Jotnar adepts & disciples

[DirtyFinger]

Just playing a Jotnar game on deity.

I took the exploration path and have no problems at all with Troll Hunters scourging the barbarian population. I only managed to build two settlers but the barbarian cities were placed conveniently near me so I now own 8 cities by turn 138, am leading in tech, got about 6 Troll Hunters and 6 Hill Giants and lots of thralls. Made contact with all civilizations (troll hunters are awesome for scouting) and am ranked second behind the Sidar.

But:

* I researched Way of the Earthmother, built a Temple but can't produce Thanes of Kilmorph.
* I researched Arcane Knowledge, built a Mage Tower but don't get Adepts.

I haven't found a good race description anywhere so I'm not sure what I'm missing.
Any Idea?

 

[odalrick]

Jotnar have neither. You are also forbidden most, maybe all, religious heroes.

The also don't have priests or mages, but citizens can upgrade to their replacements. Religion spread is done by Mouth of the Divine, but they are not consumed by it like disciples.

 

[Valkrionn]

Jotnar in FF have mages, and Mouth of the Divines. No adepts/disciples.

In FFPlus, they have Adepts, and a full religious line starting with Cyklops at Education, rather than Mouths at Priesthood.

Edit: Also, FF they can build most religious Heroes. FFPlus, they can't, but are quite a bit stronger in compensation.