Cool, Derpy. Maybe I should go up. I just remember the one time I tried it, I got licked so bad in the race to the GL that I crawled back to Emperor with my tail between my legs. Nevyn, you don't have to have marble and stone, but boy does it help. Speaking of which! Last night I came THIS close. I got every Greek wonder except the Temple of Artemis. I had a sweet start that had stone and marble by my capital, but then more stone and marble just to the south. I went liberty first, grabbed the 2nd marble city site and set it working on the Mausoleum right away. I actually took 8 turns of zero growth in my capital to pump out another settler, grabbed a 3rd city nearby with another stone that was good enough overall to build Zues. Meanwhile, my uber-capital with two stone, one marble, and a mined hill was enough to build the Colossus, Great Library, Great Lighthouse and the Oracle. Very sweet game...I think I'll go continue it now.