mean, you couldn't ask for more Barbarian abuse if you tried (or selected "Raging Barbs I guess

But man, that map. To me it seems insanely hard. It took Sullla a fair bit of time to even realize what he's up against. Tucked into a corner with not so nice neighbors, and ice and mountains everywhere.

It made me curious about Boreal maps, and after generating a couple of maps, yeez - the imbalance where one civ might get basically nothing (you can have as little as a single tundra Deer and a lake for food and half your BFC is covered in ice) and another gets paradise (half a dozen plains resources: Deer, Wheat, Gems, Sheep... all irrigated along a river), makes regular Pangea and Fractal maps look like child's play in comparison!

I told Henrik about it and, buy, do I look forward to when (and if) he decides to show us how a strong Deity player does it on that insane Boreal map!

 

[sylvanllewelyn]

Sullla recently started a new game of Civ 4. Not super knowledgeable about him and his playing strength/style, but it appears Emperor is his comfort level (much like Immortal is Henrik's).

Henrik is very comfortable on deity.

Sullla is unparalleled in tough maps. Watch him play stupid maps.

 

[kazapp]

Congrats to Henrik for FINALLY winning as Tokugawa Always War!

Not sure how many game ideas he's queued up, but here's hoping to him getting around to that Large Boreal map. Should provide a nice change of scenery

 

[Henrik75]

That is on the cards, yes!