Kingdom Come: Deception (Game Thread)

[RRRaskolnikov]

Meh, I have my raisins.

 

[RRRaskolnikov]

(sorry Arakhor)

@Takhisis: this will feel like a long game for you

 

[Timsup2nothin]

So maf roleblock heh?

For roleblock to work they would have to have guessed the identity of the Doc. No way they roll the dice on that and try to kill Visor...that was some sort of Doc proof doubletap thing.

 

[Golden1Knight]

Oh well, if we have a tracker role or something like that (who for some reason didnt follow Visor or stayed silent) it's a nice opportunity to sniff a wolf.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Okay...this post is a break in my effort to play a different game, but it is a small break to hopefully prevent a bigger break...

Dammit Raskol, I could build the entire _______ gallows from the ground up and hang Dolbster for a wolf. If Tak would just go fetch some posts the ______ dog could prosecute this case! Much like Csargo I HAVE MY RAISINS! But somebody needs to grab Dolbster by the neck and shake him. If he defends himself, great, we learn something.

 

[RRRaskolnikov]

Yeah, because it wasn't proved effective. It worked one time out of three. It proved very effective at setting me up to powerwolf when I randed wolf, and if I had randed wolf I'd have gone right to work powerwolfing again. Since I didn't I took a new approach to playing town.

Coming back to this, and posting in order to not forget in case it later turns ugly.

My point was maybe just one of you randed maf again. Movin on for now.

 

[Dolbster]

Samson is a paragon of towniness

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Samson is a paragon of towniness

I agree, actually, but that doesn't say anything for you.

 

[RRRaskolnikov]

Okay...this post is a break in my effort to play a different game, but it is a small break to hopefully prevent a bigger break...

Dammit Raskol, I could build the entire _______ gallows from the ground up and hang Dolbster for a wolf. If Tak would just go fetch some posts the ______ dog could prosecute this case! Much like Csargo I HAVE MY RAISINS! But somebody needs to grab Dolbster by the neck and shake him. If he defends himself, great, we learn something.

Samson is a paragon of towniness

We just tie up TS and Dolby.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

We just tie up TS and Dolby.

So get to it then! Make some sort of case for voting Dolbster. Plenty of people think TS is a wolf. Heck, I think TS could very well be a wolf. Plenty of people have already voted for TS as a wolf. Dolby had me, a self preserving TS, and the dog, and then the dog lost his furry little mind and switched to me. Someone has to make the case if we are gonna "tie up TS and Dolby."

 

[Dolbster]

I've changed my sig btw.

 

[RRRaskolnikov]

I think I just started.
Might reread Dolbster. Will post if I find something more, and maybe change my vote.

 

[Arakhor]

Well, there's a little over 21 hours left to vote.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Alright, screw it. I made it through night one, and Csargo has volunteered to take night two. It's tunnelin' time!

Eh I’ll talk about Tims issue with me. First of all, I really don’t think that you blew large holes into my case, and most of it was basically “but that behavior could be townie”. You admitted at the end of that that you’d be more game for it. Apparently given the state of the wagons people agreed (I don’t think the majority of the people on the Rakk wagon are mafia).

I was actually more conflicted on the Rakk wagon towards the end and was seriously considering flipping to Tak after probing Tak, and it was just really lackluster. I decided to just stick to my guns because both felt sus to me and I actually wasn’t willing to cast m/m out of the possibilities Pool

Samson used to be a tone read, but I don’t see new!maf Samson in a t/t situation to be the exact vote to put one above the other. Fwiw, in a T/S world I can kinda see him doing that upon reflection, but I think that he waits for the situation to develop more. Also don’t see coaching in the situation

You were on a terrible wagon, not just because of any "conflicted" about your case on Rakkoon, which was so flimsy that it didn't even make me think twice, but was so flimsy that Visor and Raskol both discarded it out of hand; it was terrible because that wagon was running away. I dunno why I couldn't pull you onto the Tak wagon, and I don't know why you didn't join Raskol and Visor and CFD Topsecret since you had been sussing TS all day long...unless you were just perfectly happy with a runaway wagon on a townie...no useful wagonomics, no nothin, just an epic fail for the town.

 

[topsecret]

We just tie up TS and Dolby.

I am fine with this. I have no idea who is the mafia right now.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I kinda want to switch to TS because he just comes in and ignores me and Csargo. Like, he could have at least explained what he saw in Samson. The problem with doing so is that I at least have LA voting with me rn

You had LordArgon voting with you...so what? Why does that keep you from switching? You'd sussed TS. There weren't votes on him, but there had been. You could have made a much stronger case against him than the flimsy bits you had on Rakkoon. At that point Lord Argon was an odds on bet to eventually switch to Tak, just out of self Preservation. I think at that point you didn't expect the Rakkoon wagon to ever really compete, and you were fine if it didn't because the then current wagons were v/v anyway. A real TS wagon might have confused the issue. Or maybe for all the blustery suss on TS you were really just distancing and you are both scum.

 

[Marcher Jovian]

Unvote
Vote: Dolbster

There’s solid enough cases against either of them to consider a lynching, but tying things up can also give the added information about topsecret’s role. If Tak switches back we can get a 4-4 unless one of the non-voters decides to jump in.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Unvote
Vote: Dolbster

There’s solid enough cases against either of them to consider a lynching, but tying things up can also give the added information about topsecret’s role. If Tak switches back we can get a 4-4 unless one of the non-voters decides to jump in.

There's plenty of time so I'm sure they mostly will.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

For the new players, or players who are out of practice...particularly Samson...Dolbster is shamelessly pocketing both Samson and LordArgon. Pocketing meaning that it is hard to lynch someone who would obviously never ever consider lynching you. "Paragons of towniness" is not up to Dolbster to bestow...you gotta consider whether you have actually earned that, or is it just, as was described earlier, an attempt to "butter you up." The fact that he does itopenly with a chuckle shouldn't throw you off. Dolbster has to be brazen as a wolf because he has very little time. Long about day three or four if he is still alive too many people are gonna say "huh, hasn't been NKed, must be a wolf."

Speaking of which...if Dolbster flips wolf we will be hard pressed to figure out which of our current low lying minimal participants he has been pushing deep for the long haul, because there's almost certainly one around somewhere. He can't possibly think that after last game he has a shot at going deep himself.

 

[Dolbster]

These are such reaches for sussing me that it's making me question TRing you Tims

As I've said previously, it seems the only one who felt the Rakkoon case was flimsy was you, otherwise it wouldn't have taken off and got like 7 votes at one point. I didn't get pulled because I'd been sussing Rakkoon for FAR longer than I'd been sussing Tak or TS, who had been townleans. Nevertheless Rakk flipped town, but I was happy with the wagon, despite it being a run away, because the only resistance seemed to be coming from you, who I felt was more compatible than others as a teammate with Rakkoon for some time.

You bring up a quote immediately after I dropped my TR on TS, stating that I could've switched. I eventually dropped my desire to lynch TS that day before Rakkoon took the lead, just based on TS doing better and me missing a few things from here earlier. The elements to make TS viable there weren't there. TS had votes very early in the day, and they'd been gone from him for at least 12, maybe even 24, hours, so that point's just facetious. And let me tell you Tims, if you're suggesting that I didn't push up TS because I didn't want three town wagons instead of two, I'd 100% do that. If you're suggesting that Rakk/Tak/TS is t/t/t, well I think that Tak could be scum since, you know, they're never made a single serious read and I think I'll just go and drop the entirity of Tak's ISOs from Mario and Franklin in this thread right after this and if you're suggesting that I'm teammed with TS, well, I'm am perfectly prepared to claim and I personally think that if I claimed right now I'd be considered confirmable, though I kinda don't want to because I want to sit on it. (Also if I do claim it'll prob me tonight and not tomorrow morning)

I also don't want to be put up with TS (regardless of the tying plan). Idk, I think that he has the role and I think that Arak would prob make it a town role.