Is the AI really this sneaky...?

[VimesUK]

Hello

Here was me building up a lovely stack of Medieval Infantry to start my Southern campaign into Spain when right up in the North the Dutch declared war on me. No big problem, as such, although it has delayed my Spanish invasion. So with the odd piece of gold a few other Civs (including Spain) have declared war on the Dutch in my support but my amazement
was....

I had a ROP agreement with the Dutch, 15 turns to go, and even though my Northern cities bordering them have been guarded quite well (just got saltpetre and thus Musketmen) I was still a little surprised to find that they were within my borders under the ROP and then started attacking me with the few carefully placed archers who then grabbed a handful of my workers.

I now know that I am wrong but I had thought that the AI sticks by their ROP agreement...?

But I will know in the future

 

[daufoi]

I've had the AI break ROP on me before. I had Mongols on one side of me and Persians on the other. Persians had a resource (iron I think) that I didn't so I tried to make friends with them (had an ROP) and went to war with the Mongols. Persia ended up entering my land and attacking me. Later on, I found out that Persia had no one bordering its other side so I figured it wanted to start a war but had no one else to do it with.

 

[VimesUK]

So it isn't that rare then for the AI to break its ROP agreements.
Well I thought that as the Dutch were "polite" to me and that my military might totally outclassed them then they wouldn't have done what they have. Still my tour and expansion of the world continues, albeit in another direction. And the Spanish are now my allies, funny old world isn't it

 

[juballs2001]

happened to me with my last game, i was invading the incans in the early industrial ages, and i had a MPP with Japan, they were gracious and we had ROP Alliances, everything and out of no where my advisor says we have lost our source of ivory, incense and silks, and then the japanese declared war, and behold, they had about 20 calvalry waiting for me, out of plain sight, got 2 towns, whoch i took the next turn

 

[citizen001]

Do they get a rep hit from doing that?

 

[Flintlock]

Do they get a rep hit from doing that?

AFAIK, yes
Which is why I always sign a RoP with a civ that's about to sneak attack me. Of course, they usually end up loosing the war anyway, so it doesn't really matter that much I guess.

 

[Strato]

I had the exact same thing happen to me. I only just signed a ROP, and then next turn, an Ottoman army, that I had been very friendly with since the start of the game (and I was now in the modern age) basically came into my borders and wiped me out. I think the trigger was the fact that I had a massive army about to be deployed to take out a civ on another continent. It was sneaky, and all this happened on Warlord difficulty believe it or not.

 

[microbe]

AFAIK, yes
Which is why I always sign a RoP with a civ that's about to sneak attack me.

Which is not necessary. They should get a RoP rep hit for the sneak attack anyway.

 

[VimesUK]

Now that I have responded to the Dutch attack and taken many of their cities it has come time for them to appeal to me for a peace treaty. As it is it would be my advantage to continue with their total annihilation and secure the northern coast. But if I wanted to have agreed to a peace treaty would that be in violation of the agreement that I asked for when I paid other Civs to attack the Dutch in my defence, those agreements still have several turns to go when the Dutch approached me..? As I have noticed at times other Civs that have agreed to join in a war have signed peace treaties earlier than the 20 turns of the agreement, but does that mean that they would have suffered a rep hit by doing that...?

 

[daufoi]

Yes, I think that's how it works. Unless you go back to was with them. Then, you would regain whatever rep hits you took.

 

[Bluemofia]

The Japanese burglarized my capital and a military great leader that way!