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Right of Passage with Cleopatra.
Create an irrigation pathway through their lands up to yours.
Create an irrigation pathway through their lands up to yours.
Is Irrigation worth War?
- Thread starter zaphod2016
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Tasslehoff
Kender
If he can figure out how to upload the save, you should be able to play anyway. Save files work the same on macs and pcs.
joycem10
Deity
If this is Conquests he could give the world seed.
RickFGS
Deity
nice one 
AznWarlord
Monarch
Yeah in the Fall of Rome Scenario, I built a city light years away from a river. So I built hordes of workers and irrigated from the closest river through my road system until it finally hit my dry city. I guess you could o the same by stealing irrigation systems.
bustedsynapses
Chieftain
If you have a poorly sited town, and everyone has expanded to the limit, abandon it. The AI civs will send settlers. Kill the guards as they land and accept the slave deliveries. Use them to clear the wetlands. what do you care if you're at war with several civs overseas? If you don't take their towns, they won't be furious, and will eventually make peace after several ineffective sea assaults. Won't affect your rep, nor your standing with them. They eventually get over it. In fact, I find the AI civs are very forgiving of wars fought during land-grab stages, as long as you take no towns. I've done this many times, and built up a force early of some 10-20 slave workers. I then take my homegrown worlers, and add them into the settlement that I eventuall re-site to fill in the empty area, after I decide that I have enough slaves.
zaphod2016
Warlord
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FYI: This was in regards to a "Vanilla" game.
UPDATE: My computer died, and I lost my saved game.
Although I wasn't able to get this exact scenerio back, I have experimented a few times to see how well your advice would work.
1. I was able to snag 4 slaves from the surrounding Civs, and then attempted to clear a path through the jungle. Even with 12 industrious workers, irrigating a path through jungle takes a long time. Also: I needed to protect my worker stack with several units because the barbarians were all over the place. I rate this strategy D+ with industrious, and F otherwise.
2. Instead of workers, I tried again with settlers, and built a line of cities through the jungle. Bad idea. I was forced to spread my armies across a half-dozen worthless cities because the other civs tried to steal them as soon as they reached size 2. Also, because they were surrounded by jungle, they kept shrinking from disease. I ended up with a German camp in the middle of my irrigation line before I was able to bring water back to my original territory. F-
3. I researched Iron Working, developed my arid homeland, and then pumped out a stack of swordsmen to conquer my continent. This was much, much faster than an army of workers, and unlike the line-of-cities strategy, I maintained my population and production power. C+
4. I popped a city at the edge of the foreign irrigation, used a rush-build temple and library to generate culture, and "stole" a few boxes of irrigation. I then worked backward from this colony, putting lots of cities close together to get rid of as much jungle as possible, and using workers to irrigate back to my capital. This was much faster than #1 because I used 100% homegrown labor. Also, by the time I had irrigated the first "colony", it was a size 4, and became my new worker farm. By the time I returned to the capital, I had 40+ workers, and my neighbors were all in awe of my culture (rush). B+
5. I held a grudge for 6,000 years, and then obliterated the foreign farmlands with nukes. Not very helpful to my early-game strategy, but very, very satisfying. A+++.
UPDATE: My computer died, and I lost my saved game.
Although I wasn't able to get this exact scenerio back, I have experimented a few times to see how well your advice would work.
1. I was able to snag 4 slaves from the surrounding Civs, and then attempted to clear a path through the jungle. Even with 12 industrious workers, irrigating a path through jungle takes a long time. Also: I needed to protect my worker stack with several units because the barbarians were all over the place. I rate this strategy D+ with industrious, and F otherwise.
2. Instead of workers, I tried again with settlers, and built a line of cities through the jungle. Bad idea. I was forced to spread my armies across a half-dozen worthless cities because the other civs tried to steal them as soon as they reached size 2. Also, because they were surrounded by jungle, they kept shrinking from disease. I ended up with a German camp in the middle of my irrigation line before I was able to bring water back to my original territory. F-
3. I researched Iron Working, developed my arid homeland, and then pumped out a stack of swordsmen to conquer my continent. This was much, much faster than an army of workers, and unlike the line-of-cities strategy, I maintained my population and production power. C+
4. I popped a city at the edge of the foreign irrigation, used a rush-build temple and library to generate culture, and "stole" a few boxes of irrigation. I then worked backward from this colony, putting lots of cities close together to get rid of as much jungle as possible, and using workers to irrigate back to my capital. This was much faster than #1 because I used 100% homegrown labor. Also, by the time I had irrigated the first "colony", it was a size 4, and became my new worker farm. By the time I returned to the capital, I had 40+ workers, and my neighbors were all in awe of my culture (rush). B+
5. I held a grudge for 6,000 years, and then obliterated the foreign farmlands with nukes. Not very helpful to my early-game strategy, but very, very satisfying. A+++.
