Imperium OffTopicum XIV

[Civ'ed]

It doesn't matter how many peacekeeping troops you have, you don't use them for acts of war.

 

[christos200]

OOC: Is the above post directed towards Ail?

 

[Civ'ed]

OOC: aye

 

[Ailedhoo]

It doesn't matter how many peacekeeping troops you have, you don't use them for acts of war.

Our peacekeepers are members of the Protective Caste and their virtue is courage. They are set to Vietnam to protect the Vietnese and if that involves facing the Japanese then so be it. They had prepared for it, for we had expected Japanese aggression towards the UN mission. Now it is time to stand up against Japan and its puppet for JUSTICE!

From: Japan
To: UNVIFOR

Japan, knowing that the other members of the UNVIFOR are interested in peace and are not imperialists and colonialists like Greece, will not invade UNVIFOR territory and will not chase Greek soldiers into UNVIFOR land. However, if Greek artillery attacks from UNVIFOR territory or Greece uses Air Bases in UNVIFOR territory, Japan will bombard those targets for self-defence.

Japan had shown it is not interested in peace by its invasion, along with its willingness to use fire based weapons and its threats of atomics. Our zones in Vietnam are set for protective purposes and hence will continue to have our protection as we prepare the great liberation of Vietnam from the war loving hands of the Japanese military government. We need no rhetoric but that of justice as we prepare to face the imperial forces of Japan. We will be scorched if it would saves Vietnam from the Japanese fire.

Courage is the Warrior Caste's virtue!

You know what? the platonic republic has done a good job pointing out flaws with japans reasoning. and for pointing out things i missed, so we are giving Thessaloniki back to them.

..i'd rather not face them in combat. well, that, and they show more bravery than the Empire ever did.

From this day forward there is only one nationality in the Mediterranean: Mediterranean. Let us forsake the sins which inflicted against each other and embrace ourselves in a stance against the barbarians at the gates!

Greeks, Romans, Turks, Arabians, Italians, Spanish... all sub parts of the Mediterranean pan-nationality!

 

[Mathalamus]

From this day forward there is only one nationality in the Mediterranean: Mediterranean. Let us forsake the sins which inflicted against each other and embrace ourselves in a stance against the barbarians at the gates!

Greeks, Romans, Turks, Arabians, Italians, Spanish... all sub parts of the Mediterranean pan-nationality!

Technically... they were all part of the Roman Empire, so they can also be called... Romans.

(OOC: i couldn't resist...)

 

[Civ'ed]

Our peacekeepers are members of the Protective Caste and their virtue is courage. They are set to Vietnam to protect the Vietnese and if that involves facing the Japanese then so be it. They had prepared for it, for we had expected Japanese aggression towards the UN mission. Now it is time to stand up against Japan and its puppet for JUSTICE!

The peacekeepers are instructed to shoot in self-defense only. So far no Platonic UNVIFOR members have been killed by Japanese troops. This constitutes an act of aggression.

 

[Ailedhoo]

The peacekeepers are instructed to shoot in self-defense only. So far no Platonic UNVIFOR members have been killed by Japanese troops. This constitutes an act of aggression.

...and the burning of the Viennese by Japanese fire bombs is not aggressive because?

Mortal laws are nothing compared to the immortal laws of JUSTICE!

We suggest UNVIFOR realises its true mission and save Vietnam from the Japanese Empire!

 

[christos200]

Japan would like to note for the tenth time that when we bomb cities, we use smart bombs to avoid civilian casualties.

 

[Ailedhoo]

Your use of firebombing, military or otherwise, is a violation of the war charter, even when you were a member of the UN! Plus; how can you smart bomb with napalm? The fact your targeting cities demonstrates your intent to control the Viennese populace with fear!

Anyway the ultimate mission is to save Vietnam from any lose of sovereignty from the Japanese! We will not wait and allow the suffering to occur!

 

[JohannaK]

Viennese

Oh, please, people from Vienna deserve a better name than populace. Civilians or citizens suffice.

 

[Mathalamus]

the Roman Empire has to admit... the council of Hanoi is the closest thing there is to a Vietnamese government.

therefore, we will recognize their existence, and will support them if they are invaded by Japan.

however, we must stress this very clearly: the council of Hanoi will form a better government, be committed to the peace and security of its citizens. in general, act like a proper nation.

if they do not, they will be replaced by a proper government, by referendum conducted by the Roman Empire, and organized with assistance from said Empire.

 

[Ailedhoo]

We have set a peace offer to Japan; if they retract any declaration of war against the Council of Hanoi we will have peace in our time.

We do this for Justice!

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

Peacekeeping commander orders Greek withdrawal

HO CHI MINH CITY: Lieutenant-General Ahmad al-Karimi, field commander of the UN peacekeeping force in Vietnam, has ordered the combat contingent provided by the Platonic Republic out of the country. The order comes amid UN concerns that Greece intends to use UN-held territories as a staging ground in a possible war against Japan.

Requests by the United Arab Republic that the unit be subordinated to al-Karimi's command were rejected. Concerned that Athens would not uphold UNVIFOR's rules of engagement, which specifically prohibit peremptory aggression against Japanese forces, the general ordered the force's withdrawal, apparently at his own discretion.

In an emergency press conference, Diya Amirmuaz of the United Arab Republic upheld al-Karimi's decision as necessary to preserve the humanitarian auspices of the mission, and rebuked Athens for unilaterally attempting to rewrite the mission mandate: "For the Greek government to threaten the fragile peace established in southern Vietnam ... constitutes the most brazen contempt for rationality." Amirmuaz warned that "Any action taken by the Platonic Republic that jeopardizes the integrity of [UNVIFOR] ... will be met with severe repercussions."

The United Nations has not released an official response to the dispute.

 

[Ailedhoo]

The Platonic Republic sets the following message to the leadership of Japan...

Vietnam deserves better. We are willing to ignore the petty weakness of the UN and the arrogant cowardice of the UAR to save Vietnam from a lose of sovereignty. This includes the puppet you installed and yourself. However the Council of Henoi was the catalyst in the heat, for we are prepared for war in protection of the Council. Therefor... "if you want peace prepare for war" should be heeded. If you agree to cease your declaration of war against the Council of Henoi then the Protective Caste will not taste a battle against the Japanese.

Hence; for justice's sake have the courage to denounce your own declaration of war against the Council of Henoi and we in turn will not have to spring into its defence.

We do this for justice!

Nice joke. I laughed quite a lot. Thank you for entertaining me with this PM.

We are serious. If your not committed to peace then it is not the Platonic Republic that begins war and it is not us who will be the imperial aggressors.

By the way Japan; we are sharing your message (and ours) with both Rome and the UAR. We are also sharing this specific message with France, in honour of the victims of the chemical attack so they may see whether you are committed to peace or not.

I did not poison the French, but this is an other case. Anyway, UNVIFOR does not support you. UAR, who are my archenemies, do not support you. Only Rome supports you. Oh, and the Hanoi warlords that do not have a central government and fight each other, killing off a whole generation of Vietnamese. Also, since you support Hanoi, then why did you not protest at UNVIFOR's plan to invade it? We did not see you once to protest at this.

Anyway, from now on, you will meet our guns. And we are committed to peace, not Greek jokes.

This may be naïve but we will offer Japan one final chance for the sake of virtue and to see if they have the courage to accept peace.

We declare that the Council of Hanoi is the best option for Vietnam's sovereignty and as such would see the war against it by Japan and other factions as... problematic for the self-determination of the peoples of Vietnam.

The Japanese are determined to paint the Council as savage so that it can hide the imperial barbarism conducted by Japan against the peoples of Vietnam. Japan can repent however... if it commits to peace.

To commit to peace it would stop its threats against the Council of Hanoi. We are officially opening full alliance with the Council of Hanoi to protect it. We will be on the defensive; Japan has to only accept peace by renouncing their imperialist colonialism against the Council of Hanoi, who have the local elites necessary to set Vietnam's sovereignty, not the bureaucrats of the UN nor the administration of Japan's puppet.

Please... for peace's sake accept this last plea on behalf of the citizens of Vietnam. The Council of Hanoi are a necessity to restore sovereignty; we ask one last time for the sake of peace.

Peacekeeping commander orders Greek withdrawal

HO CHI MINH CITY: Lieutenant-General Ahmad al-Karimi, field commander of the UN peacekeeping force in Vietnam, has ordered the combat contingent provided by the Platonic Republic out of the country. The order comes amid UN concerns that Greece intends to use UN-held territories as a staging ground in a possible war against Japan.

Requests by the United Arab Republic that the unit be subordinated to al-Karimi's command were rejected. Concerned that Athens would not uphold UNVIFOR's rules of engagement, which specifically prohibit peremptory aggression against Japanese forces, the general ordered the force's withdrawal, apparently at his own discretion.

In an emergency press conference, Diya Amirmuaz of the United Arab Republic upheld al-Karimi's decision as necessary to preserve the humanitarian auspices of the mission, and rebuked Athens for unilaterally attempting to rewrite the mission mandate: "For the Greek government to threaten the fragile peace established in southern Vietnam ... constitutes the most brazen contempt for rationality." Amirmuaz warned that "Any action taken by the Platonic Republic that jeopardizes the integrity of [UNVIFOR] ... will be met with severe repercussions."

The United Nations has not released an official response to the dispute.

Our forces will be directed to the Council of Hanoi's territories for the sake of protecting Vietnam, something that the UN and the cowards of the UAR are defiantly bad at... if the Council of Hanoi permits us of course.

In the mean time: Japan has its last chance.

 

[Mathalamus]

the Roman Empire is... mixed as to what to do. we could either:

1. withdraw our military forces in support of the platonic Republic. an aircraft carrier, plus its battle group will be a very useful asset to them, but it might piss off the UAR, and the UN.

2. keep to the status quo, which might piss off the platonic republic, again.

the Emperor hates these kinds of decisions. but, we did note that the UAR did not respond whatsoever to Roman actions, backing up the platonic republic.

 

[Ailedhoo]

the Roman Empire is... mixed as to what to do. we could either:

1. withdraw our military forces in support of the platonic Republic. an aircraft carrier, plus its battle group will be a very useful asset to them, but it might piss off the UAR, and the UN.

2. keep to the status quo, which might piss off the platonic republic, again.

the Emperor hates these kinds of decisions. but, we did note that the UAR did not respond whatsoever to Roman actions, backing up the platonic republic.

Remember; if we do not show our might to protect the Council of Hanoi then it will sent the message that warmongers can get away with anything, while the UN and the UAR remain stuck on their arses.

It is not dishonourable to annoy cowards like the UAR.

 

[Mathalamus]

Remember; if we do not show our might to protect the Council of Hanoi then it will sent the message that warmongers can get away with anything, while the UN and the UAR remain stuck on their arses.

It is not dishonourable to annoy cowards like the UAR.

there are both sides to the argument. we are inviting the leaders of both platonic republic and the United Arab Republic, to convince me, Emperor Andreas I Laskaris, that their respective sides are better for Roman Glory.

 

[Civ'ed]

You are using peacekeeping as a mantle for a vendetta against a people half a world away.
How on Earth does that make sense.

 

[Ailedhoo]

there are both sides to the argument. we are inviting the leaders of both platonic republic and the United Arab Republic, to convince me, Emperor Andreas I Laskaris, that their respective sides are better for Roman Glory.

Which one would you want? The one which helps Vietnam, the underground, face off against the forces of Japan who have clearly shown aggression (they call peace offers "jokes," use fire based weapons and are to attack members of Vietnam's elite) or the one who reaction is to hinder those really committed to Vietnam's sovereignty?

 

[KaiserElectric]

Imperium OffTopicum XIV: Don't Care About Vietnam? Bugger Off!

Seriously, totally OOC moment right now, but the Vietnam fetish is getting out of hand.