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King Younk's Questions thread

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by King Younk, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. King Younk

    King Younk Warlord

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    2 Triremes, ok.

    How many cities do I need to take from Napoleon, Mansa, and Gilgamesh to vassalize them? I’m thinking a Medieval rush with the Masa/Nappy tension to triangulate would do well.
     
  2. King Younk

    King Younk Warlord

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    France (by conquest) and Sumeria (by consent) are under my thumb as vassals and now I only need Sumeria. There's a foreign country idgaf about abroad, but I need the continent under my belt safely before serious (peaceful) statecraft, and to keep the Mali without excessive blodshed.

    How do?
     
  3. King Younk

    King Younk Warlord

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    Any thoughts on how I should take the continent/conquer Sumeria? Should I go for Space Race after that? Stop producing military except in my Heroic Epic city, and just upgrade my units/upgrade my economy with research?
     
  4. King Younk

    King Younk Warlord

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    Should you ever build more than 1 academy? I don't remember.
     
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    No. Academy is good in combination with bureaucracy, otherwise bulbs or golden ages win, in general.
     
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  6. King Younk

    King Younk Warlord

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    Well, I am now master of the Western hemisphere. I think I will go for a space race, since I'm none too popular in the East, a cultural victory is not a position I'm in to likely win, and a massive investment in an invasion of the Eastern hemisphere seems like a risky waste.

    Any thoughts on how I should proceed? I know not to make demands of my vassals, who are all pretty powerful at this point.

    I'm wondering what buildings I should prioritize - probably science, commerce, and production. I've also scouted out a spot for the Three Gorges Dam in Guimares.

    How much should I spend on military? I was thinking of just upgrading what I have, beelining the Three Gorges, and consequently acquiring Assembly Line/Infantry in due course.

    Finally, what should I do with my land on the Northeast part of the continent, which I took from Mali/France/Sumeria? Any other thoughts?

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  7. King Younk

    King Younk Warlord

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    Here's the save. My internet is terrible, so I had to do it like this.
     

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  8. Fish Man

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    Give us the t0 save.
     
  9. King Younk

    King Younk Warlord

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    It was overwritten by another game.

    I think I’ve improved, no?
     
  10. pi-r8

    pi-r8 Luddite

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    Having vassals doesn't really help much. It's better to conquer them completely if you can. Especially in your case, it looks like two of your vassals are actually more advanced than you! might be better to make some demands and home they break free, then you'll have an excuse to go to war and take all their cities. Don't try to do anything fancy, just take more and more cities and fill them all up with cottages. (if that seems tedious, well, that's why most people don't play huge maps)
     
  11. Fish Man

    Fish Man Emperor

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    Next time you want advice on a game, have the t0 and current saves ready.
     
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  12. King Younk

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    I was just looking to pacify the continent so I could peacefully build Spaceship stuff and have a bulwark against a German/Mongolian invasion.

    I’m gonna pass on breaking up the continent for now - any tips on pursuing space race going forward?
     
  13. pi-r8

    pi-r8 Luddite

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    If someone else is teching faster you can try to provoke them into going to war with someone else. But here that might be your own vassal, Mansa Musa :lol:
    mostly though, it just depends on getting more/better cities than anyone else, which is why the early turns are so important.
     
  14. Gumbolt

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    All those troops just sitting there. Your unit cost per turn is over 50. Looks like you turned down some pretty good land here. The corn/pigs copper should of been settled much sooner. Same for the city north of your capital. (Albeit no food.) Flood plains can be good with cottages.

    1700ad seems late for where you are techwise.

    Why didn't you try to take down one AI?
     
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  15. FlyinJohnnyL

    FlyinJohnnyL You need more workers....

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    Same advice you've been given before. You either build troops and take land, or you need to rely on diplomacy to keep you OUT of wars. You're playing Emperor right? You can't really try to out-power the AI to keep yourself safe like you can on the lower difficulties, for the reason Gumbolt mentioned. Troop maintenance is too high. You either build the army to take land, or you keep a small army and rely on diplomacy to save your ass. It's really that simple.
     
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    I wanted pax Portuga asap.

    Will delete the most obsolete and press ahead with space race soon.

    How large an army do you think I need to defend against Bismarck or KK raiding me? 40 units?
     
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    Most of your diplomacy issues are for trading with worst enemies. Otherwise most AI might be cautious. Ideally you want some friendly AI. Albeit vassals confuse the tide when it comes to DOW. I don't see any big German stacks. He would need a fleet of ships. Even then you have Mansa who has infantry. Holding onto 13 catapults, warriors and others seems a waste as you have no intention to use them. If you see a fleet set sail then build some defences. Few frigates to wipe out any fleet?

    You should likely tell your vassals what to tech so you can at least try to tech something they don't have. Your way behind on science here which seems to happen in most of your games. If you wanted space you need to plan for sushi or state property. So much land you could of taken here.Then you wouldn't have to worry about invading Ai fleets

    You may do space here but your not making life easy for yourself..
     
  18. King Younk

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    Hello again,

    I just took a two-civ island as Bismarck (conquered Hatshepsut), and I already have GW and mids. What should be my plan from here in terms of priorities?

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  19. earthy

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    grow big and then kill people.
     
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  20. Gumbolt

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    So you built mids and your not running the rep civic? That would solve most of your happiness issues here. Capital should of been grown instead of running mines.
    As you have suggested you have cities to settle here. Including sheep/fish. Plus the fish/crabs and cow which is a great city.
    Early IW was a mistake here. Apart from the jungle gems it could of waited. Better to grab alphabet instead.
    You really need to scout more here. I suspect you could meet 3-4 more AI here quite easily.

    Plan going forward.
    You need more libraries. Far too few for 200bc or so. You need COL or libraries to run scientists.
    Your short on workers.
    You have built up 883 gold. Should of been put on science.
    You need sailing for foreign trade routes. You can clearly reach Hammy. Workboats to explore? Danger now is barb galleys. Also for silver you need trade routes via the coast. This also helps religions spread.

    Berlin - Why are the fish and crabs not improved? Were they pillaged? You have built 4-5 grassland cottages. Albeit you have not built a cottage on the grassland river tile. That should of been first tile to be cottaged. If you are going to build cottages you need to run them otherwise you might as well have farmed the city and run specialists.

    A city 2 west of the iron could of used sheep and improved cotages for you. Same for south of Berlin where you have double crab site. Problem is you are really late to a bureau style capital. Might be better at your flood plains city.

    Yes good you have taken out an AI but you had loads of land here to peacefully settle. Hatty is a long way away for a swords rush. 15 tiles through forest is too far. Even for an HA rush too.

    Work on your basic economy on your games and you will not be so far behind on techs.

    Right now you need to improve on economy and focus on actual techs that will help you. Calendar for happiness. Currency for trade routes.
     
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