Just got spore

EA was better as an underground company than a multi-million dollar company. Then they will make crap like Lotus Challenge IV or some BS like that.
 
I'm more of a RPG Games Moderator Action: *snip* url removed. kinda guy, but I was all over spore when it came out! It can be a bit dull, I will agree... But the expansion does make things a bit more fun. It's one of those games that I pick up every now and again.
 
Ondskan said:
yeah exacly as I said in the other thread. The Beta was better than the finished product.

Pitty that no magazine seemed to dare interview the developers on WTH happend.
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WTH happened? Someone resigned that's what.

I feel they basically got cold feet about the popular reaction to evolution, and that the "stages games" might be too complicated for anyone to enjoy the whole thing together.

Basically they wanted to make it more like the Sims---casual, creative, lots of DLC to buy. So they stripped it. They got the creative aspect right, but it was probably too casual for typical PC gamers.

Also Galactic Adventures added a lot more "creative", but not much 'game'. Plus the adventures didn't really fix anything with the other stages. I think they figured that putting adventures into the Space stage would make the game totally about Space stage, and somehow save it.

I totally recommend Spore + GA if you're happy just creating stuff in the editors and then telling stories in GA, but the overall game is way too casual for anyone over 12, imho. As a creativity toy, it's fun. As a game, it's fun for about 10 to 40 hours in a console-game sort of way.
 
Agree^^ My first game was great, to start with. I roleplayed it, I made a really nice specie. It was beautiful. I went exploring my continent in the creature stage and tribal stage, enjoying the immersive graphics. Saw a UFO, saw a great Epic creature, found some ancient ruins. It started to go a bit wrong in the civ stage, when I got auto-saved in a near unrecoverable situation, then got totally put off by the space stage and the realisation that trying to build up my empire/abilities was going to be incredibly repetitive.

Tried another game with a flying/gliding creature, with a different planet. That was fun too, but I couldn't be bothered progressing through the civ stage.

Tried a few more games, realised there was really nothing more to see. About 15 hours of gameplay before I lost interest.

Never came back to it after that, except to randomly create some vehicles and things I'd never actually use in-game.
 
Ha I tried to make a thread about underrated games today, and it got moved to the 'all other games' subforum to die. I followed it and found this subforum, which is ironic given my OP in that dead thread. I'll put it here:

I really enjoyed Spore. I got back into this week because about all the energy I had only allowed me to move a mouse around and it was a good distraction from the fever and accompanying pain.


The game was a bit of a letdown in that the Cell stage really could have been more involving and fun, and the lack of avian and sea-based life in the later stages was dumb. Plus, the space stage could get a bit monotnous (why didn't they add more mission and disaster types beyond pirate raids, grox attacks and ecodisasters?)

But all in all, the game is thoroughly engrossing. I found myself scheming for hours on how best to rush to the center of the galaxy. I hit on a new strategy where instead of rushing through systems, I methodically plotted my way there system by system. I eliminated all grox opposition in my way and used the planet buster quite liberally while doing so. Ahh, the satisfaction of frakking a planet can't be overstated.

Even now that I have the staff of life (42 uses? OK, I get the reference, but come on, I have a galaxy to mold in my image and 42 doesn't cut it) and decent empire, I'm still exploring to find all of the wonders of the universe.

I really want to find Sol with humans on it, then blow it up, muhahahaha.

I want all the badges and I want to buy out all of the competing empires one planet at a time. I want to take over the entire galaxy. The game is just so big and engaging, despite its flaws.



My question to you guys is, what were the features and stuff that were supposed to be in the game but got left out?
 
Yeah but I don't know what those things are. I saw the video (can't hear it) and the only thing I saw different was that the creature stage started underwater (which I really wish had stayed in the game).
 
There are plenty of other things. The game actually simulated a food chain and had a wholly different engine for how your body parts moved - it mattered in regards to speed and stability how your legs were shaped and positioned. It wasn't just dull +1 intelligence modifiers either - it mattered where body parts existed. It was a whole other engine that was dropped for the current one.

There are a few posts on the Spore forum with comments from Will Wright and another developer of the game. Apparently, there were two developer camps - creativity vs science - cute vs realism - and over time, the creative cutey camp won and gave the game the cartoony graphics while removing the intricate evolutionary details and the smooth evolution system in place back then.
 
lord_joakim said:
There are plenty of other things. The game actually simulated a food chain and had a wholly different engine for how your body parts moved - it mattered in regards to speed and stability how your legs were shaped and positioned. It wasn't just dull +1 intelligence modifiers either - it mattered where body parts existed. It was a whole other engine that was dropped for the current one.

There are a few posts on the Spore forum with comments from Will Wright and another developer of the game. Apparently, there were two developer camps - creativity vs science - cute vs realism - and over time, the creative cutey camp won and gave the game the cartoony graphics while removing the intricate evolutionary details and the smooth evolution system in place back then.
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Oh geeze that blows. I never had the experience of complete and utter dissapointment that other people had. However, after about the 3rd game or so I just stopped playing and didn't touch it again for 4 years. Just started it back up again last week, and already I'm sick of the monotony.
 
The game sadly went that way, yeah. That's not to say you shouldn't enjoy the game (Your last post seemed pretty optimistic about it, this one, less so) it's just not for me and I feel that they cheated me by hyping an engine they never released.

This is also the reason it took so long to get released btw. Big project, big mistake, to many people.
 
Dude some of the big systems in big corporations have thousands of people working on the project.
That's not the reason I think. MIght have contributed tho
 
Well, you can choose to read the statements of the developers on the subject that support my view, statements that are public apologies to the customers. You can be conspiratory about it, but this practically boiled down to a bad decision.

Of course, the cutesy camp was probably supported by the shareholders ("people won't get that complex stuff!") so that might have something to do with the winning side.

But they agreed on it and developed the trainwreck we have today.
 
lord_joakim said:
The game sadly went that way, yeah. That's not to say you shouldn't enjoy the game (Your last post seemed pretty optimistic about it, this one, less so) it's just not for me and I feel that they cheated me by hyping an engine they never released.

This is also the reason it took so long to get released btw. Big project, big mistake, to many people.
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I missed most of the hype, I didn't hear about it until a few months before release. So I wasn't super deflated by broken promises. I remember being totally wrapped up in it for a month or so before I realized how simplisitic and repetitive it was. Though it is both of these things, the scale of the game and the galaxy at the end kept me engaged.

As for the tone of my last post, well that's the rub with this game. When I've been away from it for 4 years, it seems fresh and new and fun. Then I burn out on in it in an instant. I'm pretty much there now.

I hope there will be a legit Spore 2 though. I'd buy it.
 
I really doubt there will be a Spore 2. It's been 3 years since the last update.
 
That's too bad. Although flawed, it was a solid platform to build another great game off of.
 
It was a great idea with so much potential, it just could've been done so much better. More features and complexity (a friend of mine saw it and thought it was a kids game. Maybe it is?) and less DRM and they'd be onto a winner.
 
Yeah, they even left out simple things like letting your create creatures that can climb. It's sad how simplistic it is, yet it came from a premise that could have been uber complicated. They went too far in their quest to make it easy to use or whatever the hell they were doing.
 
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