JB2 - Neo-Fascists (C3C Deity)
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Kuningas
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The Save
1890AD
CFC were down yesterday. Anyway here is turn log.
IT New Ohrid burned to in the ground.
1892AD
Kaminaljuyu captured. Another size 30 metropolis.
Bonampak abandoned. New city replaces it.
IT New Trebizond flipped to Greece.
1894AD
Calakmul captured. and replaced.
Chichen Itza captured. We gain control of the Internet and the Pyramid.
Kaminajuyu replaced.
C3C fatal error, I have to play turn again
1896AD
Coba captured and replaced with new city.
Lagartero captured, popul 30 metropolis.
IT UN voting skipped
1898AD
Copan and Smiths Trading Co captured.
Quiriqu'a captured and replaced with new city.
IT Mayans razed one and captured city.
1900AD
Tikal size 32 metropolis captured.
Tikal abandoned and replaced.
Mayans have not Aluminum sources anymore.
No sign of Apollo programs.
I kept Chichen Itza and Copan. Those have some nice wonders.
World area 60%
World population 54%
1890AD
CFC were down yesterday. Anyway here is turn log.
IT New Ohrid burned to in the ground.
1892AD
Kaminaljuyu captured. Another size 30 metropolis.
Bonampak abandoned. New city replaces it.
IT New Trebizond flipped to Greece.
1894AD
Calakmul captured. and replaced.
Chichen Itza captured. We gain control of the Internet and the Pyramid.
Kaminajuyu replaced.
C3C fatal error, I have to play turn again
1896AD
Coba captured and replaced with new city.
Lagartero captured, popul 30 metropolis.
IT UN voting skipped
1898AD
Copan and Smiths Trading Co captured.
Quiriqu'a captured and replaced with new city.
IT Mayans razed one and captured city.
1900AD
Tikal size 32 metropolis captured.
Tikal abandoned and replaced.
Mayans have not Aluminum sources anymore.
No sign of Apollo programs.
I kept Chichen Itza and Copan. Those have some nice wonders.
World area 60%
World population 54%
JustBen
Prince
Wow. I can't believe you rolled Chichen Itza and Copan on your turns. That's fantastic. Watch for flips; we won't be able to starve them down before the game ends.
The biggest city in the world right now is the new Mayan capital of Lagash, at 34. The second biggest city has 18 population. If we raze Lagash, we ought to see our population ranking jump noticeably.
Note also that at this point the Greeks have a (very slightly) larger army than the Mayans, so it will probably be easier to grab our last cities from the Blue Team than the Green Team.
We have enough for another careful steal if someone really, really wants to nuke something. No other tech could possibly give us anything we could use fast enough. Can MGLs still rush nukes? If we hit 66% land before 66% people, this may be the most economical way to pare down the total population of our enemies.
Otherwise just start recklessly rushing settlers & tanks in our corrupt mainland towns. Drafting is probably counterproductive at this point, with the Domination goal in sight.
Roster:
Ben
Kuningas
TedJackson (up now!)
Greebley (on deck)
The biggest city in the world right now is the new Mayan capital of Lagash, at 34. The second biggest city has 18 population. If we raze Lagash, we ought to see our population ranking jump noticeably.
Note also that at this point the Greeks have a (very slightly) larger army than the Mayans, so it will probably be easier to grab our last cities from the Blue Team than the Green Team.
We have enough for another careful steal if someone really, really wants to nuke something. No other tech could possibly give us anything we could use fast enough. Can MGLs still rush nukes? If we hit 66% land before 66% people, this may be the most economical way to pare down the total population of our enemies.
Otherwise just start recklessly rushing settlers & tanks in our corrupt mainland towns. Drafting is probably counterproductive at this point, with the Domination goal in sight.
Roster:
Ben
Kuningas
TedJackson (up now!)
Greebley (on deck)
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Great progress Kuningas 
Got it, I'll try to play tomorrow.
Ted
Got it, I'll try to play tomorrow.
Ted
Nice fighting Kuningas 
I am thinking Ted will be able to finish this up. Feel free to take an extra turn or two if you are very close Ted.
MMing towns for food might help as well though that may not be necessary.
I am thinking Ted will be able to finish this up. Feel free to take an extra turn or two if you are very close Ted.
MMing towns for food might help as well though that may not be necessary.
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
I'm halfway through turn 5 and we are at 65% land & 63% pop 
If I can capture one more town this turn (& hold it) and add some Workers in to size 6 & below towns I think we're there.
I'll finish off in the morning.
Ted
If I can capture one more town this turn (& hold it) and add some Workers in to size 6 & below towns I think we're there.
I'll finish off in the morning.
Ted
I thought you would able to finish this up Post the save right before we win. As it was modded it won't make the high score list, but I would have fun with the replay to watch how the game went. I think this was my most difficult game to date.
Post the save right before we win. As it was modded it won't make the high score list, but I would have fun with the replay to watch how the game went. I think this was my most difficult game to date.
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
JB2-1900AD
Pre-flight checks... OK
Capture 2 Mayan Workers
The Rubber WSW of Ibabanago is Maya's last. Need to cut this off ASAP
Run through the production list hurrying a couple of Settlers and tweaking a couple of builds
Press button...
Minor skirmishes
1 - 1902AD
Chalcedon 2 founded - stepping stone to Lazapa
Cut off Rubber
Bombard & Bomb Yaxchilan
Raze Yaxchilan for no losses
Sardica 2 founded (WNW ruins of Yaxchilan)
Destroy RT protecting Lazapa
Move Artillery into range for bombarding Lazapa next turn
Hurry a couple of Settlers
IBT
Repuls Mayan attack on
Mayan stack near
Argos (Greece) completes Longevity
2 - 1904AD
Naissus 2 founded on ruins of Yaxchilan
Raze Lazapa for no losses (16 workers captured)
Dyrrachium 2 founded
Septum 2 founded
Nicomedia 2 founded
Land 63%, Pop 58% - I'll try to get that last 3% of tiles then start joining Workers back into the smaller towns.
IBT
Game hangs - reload
Minor skirmishes
3 - 1906AD
Amorium 2 founded
Kill some Mayan MI & MA
Bombard improvements
IBT
Minor skirmishes
4 - 1908AD
Kill a few Mayan units
Armies advance on Xcalumkin & Uxmal
Hurry a couple of Settlers
IBT
Minor skirmishes
Tlaxcala flips to Maya
5 - 1910AD
Recapture Tlaxcala for no losses
Capture Cuello for no losses
Ancyra 2 founded
Brusa 2 founded
Capture Xcalumkin for no losses
Capture Uaxactun for the loss of 2 MA
Iconium 2 founded
Land 66%, Pop 65%
Join Workers to size 6 (or less) towns where possible
Hurry MA/MI builds on mainland and ferry MI reinforcements to Ohrid
IBT
Greeks want to trade TM - I sell TM for WM + 7gp
Teotihuacan riots
- scroll ahead and find 3 more towns about to riot
Domination Win in 134 hours, 34 minutes and 41 seconds [dance]
Score: 4173
The save is > here <
Ted
Pre-flight checks... OK
Capture 2 Mayan Workers
The Rubber WSW of Ibabanago is Maya's last. Need to cut this off ASAP
Run through the production list hurrying a couple of Settlers and tweaking a couple of builds
Press button...
Minor skirmishes
1 - 1902AD
Chalcedon 2 founded - stepping stone to Lazapa
Cut off Rubber
Bombard & Bomb Yaxchilan
Raze Yaxchilan for no losses
Sardica 2 founded (WNW ruins of Yaxchilan)
Destroy RT protecting Lazapa
Move Artillery into range for bombarding Lazapa next turn
Hurry a couple of Settlers
IBT
Repuls Mayan attack on
Mayan stack near
Argos (Greece) completes Longevity
2 - 1904AD
Naissus 2 founded on ruins of Yaxchilan
Raze Lazapa for no losses
(16 workers captured)Dyrrachium 2 founded
Septum 2 founded
Nicomedia 2 founded
Land 63%, Pop 58% - I'll try to get that last 3% of tiles then start joining Workers back into the smaller towns.
IBT
Game hangs - reload
Minor skirmishes
3 - 1906AD
Amorium 2 founded
Kill some Mayan MI & MA
Bombard improvements
IBT
Minor skirmishes
4 - 1908AD
Kill a few Mayan units
Armies advance on Xcalumkin & Uxmal
Hurry a couple of Settlers
IBT
Minor skirmishes
Tlaxcala flips to Maya
5 - 1910AD
Recapture Tlaxcala for no losses
Capture Cuello for no losses
Ancyra 2 founded
Brusa 2 founded
Capture Xcalumkin for no losses
Capture Uaxactun for the loss of 2 MA
Iconium 2 founded
Land 66%, Pop 65%
Join Workers to size 6 (or less) towns where possible
Hurry MA/MI builds on mainland and ferry MI reinforcements to Ohrid
IBT
Greeks want to trade TM - I sell TM for WM + 7gp
Teotihuacan riots
- scroll ahead and find 3 more towns about to riotDomination Win in 134 hours, 34 minutes and 41 seconds [dance]
Score: 4173
The save is > here <
Ted
JustBen
Prince
[dance] ![[party]](/images/smilies/partytime.gif "Party [party]")
[dance] Bwa-ha-ha! Hooray! That was a long four months. I never thought we stood a chance from the moment we made contact with an enemy civ.
I tried to make a Deity game that kept being tough into the modern age. Well, that is what we got.
I also want to thank Mad-Bax and Improviser for playing with us for as long as they could.
for playing and doubly so for winning!Now, to finally patch to v1.22...
YaY! We win. 134 hours makes my longest game as well. All that modern warfare.
Ben, I think your mod succeeded in making the modern age tough; they never slowed down in tech.
The game definitely showed the benefit of keeping a balance between two AI's and keeping them at war. We were lucky to have this occur in the early part of the game before we could affect the outcome, but were able to make a real difference when it appeared that Greece would be able to over-run the Maya. I am guessing it was the constant war between two nearly balanced factions that supressed the spaceship for so long as well as stopping the culture win.
Comparing with JB3, it appears very important in Conquests to not allow a single AI to run away with the game - the AI now fights better and seems much more capable of taking advantage of a lead.
Anyway, congrats to all and thanks for a fun game
134 hours makes my longest game as well. All that modern warfare.Ben, I think your mod succeeded in making the modern age tough; they never slowed down in tech.
The game definitely showed the benefit of keeping a balance between two AI's and keeping them at war. We were lucky to have this occur in the early part of the game before we could affect the outcome, but were able to make a real difference when it appeared that Greece would be able to over-run the Maya. I am guessing it was the constant war between two nearly balanced factions that supressed the spaceship for so long as well as stopping the culture win.
Comparing with JB3, it appears very important in Conquests to not allow a single AI to run away with the game - the AI now fights better and seems much more capable of taking advantage of a lead.
Anyway, congrats to all and thanks for a fun game
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Interesting game,
I thought we'd lost early on, when we realised we were alone on an island with no coastal (or sea) access to the other landmass(es).
Yet this isolation worked for us in the later game as the AI still seems incapable of mounting a seabourne invasion. Whereas we made fairly light work of establishing a foothold then expanding on their continent.
I found it strange that Greece never got started on their Spaceship. They weren't at war for the last 20 or so turns but still made no progress toward a launch.
We had a slight Production advantage over Maya in the latter stages but my cutting of the Rubber allowed them to switch back to building ToW and I came close to losing Ohrid simply because of the number of Tow they threw at the town
My thanks to JB for setting up an interesting game and to all the players for keeping it interesting
Ted
I thought we'd lost early on, when we realised we were alone on an island with no coastal (or sea) access to the other landmass(es).
Yet this isolation worked for us in the later game as the AI still seems incapable of mounting a seabourne invasion. Whereas we made fairly light work of establishing a foothold then expanding on their continent.
I found it strange that Greece never got started on their Spaceship. They weren't at war for the last 20 or so turns but still made no progress toward a launch.
We had a slight Production advantage over Maya in the latter stages but my cutting of the Rubber allowed them to switch back to building ToW and I came close to losing Ohrid simply because of the number of Tow they threw at the town
My thanks to JB for setting up an interesting game and to all the players for keeping it interesting
Ted
My only guess on the spaceship is that we had hurt them badly and they only had 2nd rate cities left. They may have started apollo in a lesser city and thus not completed it in the 20 turns?
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
You saved me the trouble of looking for it
Cheers.
Ted
Cheers.
Ted
Thanks for finding it Kuningas,
It looks like my guess was right. It would have been really weird if they weren't building it at all.
It looks like my guess was right. It would have been really weird if they weren't building it at all.
