Intergalactic War

Who Wins The Inter-Universal War?

  • Stargate Universe

    Votes: 20 22.7%

  • Star Trek Universe

    Votes: 23 26.1%

  • Star Wars Universe

    Votes: 35 39.8%

  • The Radioactive Monkeys from PCX9999 will pwn Them all!

    Votes: 10 11.4%
  • Total voters
    88
How could Stargate win? Stargate is 20th century Earth, learning how to use borrowed technology of the 'Ancients', with one ship. The Gates arent even under their control, theyre open to anyone to use, once you familiarize yourself with the system. Star Trek technology is incredibly advanced, they basically are the 'Ancients'. The Gaold, or however you spell it, and the wraiths are just fangs, deep voices and scary music with little substance.
 
I do have to admit one thing though:

Stargaters do have knowledge of the star trek and star wars universes through their works of 'fiction.' Meanwhile star trek and star wars universes have no knowledge of the other 2.
 
Warman17 said:
I do have to admit one thing though:

Stargaters do have knowledge of the star trek and star wars universes through their works of 'fiction.' Meanwhile star trek and star wars universes have no knowledge of the other 2.
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Tut-tut my good man:nono: All Star Trek has to do to learn all about Stargate is search their database for popular sci fi television series in the late 20th and early 21st century. Remember theyre in the 'future';)
 
Daleks would exterminate all who opposed them but out of those options i would have to say star trek for the win
 
Bozo Erectus said:
Id pick Star Trek, merely because the Federation and Starfleet are coherent and well organized. In a head to head battle, the best organized side almost always wins, especially when significantly outnumbered. The less organized side mistakenly sees strength in numbers, and weakens itself even further as a result. The Stargate and Star Wars sides have big scary ships, and villains with deep echoey voices but that doesnt amount to ___ in a fight. The SW Empire might last a little longer, but Starfleet would barely work up a sweat knocking them out of the ring. Compared to the Borg, the SW Empire is a friggin joke.
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Organization doesn't mean much when your weapons can barely make a noticible dent in the enemy's shields and armour, while their weapons Leave you a crippled wreck in an single volley.

Ever heard of Photon Grenades? Their the exact same thing, but used by the Federation. Not to mention that the can be beamed in just before they beam in the troops...
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A Weapon which ash not been seen anywhere in the Federation since the time of Kirk - When men were real men, The Federation was not some hippy Utopia, and the Giant space Ameoba roamed free. (Until its encounter with said real Men.)

As for Stargate the Goa'uld would die immediatly as the Federation/Klingons/Romulans wiped their ass. The Asgard/Ori would be much more difficult, but would die because of lack of numbers as Bio-Ships/Borg swarmed them. The Replicators would give the Borg a run for their money, but would eventualy be assimilated into the collective.
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Fed ships are far slower, and less powerful than those typicly seen in Stargate - and while Jaffa are incompetant, Redshirts fair just as poorly.

Alright, the Stargate universe is taking place in our time frame. That means Jack Bauer is available as well as Colonel/General O'Neill. Come on you tunnel vision Star Wars fanboys, when are you going to realize that the Stargate universe would wipe the floor with storm trooper arse?
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Ah, but Wars has Sameul L. Jackson, and Yoda. You just don't mess with the little green man. :cool:
 
Yuri2356 said:
Organization doesn't mean much when your weapons can barely make a noticible dent in the enemy's shields and armour, while their weapons Leave you a crippled wreck in an single volley.
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Bah, come on, whats the baddest thing in the SW universe, the Death Star? It was destroyed by a little one man fighter, with one explosive device shot down a vent, or whatever that hole was.
 
Bozo Erectus said:
Bah, come on, whats the baddest thing in the SW universe, the Death Star? It was destroyed by a little one man fighter, with one explosive device shot down a vent, or whatever that hole was.
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A shot that only succeeded because, in essence, God willed it so. The Force guided that pair of torpedoes into their intended resting place, it was all about a triumph of faith over technology. Besides, it's a 2-Metre wide exaust port on the side of a 160kM wide sphere. No one's going to find it unless they can get their hands on the designs, and after that they'd still need to analyze them and make the attack run without the very essence of the universe helping them aim.
 
Bozo Erectus said:
Bah, come on, whats the baddest thing in the SW universe, the Death Star? It was destroyed by a little one man fighter, with one explosive device shot down a vent, or whatever that hole was.
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To be fair, they fixed that with the second death star. It's main problem was that it was that it had a huge hole in the side, with Millennium Falcon-sized construction shafts that led to the main reactor. Had it been completed I'm sure it would have been more formidable, and less liable to explode.
 
Bozo Erectus said:
Bah, come on, whats the baddest thing in the SW universe, the Death Star? It was destroyed by a little one man fighter, with one explosive device shot down a vent, or whatever that hole was.
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Baddest thing? I would say either the Sun Crusher, Centerpoint Station, or the Galaxy gun.

Sun Crusher has the capability to survive falling into a gas giant, and be retrieved in working condition, and cause stars to go supernova. Centerpoint station is powerful enough to tractor beam in a whole star, can cause planets and stars to explode by collapsing their cores, and has also been used to vaporize a third of the Yuuzhan Vong Fleet and half of the Hapan fleet fighting each other, and still has enough power to continue far off into space, and vaporize half of a moon. The Galaxy Gun can fire hyperspace capable planet destroying shells that are nearly indestructable because of their shielding and armor.

But, if they finished Death Star II, that thing would have no real weaknesses; millimeter wide dispersion ducts, much tighter shields and turret grid, more accurate targeting computers, capability to fire that superlaser every few minutes at capital ship sized objects, etc. Only way to destroy it is for a massive assault and hope you don't get superlasered.
 
Yuri2356 said:
A shot that only succeeded because, in essence, God willed it so. The Force guided that pair of torpedoes into their intended resting place, it was all about a triumph of faith over technology. Besides, it's a 2-Metre wide exaust port on the side of a 160kM wide sphere. No one's going to find it unless they can get their hands on the designs, and after that they'd still need to analyze them and make the attack run without the very essence of the universe helping them aim.
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Well, it would take a hell of alot of faith and Gods will to destroy a Federation Starship in such a ridiculous way. Besides, the Q Continuum probably would prevent the intrusion into the Star Trek universe by Godly entities or forces from the other franchises.
Kan' Sharuminar said:
To be fair, they fixed that with the second death star. It's main problem was that it was that it had a huge hole in the side, with Millennium Falcon-sized construction shafts that led to the main reactor. Had it been completed I'm sure it would have been more formidable, and less liable to explode.
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Two words: No shields. Without shielding technology, its just a pile of hardware set up for shooting practice.
 
Well, it would take a hell of alot of faith and Gods will to destroy a Federation Starship in such a ridiculous way. Besides, the Q Continuum probably would prevent the intrusion into the Star Trek universe by Godly entities or forces from the other franchises.
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A Federation starship was once nearly destroyed by a block of Cheese.

Advantage, Wars.

And Q has been forcibly excluded from this debate as per the OP.

Two words: No shields. Without shielding technology, its just a pile of hardware set up for shooting practice.
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Because it wasn't finished yet. Or did you not notice the good 1/4 of the ship that simply wasn't there?

Once completed, it would have shields.
 
Bozo Erectus said:
Two words: No shields. Without shielding technology, its just a pile of hardware set up for shooting practice.
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I don't think it had a shield generator in place at the time, which is why it relied on the Endor moon. The first one had a shield capable of holding back big ships, just not "small one man fighters" (IIRC the quote correctly). The second would probably have one in place.

That said, in my opinion Star Wars has always been a bit iffy with it's shield systems, apparently placing the shield generator's outside the shields themselves (Dooku's ship in Episode III, Star Destroyers - even Vader's SSD's shield generator was taken out by a couple of fighters).
 
Bluemofia said:
Baddest thing? I would say either the Sun Crusher, Centerpoint Station, or the Galaxy gun.

Sun Crusher has the capability to survive falling into a gas giant, and be retrieved in working condition, and cause stars to go supernova. Centerpoint station is powerful enough to tractor beam in a whole star, can cause planets and stars to explode by collapsing their cores, and has also been used to vaporize a third of the Yuuzhan Vong Fleet and half of the Hapan fleet fighting each other, and still has enough power to continue far off into space, and vaporize half of a moon. The Galaxy Gun can fire hyperspace capable planet destroying shells that are nearly indestructable because of their shielding and armor.

But, if they finished Death Star II, that thing would have no real weaknesses; millimeter wide dispersion ducts, much tighter shields and turret grid, more accurate targeting computers, capability to fire that superlaser every few minutes at capital ship sized objects, etc. Only way to destroy it is for a massive assault and hope you don't get superlasered.
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What about the Tarkin? Very small, hard to find, but potent enough to crack a planet in two.

Also, the Death Star II had an amazing 900km diameter, as compared to the Death Star I, at a pathetic 160km. Combined with the other features you mentioned, this battlestation would have been most fearsome indeed.


NC, the working range of the Death Star's Superlaser was 420,000km, not the 75000 or whatever you said.
 
Kan' Sharuminar said:
That said, in my opinion Star Wars has always been a bit iffy with it's shield systems, apparently placing the shield generator's outside the shields themselves (Dooku's ship in Episode III, Star Destroyers - even Vader's SSD's shield generator was taken out by a couple of fighters).
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Actually, the Globe-Dealies on Star Destroyers have since been indentified as very large sensors. (Like those radar-bubbles you see at airports) The Shields went down because the Rebel fleet was concentrating fire on them.
 
Kan' Sharuminar said:
That said, in my opinion Star Wars has always been a bit iffy with it's shield systems, apparently placing the shield generator's outside the shields themselves (Dooku's ship in Episode III, Star Destroyers - even Vader's SSD's shield generator was taken out by a couple of fighters).
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Well what happenned was that the Rebel fleet concentrated their fire at the bridge shields of the Executor (when Ackbar says "concentrate all your fire on that Super Star Destroyer), which brought down the shields around the bridge. That's what allowed them to take out the shield generators, but again, only around the bridge; not all of Executor's shields went down.
 
Warman17 said:
I do have to admit one thing though:

Stargaters do have knowledge of the star trek and star wars universes through their works of 'fiction.' Meanwhile star trek and star wars universes have no knowledge of the other 2.
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In Atlantis, they specifically reference the Enterprise in a humorous/geeky fashion; implying that there are "Trekkies" in the SG universe.

I've been looking at the SG specs; there are a few 'superweapons' which seem really impressive (one weapon capable of destroying all life in a galaxy IIRC). Something like that would negate all the advantages held by the awesome firepower of the SW universe.
 
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