Is there a lack of Native American and African wonders?

Is there a HUGE lack of Native Amrican and African wonders??


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only problem is that too many wonders create unbalances..so if any of these new wonders are made then someone should figure out how to create a type of balance

if this balance cant be solved i would still like theese wonders:D
 
only problem is that too many wonders create unbalances..so if any of these new wonders are made then someone should figure out how to create a type of balance

if this balance cant be solved i would still like theese wonders

well I argree with you totaly I am wondering that my self???Possably haveing some wonders avlibal to certin civs and here is some info (for the burial mound pyrimad of the moon,sun fetered serpant,codex and the stellea sorry for my spelling it would be helpful if you colud replace the info I have with the ones in Civ 3 conqusets) anyway here is some info

The origin of the word Zimbabwe is not known, but there are two schools of thought. It could be short form for "ziimba remabwe", a Shona (dialect: chiKaranga) term, which means "the great or big house built of stones". A second theory is that Zimbabwe is a contracted form of "dzimba woye" which means "venerated houses," a term usually reserved for chiefs' houses or graves. Most of the original architecture has been destroyed by age and to a large extent by excavations done in the belief that the complex had some hidden mineral wealth. Great Zimbabwe is, in fact, just one of the hundreds of great stone ruins in Zimbabwe. Built consistently throughout the period from the years AD 400 to the 15th century, the ruins at Great Zimbabwe are some of the oldest and largest structures located in Sub-Saharan Africa. At its peak, estimates are that the ruins of Great Zimbabwe had as many as 18,000 inhabitants. Built entirely of stone (those parts that survive), the ruins span 1,800 acres (7 km²) and cover a radius of 100 to 200 miles (160 to 320 km). An illustration of how the Great Zimbabwe ruins may have once looked.In 1531, Viçente Pegado, Captain of the Portuguese Garrison of Sofala, described Zimbabwe thus:
"Among the gold mines of the inland plains between the Limpopo and Zambezi rivers there is a fortress built of stones of marvelous size, and there appears to be no mortar joining them.... This edifice is almost surrounded by hills, upon which are others resembling it in the fashioning of stone and the absence of mortar, and one of them is a tower more than 12 fathoms [22 m] high. The natives of the country call these edifices Symbaoe, which according to their language signifies court."
The ruins can be broken down into three distinct architectural groups. They are known as the Hill Complex, the Valley Complex and the famous Great Enclosure. Over 300 structures have been located so far in the Great Enclosure. The type of stone structures found on the site give an indication of the status of the citizenry. Structures that were more elaborate were built for the kings and situated further away from the center of the city. It is thought that this was done in order to escape sleeping sickness.
What little evidence exists suggests that Great Zimbabwe also became a centre for trading, with artifacts suggesting that the city formed part of a trade network extending as far as China.
Nobody knows for sure why the site was eventually abandoned. Perhaps it was due to drought, perhaps due to disease or it simply could be that the decline in the gold trade forced the people who inhabited Great Zimbabwe to look for greener pastures.
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The Serpent Mound is a 1,330 feet long and three feet high effigy mound located on a plateau along Ohio Brush Creek in Adams County, Ohio. It is the largest effigy earthwork in the world. The mound is located in a unique crypto explosion structure that contains faulted and folded bedrock, which is usually either produced by a meteorite or volcanic explosion. This crypto explosion structure has caused Serpent Mound to become misshapen over the years. The Serpent mound is the largest effigy mound in the world. While there are several burial mounds around the Serpent mound site, the Serpent itself does not contain any human remains and wasn't constructed for burial purposes. The head of the serpent is aligned to the summer solstice sunset and the snake’s coils align with the winter solstice sunrise and the equinox sunrise. It is thought that perhaps the mound was created as a response to astrological occurrences. The carbon dating attribution of 1070 coincides with two significant astronomic events: The appearance of Halley's Comet in 1066 and the light from the supernova that created Crab Nebula in 1054. This light was visible for two weeks after it first reached earth, even during the day. There is speculation that the serpent mound was to emulate a comet, slithering across the night sky like a snake. The serpent mound sits on a very unusual place. It rests on a plateau, which conceals a unique crypto-volcanic geological feature. This is one of the only places in North America where such an occurrence is seen. Though the meaning is grounds for debate, the mound's placement on such an area is almost undoubtedly not by coincidence.

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Moai are statues carved of compressed volcanic ash on Rapa Nui (Easter Island). The statues are all monolithic, that is, carved in one piece. They may weigh more than 20 tons and be more than 20 feet tall. One unfinished sculpture has been found that would have been 69 feet tall and would have weighed about 270 tons.
Less than about one-fifth of the statues that were moved to ceremonial sites and then erected once had red stone cylinders (pukau) placed on their heads. These "topknots," as they are often called, were carved in a single quarry known as Puna Pau. About 95% of the 887 moai known to date were carved out of compressed volcanic ash at Rano Raraku, where 394 moai still remain visible today. Recent GPS mapping in the interior will certainly add additional moai to that count. The quarries in Rano Raraku appear to have been abandoned abruptly, with many incomplete statues still in situ. However, the pattern of work is very complex and is still being studied. Practically all of the completed moai that were moved from Rano Raraku and erected upright on ceremonial platforms were subsequently toppled by native islanders in the period after construction ceased. Although usually identified as "heads" only, the moai are actually one piece figures with heads and truncated torsos. Maps of Easter Island showing locations of Moai
In recent years, toppled moai have been found untouched and face-down. This led to the discovery that the famous deep eye sockets of the moai were designed to hold coral eyes. Replica eyes have been constructed and placed in some statues for photographs, as can be seen in the Easter Island entry.
The most widely-accepted theory is that the statues were carved by the Polynesian colonizers of the island beginning by about A.D. 1000–1100. In addition to representing deceased ancestors, the moai, once they were erect on ceremonial sites, may also have been regarded as the embodiment of powerful living chiefs. They were also important lineage status symbols. The moai were carved by a distinguished class of professional carvers who were comparable in status to high-ranking members of other Polynesian craft guilds. The statues must have been extremely expensive to craft; not only would the actual carving of each statue require effort and resources, but the finished product was then hauled to its final location and erected. It is not known exactly how the moai were moved but the process almost certainly required human energy, ropes, wooden sledges and/or rollers. Another theory is that the moai may have been "walked" by rocking them forward. (Pavel Pavel and his successful experiment (1986) showed that only 17 people with ropes are needed for relatively fast transportation of the statues). By the mid-1800s, all the moai outside of Rano Raraku and many within the quarry itself had been knocked over. Today, about 50 moai have been re-erected on their ceremonial sites.
Ancient Island legends speak of a clan chief called Hotu Matu'a, who left his original home in search of a new one. The place he chose is now known to us as Easter Island. When he died, the island was divided between his six sons and then, later, sub-divided among their descendants. The islanders may have believed that their statues would capture the chiefs' "mana" (supernatural powers). They may have believed that by concentrating mana on the island good things would result, rain would fall and crops would grow. The settlement legend is a fragment of what was surely a much more complicated and many-faceted, mythic sketch, and it has changed over time.
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The Nazca Lines are gigantic geoglyphs located in the Nazca Desert, a high arid plateau that stretches 53 miles between the towns of Nazca and Palpa on the Pampas de Jumana in Peru. They were created by the Nazca culture between 200 BC and 600 AD. There are hundreds of individual figures, ranging in complexity from simple lines to stylized hummingbirds, spiders, monkeys, and lizards. The Nazca lines cannot be recognized as coherent figures except from the air. Since it is presumed the Nazca people could never have seen their work from this vantage point, there has been much speculation on the builders' abilities and motivations.

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Cahokia was a Native American city located near Collinsville in the west-central part of the U.S. state of Illinois, across the Mississippi River from St. Louis, Missouri, in the American Bottom floodplain. Cahokia is best known for large, man-made earthen structures, known popularly as mounds, the largest of which is Monk's Mound; as well as its timber circles named Woodhenge after Stonehenge, as both structures marked the solstices, equinoxes and other astronomical events. Cahokia Mounds was designated a National Historic Landmark on July 19, 1964, and on October 15, 1966 was listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site, designated as a World Heritage Site in 1982, protects 2200 acres (8.9 km²) of the area of the mounds (but more of the site is on private land) and is the site of ongoing archaeological excavations. Cahokia is one of the best known sites of the Mississippian culture and the term "Cahokian" is sometimes used to describe the culture.
The site was first settled around 650 during the Late Woodland period. Mound building did not begin here until 1050 at the beginning of the Mississippian period, and the site was abandoned between 1250 and 1400. The original name of the city is unknown and the inhabitants appear to have not employed writing. The name Cahokia is that of an unrelated clan of Illiniwek that was living in the area when the first French explorers arrived in the early 17th century. The Osage Nation, Omaha, Ponca, Quapaw and others are believed to be the direct descendants of the Mississippian culture but no stories referring to the city of Cahokia were ever recorded among the tribes.

Monk's Mound is protected as part of Illinois' Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site.


Monks Mound in July
Monk's Mound is the largest man-made earthen mound in North America at about 100 feet (30.5 m) high and a base of 1,037 by 790 feet (316 by 241 m). A large building, possibly the residence of the city's paramount chief, originally stood on the top of the mound. This single building was 105 feet long, 48 feet wide and about 50 feet high. A 50 acre (200,000 m²) plaza stood in front of the mound. The Cahokia site contains several types of mounds - flat-top, conical and ridge-top mounds, which possibly had different functions. More than 120 mounds are thought to have existed. Of these, 109 have been located and 68 are preserved in the park.
During the Pre-Columbian era, Cahokia was, for a time, the largest North American city north of the Mesoamerican cities of central Mexico. It was one of two major centers of a group of peoples known now as the Mound Builders.
The city population is thought to have been around 1,000 until about the year 1050 when the population exploded to tens of thousands. Estimates of the city's peak population range from 8,000 to 40,000, with scattered farmsteads and farming villages surrounding and supplying it. There were trade links between Cahokia and sites as far away as southern Minnesota and the Gulf Coast. Pottery and stone tools in the Cahokia style were common at the Silvernail archaeological site near Red Wing, Minnesota. Until c. 1800, no North American city north of Mexico would be larger than Cahokia had been at its peak (Around 1800, Philadelphia broke Cahokia's record).
Environmental factors, such as overhunting and deforestation, have been proposed for the city's decline and abandonment. Another suspected culprit is destruction by nomadic tribes moving into the area and wiping out the thus-weakened civilization. However, no physical evidence of warfare of any kind has been found, despite the existence of a high wall with guard posts. Diseases such as cholera and typhoid, with vectors facilitated by large, dense populations are other possible causes of the rapid depopulation of the Cahokia area. More current models propose political collapse as the primary cause of the Cahokian decline.
The city and its more than 100 mounds (not all of them surviving) is laid out on a diamond-shape area approximately a mile from end-to-end. The flatness of this plaza was originally thought to be due to the fact that the city sits on an alluvial flood plain created by the nearby Mississippi River, but soil studies revealed that original soil was undulating and had been expertly levelled. This means that Cahokia can boast the largest man-made plaza in the world to this day.
During the excavation of Mound 72, a ridge-top burial mound, archeologists found the remains of someone who was probably an important ruler, a male in his 40s. He was buried on a bed of more than 20,000 marine-shell disc beads laid in the shape of a falcon. A typical motif of the Mississippian culture is the birdman. Nearby were caches of arrowheads of a variety of materials and styles which indicate a widespread geographic origin. The arrowheads were separated into four types, each from a different region in North America, indicating extensive trade links. Over 250 other skeletons were recovered from the mound, most from mass graves and some males missing hands and heads which seem to indicate that they were human sacrifices, but it is unlikely that they were all deposited at the time of the important ruler's burial. Wood in several parts of the mound has been radiocarbon-dated to 950–1000 AD

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The Pyramid of the Sun is the second largest building constructed in pre-hispanic Mesoamerica. The pyramid is located at the site of the ancient pre-Aztec city of Teotihuacan, about 25 miles northeast of the modern Mexico City. Found along the Street of the Dead, in between the Pyramid of the Moon and the Ciudadela, and in the shadow of the massive mountain Cerro Gordo, the pyramid is part of a large complex in the heart of the city. Named the Pyramid of the Sun by the Aztecs centuries after the city of Teotihuacán was abandoned, the name given to the pyramid by the Teotihuacanos is unknown. It was constructed in two phases. The first construction stage, around 100 A.D., brought the pyramid to nearly the size it is today. The second round of construction resulted in its completed size of 738 feet across and 246 feet high, making it the third largest pyramid in the world. The second phase also saw the construction of an altar atop of the pyramid, which has not survived into modern times. The Adosada platform was added to the pyramid in the early third century, at around the same time that the Ciudadela and Pyramid of the Plummed Serpent were constructed.
Over the structure the ancient Teotihuacanos finished their pyramid with lime plaster imported from surrounding areas, on which they painted brilliantly colored murals. While the pyramid has endured for centuries, the paint and plaster have not and are no longer visible. Few images are thought to have been included in the mural decorations on the sides of the pyramid. Jaguar heads and paws, stars, and snake rattles are among the few images associated with the pyramids.
It is thought that the pyramid venerated some deity of in Teotihucan society, but what god is still unknown. The destruction of the temple on top of the pyramid, by both deliberate and natural forces prior to the archaeological study of the site, prohibited the determination of who the temple may have been dedicated to. Some scholars have suggested that the deity of the pyramid was the Great Goddess, one of two major Teotihuacan deities and one of the few goddesses in ancient Mesoamerica. However, little evidence exists to support this theory.
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"Teotihuacán" (teh-oh-tee-wah-kahn) is a Nahuatl name, translated as "city where men become gods." According to legend it was where the Gods gathered to plan the creation of man.
Construction of Teotihuacán commenced around 300 BC, with the Pyramid of the Sun built by 150 BC. The city reached its zenith approx. 150–450 AD, when it was the center of an influential culture. At its height the city covered over 30 km² (over 11½ square miles), and probably housed a population of over 150,000 people, possibly as many as 200,000. Teotihuacán was an important source of obsidian and there was extensive trade with other regions of Mesoamerica.
The city's broad central avenue, called "Avenue of the Dead" (a translation from its Nahuatl name Miccaohtli), is still flanked by impressive ceremonial architecture, including the immense Pyramid of the Sun (second largest in the New World after the Great Pyramid of Cholula), the Pyramid of the Moon, the Temple of Quetzalcoatl or Temple of the Feathered Serpent, and many lesser temples and palaces.
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Site map on location at Teotihuacán
The Aztec named those pyramids according to their own beliefs, but the "Sun pyramid" was really dedicated to Tlaloc, and was built over a cave, probably considered sacred. Unfortunately the cave content was stolen, possibly in prehispanic times. The Moon pyramid was dedicated to Tlaloc´s consort Chalchihuitlicue and was used also as a burial site for important people.
Unfortunately no ancient Teotihuacano non-ideographic texts are known to exist (or known to have existed), but the city is occasionally referred to in the texts of Maya monuments, showing that Teotihuacán nobility travelled to and married with the families of local rulers as far away as Honduras. Maya hieroglyphs mention an individual nicknamed by scholars as "Spearthrower Owl", apparently Emperor of Teotihuacán, who reigned for over 60 years and imposed his relatives as kings of Tikal and Uaxactun in Guatemala. Most of what we infer about the culture at Teotihuacan comes from the murals that adorn the site and others, like the Wagner Murals, found in private collections.
It was previously believed that sometime during the 7th or 8th centuries, the city was sacked and burned by invaders, possibly the Toltecs. More recent evidence, however, seems to indicate that the burning was limited to the structures and dwellings associated primarily with the elite class. The slums and poorer districts were almost untouched. Many now claim this is evidence that the burning was from an internal uprising and that the invasion theory is flawed due to the fact that early archaeological work on the city was focused exclusively on the palaces and temples, places used by the elites, and because all of these sites showed burning. Archaeologists concluded that the whole city was burned. Instead, it is now known that the destruction in the city was focused on the power symbols: Some statues seem to have been destroyed in a methodical way, their fragments dispersed.
In rebuttal, advocates of the invasion hypothese point to the mural paintings of Cacaxtla, a rival city, in which was found a battle painting featuring the glyph of Teotihuacan over a burning pyramid, the Mesoamerican symbol of a conquered city, which could mean that there really was an attack on Teotihuacan, led by Cacaxtla. However, it was not unknown for ancient rulers to falsely claim victory over foes.
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sorry for putting so much info aslo :confused: :confused:
the sorce i got it from was wikipedia.com
 
chef pablo said:
During the french indian war the french traded with the huron tribes and gave them muskets ,so they did have weapons,its simply that thier numbers were decimated.If they handnt brought all these nasty bugs with them it would have been a prime minister bohta situation for the eurpeans.

ROFLMAO... obviously French gave Hurons weapons because Hurons were not a threat. If the native american tribes were so militarily organized as you guys are trying to "prove" ( :lol: ) do you think the French would have provided them with muskets ? Man, this is getting really ludicrous...
 
have some respect people,I grew up in oklamoma which is where a lot of tribes ended up.we created a society of dependants, alchoholics, people with no self worth .this is slowly on the mend but we didnt take any action to help and we should be ashamed.
We didnt do this by gloriously going into battle defeating because we were more advanced,no we did it by trickery and deceite,we starved and poisoned the people,killed leaders under false pretense,Made them dependant on our supplies.If you think that our mastery of gunpowder did the "primitives" in than ask shaka or sitting bull im sure they would have something to say.
slavicsouix is obviosly part sioux a proud nation that first we took away thier way of life by killing off the buffalo then we poisoned them by giving them blankets laced with cholera and small pox and after all this they banded together with the Arapaho,Arikara,Chayenne,Crow and Santee they defeited the US calvary at little big horn,they learned our tactics they traded for our weapons and defeited us at our own game.
The "primitives" helped the colonists through their first winter here,taught a nation in its infincy about guirrila tactics .if it wasnt for the "primitives"we may have never gotten our indipendence,may have never become a nation to come to europes aide durring a dark time,so have a little respect.
 
You can't pretend that people with minimal intelligence and knowledge agree with you with the fact that native americans were a great power only because you americans regret to be the descendants of the protagonists of one of the biggest genocides of human history. Do you really think that by deeming native americans a great power that would have kicked the europeans back into the ocean had they not fall to small pox, you're going to amend anything ?
I can have all respect you want for native americans, and exactly for this reason I'm not goint to lie about them. I don't even think they belong to a game like Civ, since this starts stating that your people abandoned nomadism, while most native american tribes never even reached this stage. With this I don't mean disrespect at all... actually I'm very fond of nomadic or prehistoric way of life.
 
the only nomadic tribes in North america were the plains indians and that came about with the inroduction of horses there are massive sites all over the americas with evedince of permanite settlements .yeah they were way behind in technology but that didnt mean they couldnt compensate to defend themselves.if its your veiw that the natives in the americas were still in the stoneage and therefore had nothing to contribute to the world than you need to take a closer look.
if you dont have any respect for what they were than have some empathy for what they are now and some respect for what they are becoming.
 
chef pablo said:
the only nomadic tribes in North america were the plains indians and that came about with the inroduction of horses there are massive sites all over the americas with evedince of permanite settlements

nothing really proved and it's not all over at all.

if its your veiw that the natives in the americas were still in the stoneage and therefore had nothing to contribute to the world than you need to take a closer look.

Since you like the word respect: when you put words into the mouth of people, have the respect to quote them. Where did I write that they had nothing to contribute to the world ? I actually wrote that I admire their way of life.

if you dont have any respect for what they were than have some empathy for what they are now and some respect for what they are becoming.

as above, quote. The only person lacking respect here is you.
 
What about the room full of gold the incans payed as a ransom to the spanish?

I dunno if it'd count as a wonder though.... cos having a huge amount of gold is already covered in the game's mechanics.
 
sorry got on a tangent.If you look at stonehendge,the pyramides of egypt,the hanging gardens, do we not look at those of symbols of a great power,do we not look at these and still scratch our heads trying to figire out how they did it.Now look at the nazca lines,cliff dwellings of the american SW,the temples of mezoamerica,the serpant mound in the ohio valley, can you tell me how they did it ?can you tell me this didnt mean a great deal to the people who built it or the decendants of these people?I ask again have some respect, dont cast away these things that people hold onto as a symbole of a greater excistance and as a pride in their heritage when the world has dismissed them as heathens and primitive.
 
Pablo...
with native american tribes we usually define north american indian tribes. So we're not talking of Icans, Maya, Atzecs etc.
Nazca lines are huge geoglyphs. Wether or not they could be considered a wonder I don't want to discuss... I guess it's too subjective. Anyways they are in south america. The Anasazi dwellings I am not sure how and why would you consider them a wonder ?? Anasazi are also not north american indians and not nomads.
The Serpent Mound could very well be listed under wonders though. But it wasn't built by nomadic tribes, again ;) I don't know how much it meant to the descendants of the people who built it, since we know very little about it. Probably for this reason it wasn't considered among wonders.

PS: are you going to stop accusing me of disrespect and dismissing of native american cultures already ? Thank you.
 
Could you please STOP saying comments about the Native Ameriacan and like people if you relly want to debate stuff like this you should start a new thread abought it ALL I was asking for were some wonder/building ideas not a debate. Oh yah I think that the only reson we have a lack of info is because the usa distoryed their hisory culture and way of life by doning a genicide comparabal to that of The concentracion camps in fact the usa did it on a even BIGGER scale.
 
atutually (sorry for my spelling) if you think that nomad should not be in the game what abought The mongols???arn't they nomadic???And when you say that a ceritn group of people do not deserve to be in this game you are like before deniying them their history.Oh yah chef pablo was right you are telling A Sioux person what to belive and not to abought our own history, that's dumb :nono: . Let me put it this way let's say that a group of froign invaders came on your land and killed off tons of your friends and family, enslaved them, forced them to covert, distorying you culture and finlay put on worthless pieces of land makeing you feel worthless thus resorting to drugs well would you like that???Well that is prity much what happend to us.In fact I want you to read Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee writein by Dee Brown it is a book on abught the Natives side of the story of the wild west. It is verrry depresing :cry: :cry: :cry: book it made me cry :cry: :cry: aslo each time I read it I start to cry in fact I am crying :cry: :cry: :cry: aboght it when I typeing it right now.Plese people stop bringing up this stuff it makes me very sad.
 
atutually (sorry for my spelling) if you think that nomad should not be in the game what abought The mongols???arn't they nomadic???And when you say that a ceritn group of people do not deserve to be in this game you are like before deniying them their history.Oh yah chef pablo was right you are telling A Sioux person what to belive and not to abought our own history, that's dumb :nono: . Let me put it this way let's say that a group of froign invaders came on your land and killed off tons of your friends and family, enslaved them, forced them to covert, distorying you culture and finlay put on worthless pieces of land makeing you feel worthless thus resorting to drugs well would you like that???Well that is prity much what happend to us.In fact I want you to read Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee writein by Dee Brown it is a book on abught the Natives side of the story of the wild west. It is verrry depresing :cry: :cry: :cry: book it made me cry :cry: :cry: aslo each time I read it I start to cry in fact I am crying :cry: :cry: :cry: aboght it when I typeing it right now.Plese people stop bringing up this stuff it makes me very sad.
 
sorry i did not know i posted it twice sorry
 
Don't waste your time on the flamewars and just add those wonders, they're all as good as any other. There's no real criteria at what's a wonder and what's not. Leonardo's "Workshop"? Cure for cancer? If those work, why can't Nazca lines or anything else?
Just add them to the game, for every person willing to flame over historical and sociological 'what if', there's ten people that will appreciate a well made mod.

For the record, i always wanted to see the Moai statues as a wonder and i'd love Nazca wonder too.

SlavicSiouxs, i understand how emotional you are over the subject and i'd share most of your opinions. Still, there's nothing to be gained by getting emotional in the forums. Internet forums have no appreciation for emotions and you will find much more controversive opinions in this very place, about all kinds of nations, people and such.
 
You are right I honstly think that this solud thred sould not be debate and should be one why I can ideas for wonder and buliding ideas.I f people are going to continue to debate(that iculdes me Ithink eater 1 a moderator is going to shup this therad down or people will become lose interist in it thus not giveing any ideas)
 
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Annnnnwwayyys.... Slavic Sioux... what did you think about my suggestion for the incan gold? It'd be a bit weird to have the actual ransom as the wonder... but the source of the gold could be a wonder. The ransom was supposed to be two large rooms filled to the roof with gold and silver.

The incans had a HUGE silver mine at Potosí, Bolivia. Definately worthy of wonder status. Literally a whole mountain made of silver ore, which the incans mined like crazy (its all gone now). I'm not sure if they had any large gold mines, or if they just had lots of small mines, but the Potosí silver mine would have been incredibly impressive at its peak productivity.

Easily enough to be worthy, and its pretty obvious what a huge silver mine would do. It could be the cash eqivalent of the great library, with merchants instead of scientists.(But obviously needing hill tiles near the city).
 
That whole big mountain would have been covered in incan mines, full of slave workers. Because of that, it was the second largest city in the Americas at one stage, before the mines dried up.

An entire mountain of bling impresses me a lot more than mt rushmore.
 

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