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Leader Ability Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Kmart_Elvis, Oct 27, 2018.

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  1. Browd

    Browd Dilettante Administrator

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    You missed some earlier votes -- Peter should be 11, Mvemba should be 14, and Lautaro should be 17.
     
  2. AmazonQueen

    AmazonQueen Virago

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe. [21]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [17]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [20+1=21] - Very powerful if you want to warmonger without being totally hated
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [18]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [17]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [17]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [20]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [21]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [20]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [20]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14]
    36. Wilhemina - Radio Oranje. [17-3=14] - Underwhelming. None of the foriegn trade route abilities are that great but this is worse than Cleo or Peter's ability.

    Edited to take account of Browd's post.
     
  3. OmegaDestroyer

    OmegaDestroyer Chieftain

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe. [21]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [17]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [20+1=21] - Very powerful if you want to warmonger without being totally hated
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [18]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [17]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [17]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [20]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [21]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [20+1=21] Even if you aren't going for Wonders, the extra builder charge is very useful.
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [20]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14]
    36. Wilhemina - Radio Oranje. [14-3=11] - I agree with AmazonQueen. This is an incredibly lackluster power.
     
  4. Xandinho

    Xandinho Warlord

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe. [21]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [17 - 3 = 14] Again, weak and has no synergy with French civilization.
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [18]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [17]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [17]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [20]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [21 + 1 = 22] It has total synergy with the Acropolis
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [21]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [20]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14]
    36. Wilhemina - Radio Oranje. [11]
     
  5. BarbarianHunter

    BarbarianHunter Chieftain

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe. [21]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. 14
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [18]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [17]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [17]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [20]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. 22
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. 22 --- Would you care to expend a builder charge to finish 15% of the colosseum or Petra? Yes please.
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [20]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14]
    36. Wilhemina - Radio Oranje. [8] (11-3) --- meh
     
  6. Lord Lakely

    Lord Lakely Unintentionally a feminist.

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe. [21]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [14]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [18]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [17]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18] (17+1) Underrated, I think. Simply moving your units next to that of an AI that is attacking a third party is enough to gain XP. That's freaking insane. Sumeria have the best XP generation in the entire game.
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [20]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19] (22-3). +5% culture per vassal isn't a lot, you get no bonuses towards earning envoys AND you'll earn less culture in the early game (when extra culture is the most valuable) than Gorgo's ability allows. I see no reason to play Pericles over Gorgo right now.
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [20]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14]
    36. Wilhemina - Radio Oranje. [8]
     
  7. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe. [21]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [15] 14-1 Not not super strong, but fun. Especially as the extra visibility can help militarily in R&F.
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [15] 18-3 the military slot is nice, but I never attack city states
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [17]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [20]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [20]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14]
    36. Wilhemina - Radio Oranje. [8]
     
  8. SammyKhalifa

    SammyKhalifa Warlord

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroe. [21]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [15] 14-1 Not not super strong, but fun. Especially as the extra visibility can help militarily in R&F.
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [15] 18-3 the military slot is nice, but I never attack city states
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [17]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [20]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. 20+1=[21]. How is this not good considering your early wars are the most difficult ones.
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14]
    36. Wilhemina - Radio Oranje. 8-3=[5]. One of my favorite civs, but taken in isolation this ability kind of sucks.
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2018
  9. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [21+1=22] - This is quite nice and useful bonus that will help you throughout the entire game.
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [15]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [15]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [17]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [20]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [21]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14]
    36. Wilhemina - Radio Oranje. [5-3=2] - Increddibly insignificant. Let's put it out of its misery.
     
  10. Kmart_Elvis

    Kmart_Elvis Chieftain

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [22]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [15]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [15]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [17]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [20+1=21] Fastest early culture in the game and rewards early warring. Great to get political philosophy first.
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [21]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14]
    36. Wilhemina - Radio Oranje. [2-3=ELIMINATED] - Love the Netherlands, but this really is the weakest ability. Should be last IMO.
     
  11. AmazonQueen

    AmazonQueen Virago

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [22]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [15]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [15]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [17-3=14] - If you are going faith doesn't really make enough of a difference.
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [21]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [21+1=22] - Agree that the +5 is very helpful early on and makes up to some extent for having to wait till late game for most of Americas bonuses.
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14]
     
  12. Leathaface

    Leathaface Warlord

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [22]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [15]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [15]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. 14
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [21]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [11+1=12] Dunno why this is getting downvoted so much. It can be very helpful early on when playing Immortal or Deity difficulty, especially if you put in the effort to get 2 trade routes early. There are much worse leader abilities.
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. 22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [14-3=11] I rarely start near a continent split, so this ability is near useless.
     
  13. Legacy of Smiles

    Legacy of Smiles Chieftain

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    Nice to see one of these. It's encouraged me to make an account.

    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [22]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [15+1 = 16] It's a +3 attack boost if nothing else and doesn't deserve to be below some other abilities.
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [15]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. 14
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [21]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [20-3 = 17] A 20% refund isn't a lot and it relies on you actually getting great people to begin with.
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [12]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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  14. Weraptor

    Weraptor Chieftain

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [22]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [15+1=16] I love me a military slot
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. 14
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [21]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [12]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [20-3=17] It's pretty meh
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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  15. Mesix

    Mesix One of Porg

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [18+1=19] - set the game to easy mode!
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [22]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. 14
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [21]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [12-3=9] - if the AI is that far ahead in tech/civics, there is something wrong
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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  16. AmazonQueen

    AmazonQueen Virago

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [19]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [22]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. 14
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [21]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [22+1=23] - Either the combat or the district bonus would be ok. Both is excellent.
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [9]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [20-3=17] - Rare that its useful and not that great on those rare occasions.
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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  17. Kmart_Elvis

    Kmart_Elvis Chieftain

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [19]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [22+1=23] Getting 40% bonus towards any district, and can stack with City Patron pantheon and the governor promotion is pretty strong. Fast districts are always valuable.
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [14-3=11] Tricky to get the full bonus, especially at higher levels where AI likes to war. Doesn't seem to do much when I play him.
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [21]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [23]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [9]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial.[20]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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  18. AmazonQueen

    AmazonQueen Virago

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    I must've posted while you were writing so Hojo should be 23 and Tamar 17 :)
     
  19. Kmart_Elvis

    Kmart_Elvis Chieftain

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    Lol I caught that. I edited my post to update accurately.
     
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  20. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [19]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [11]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [20+1=21] - Makes strong units stronger and able to capture even more of these strong units.
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [21]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [23]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [17]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [9]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [20-3=17] - I have mixed feelings about this one. While the bonus strenght against heretics is rather nice, the Inquisitor bonus is almost useless, since I very rarely use them.
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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