Drekken
l33t Civer
I thought the issue was that the white couple was refused a black child because they are white and not the other way around.
Exactly, now why can't the Liberals realize that?
Its okay to be racist against whites
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VoodooAce
Emperor
Interracial adoption? What does that hve to do with anything? Right out of left field, SunTzu. 
I had forgotten what got the thread started in the first place. For the most part, I'm sure you're right though, SunTzu.
Racism is a human problem that, if it's going to go away, I'm not seeing a whole lot of evidence. I think the USA is, once again, a good, if not shining example of quite different peoples living together in relative harmony. Relative being the key word.
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Thanks for getting it back on-topic SunTzu.
I had forgotten what got the thread started in the first place. For the most part, I'm sure you're right though, SunTzu.
Racism is a human problem that, if it's going to go away, I'm not seeing a whole lot of evidence. I think the USA is, once again, a good, if not shining example of quite different peoples living together in relative harmony. Relative being the key word.
Moderator Action: Most of post edited. Stay on topic. This is NOT about politics unless you can directly tie it with interacial adoptions and racism. I don't feel you did.
This goes for everyone
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
Thanks for getting it back on-topic SunTzu.
Caligastia
Space Cadet
Thanks mister moderator, this thread was geting waaaay off topic!
This story reminds me of a black college professor I knew, who would argue to his dying breath that blacks CANNOT BE prejudiced, because they are black. His argument was something to the effect that whites are prejudiced against blacks, therefore blacks cannot be prejudiced.
(I believe he was fired shortly after espousing this idea in his classroom.)
Even closer to the topic, I currently work with a young black lady who grew up poor in Louisiana. She had a baby at 14, lived in a world of guns, drugs, and alcohol, and still managed to complete high school. She earned a college degree. She found a job, and is now a well-paid, competent programmer. But when she arrived in Omaha, she chose to NOT live up in the 'ghetto', but instead bought a nice house near the AF base. Now, many of her acquaintances consider her, to one degree or another, to be a 'traitor' to her race, for living in a 'white' neighborhood. (I think there are two 'white' families on her block. The rest are black/asian/hispanic/whatever. 30% of her son's school is black.) Her response is she is trying to provide a better life for herself and her son. That means buying a $100,000 house if she can afford it (she can) instead of a $20,000 rundown shack. It means NOT living where drive-by shootings are part of the daily routine. Mostly, it means living somewhere her son can have the advanatges she didn't have growing up. (Not that it is helping. He has already bought into the 'world owes me' crap. Failing grades, run-ins with the law, etc. She has tearfully confided in me that when he turns 18 next year, she may just have to kick him out of the house.)
What does this have to do with a white couple adopting a black baby? Simple. Why should black 'culture' be more important than a loving family? My friend's sisters and friends in LA are still there, pumping out babies, cashing welfare checks, getting drunk, etc. while she had to 'break' from her culture to get a life. She is proudly black, but doesn't think you have to buy into the 'victim of the whites' mentality that is so prevalent. Sure, a black baby raised by whites may turn bad, but so do some black babies raised by blacks! Reverse racism is still racism!
As an earlier poster said, we are all Americans. Stuff this 'hyphen-american' nonsense. We are Americans, and race shouldn't matter!
Gosh, what a ramble!
I wonder if I shed more heat or light?:crazyeyes :crazyeyes
(I believe he was fired shortly after espousing this idea in his classroom.)
Even closer to the topic, I currently work with a young black lady who grew up poor in Louisiana. She had a baby at 14, lived in a world of guns, drugs, and alcohol, and still managed to complete high school. She earned a college degree. She found a job, and is now a well-paid, competent programmer. But when she arrived in Omaha, she chose to NOT live up in the 'ghetto', but instead bought a nice house near the AF base. Now, many of her acquaintances consider her, to one degree or another, to be a 'traitor' to her race, for living in a 'white' neighborhood. (I think there are two 'white' families on her block. The rest are black/asian/hispanic/whatever. 30% of her son's school is black.) Her response is she is trying to provide a better life for herself and her son. That means buying a $100,000 house if she can afford it (she can) instead of a $20,000 rundown shack. It means NOT living where drive-by shootings are part of the daily routine. Mostly, it means living somewhere her son can have the advanatges she didn't have growing up. (Not that it is helping. He has already bought into the 'world owes me' crap. Failing grades, run-ins with the law, etc. She has tearfully confided in me that when he turns 18 next year, she may just have to kick him out of the house.)
What does this have to do with a white couple adopting a black baby? Simple. Why should black 'culture' be more important than a loving family? My friend's sisters and friends in LA are still there, pumping out babies, cashing welfare checks, getting drunk, etc. while she had to 'break' from her culture to get a life. She is proudly black, but doesn't think you have to buy into the 'victim of the whites' mentality that is so prevalent. Sure, a black baby raised by whites may turn bad, but so do some black babies raised by blacks! Reverse racism is still racism!
As an earlier poster said, we are all Americans. Stuff this 'hyphen-american' nonsense. We are Americans, and race shouldn't matter!
Gosh, what a ramble!
I wonder if I shed more heat or light?:crazyeyes :crazyeyes
Caligastia
Space Cadet
I appreciate your contribution padma
K
Knowltok 2
Guest
Good post padma. By any chance was the last a Rush reference?
I don't think its racism that a white or black couple wouldn't want a baby of the opposite race. For whatever reason that couple can't have a baby of their own, they would want a baby of the same race to make it more like their own.
Some people are racists about it. But i think the majority aren't racist about it.
Every couple wants a child of their own race, no racism with it.
Some people are racists about it. But i think the majority aren't racist about it.
Every couple wants a child of their own race, no racism with it.
Scrimshaw
Out there...lurking
I think you're a bit backwards there suntzu. The issue is that a white couple DID WANT a black baby and tried to adopt him but they were refused by the adoption agency. They wanted a child of a different race to make their own. The racism was on the part of the agency not the parents.
My opinion on this matter is that the parents should have been allowed to adopt the child and if it were me I would have taken that case to court. That's not a valid reason to reject somebody trying to adopt a child in my book.
If I were the agency and I was a racist, I would have at least found an excuse to keep them from adopting. Unless you come from some backwoods state that's only a good way to get yourself in trouble. I hope that adoption worker loses his job for that one.
My opinion on this matter is that the parents should have been allowed to adopt the child and if it were me I would have taken that case to court. That's not a valid reason to reject somebody trying to adopt a child in my book.
If I were the agency and I was a racist, I would have at least found an excuse to keep them from adopting. Unless you come from some backwoods state that's only a good way to get yourself in trouble. I hope that adoption worker loses his job for that one.
