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Leader Ability Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Kmart_Elvis, Oct 27, 2018.

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  1. BarbarianHunter

    BarbarianHunter King

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [19]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [11]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [22] --- Useful.
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [23]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [14] --- A higher population requires more amenities. Has the potential to be a curse.
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [9]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [17]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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  2. Legacy of Smiles

    Legacy of Smiles Warlord

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [19+1 = 20] Comes with a unique unit voted third strongest in the game in the UU elimination thread. That alone means it should be above 20.
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [20-3 = 17] IMO third worst after Gandhi. Trade bonus helps others more than you and when was the last time alliance points helped you in any meaningful way?
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [11]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [22]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [23]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [14]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [9]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [17]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  3. Leathaface

    Leathaface Emperor

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. 20
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. 17
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [11-3=8] The extra faith does nothing for me. Maybe if I played on a Huge map? Though I never play above large. (I would if a Huge map didn't come with huge time between turns)
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [22]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [23+1=24] Theatre Districts and Encampments built in half the time? Very useful.
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [14]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [9]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [17]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  4. OmegaDestroyer

    OmegaDestroyer Prince

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. 20
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. 17
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [8]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [22+1=23] An incredibly useful power, especially when dealing with pesky barbarians early on.
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [14]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [14-3=11] Such a worthless ability. Just about every time I play the civ, I don't receive converts. And what's the point of getting apostles for a faith I never founded?
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [9]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [17]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  5. Kmart_Elvis

    Kmart_Elvis Prince

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. 20
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. 17
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [8]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [23]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [14]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [11-3=8] It locks you out of a victory type. Then you're dependent on if an AI spreads religion to you in the first place, and even then, they usually pick bad beliefs for their religion. Ironically, this is actually a fantastic ability for AI, since they ignore religion and prioritize science and culture instead. But for the player, it's more of a handicap than a bonus.
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [9]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [17]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [22+1=23] A great, no frills bonus that can be used for early rushes and providing good defense. A badass leader ability befitting a real life badass.
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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  6. Xandinho

    Xandinho Emperor

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [20]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [17]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [8]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [23]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [14]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [8]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [9 - 3 = 6] Useless, when I play with Russia, I'm hardly ever behind in culture, so it's not worth. And receiving 1 of science from trade routes with civilizations that are with 4 or 5 techs in front of me is quite insignificant.
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [17]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [22 + 1 = 23] An extra worker charge in the course of the game is a good snowball, and when combined with Liang, you can complete easily some wonders of the early game.
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  7. marcopolothefraud

    marcopolothefraud Chieftain

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [20+1] No war weariness is seriously powerful. The health boost is also situationally good.
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [17]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [8]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [23]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [14-3] Riverside holy sites have no adjacency bonuses, and extra food isn't nearly as important as extra production.
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [8]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [6]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [17]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [23]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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  8. AmazonQueen

    AmazonQueen Virago

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [21]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [17]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [8]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [23]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [11]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [8]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [ 6]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [17-3=14] - Hate to downvote one of my favourites to play but +4 vs. other religions doesn't really compare to Teddy or Hojo's +5 and useful more often, and nothing compares to Monty's bonus. The inquisitor bonus is meh compared to the other bonuses those others get.
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [20+1=21] - Best bonus to trade routes anyone gets. Extra visibility is nice too.

    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [ 23]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  9. SammyKhalifa

    SammyKhalifa Deity

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [21]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [17]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [8]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [23]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [11]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [8-3=5] I see where people are coming from when they say that other leader abilities are a very very small bonus. But this one is literally a penalty. At least those other small benefits are not actively limiting you. This should have been the first one out.
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [ 6]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [14]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [ 23+1=24] Many people consider the Pyramids the best wonder. This ability give you Pyramids free + other benefits.
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  10. Xandinho

    Xandinho Emperor

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  11. BarbarianHunter

    BarbarianHunter King

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [21]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [17]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [8]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [23]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [11]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22]

    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [2] (5-3) --- Yeah. This one's pretty bad for players. For the AI, it appears to be a blessing though.
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [ 6]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [14]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [21]

    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [25] (24+1) --- One of the top 5.
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  12. TahamiTsunami

    TahamiTsunami Prince

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    It's great to see more elimination games again! Its certainly a Happy Halloween for me so far!

    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [21]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [17]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [8]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [23]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [11]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [22 + 1 = 23] I'm sure it's been mentioned by now how incredibly useful it is to have extra bonuses due to something you'd want access to anyway!
    20. Mvemba a Nzinga - Religious Convert. [2 - 3 = -1 ELIMINATED ] Definitely unique but still a setback to anyone who may have wanted a religious victory with the Kongo.
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [ 6]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [14]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [21]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [25]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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  13. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Messages:
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    Location:
    Paskov
    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [21]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [17]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [8]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [23]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [11]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [23]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanminous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [6]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [14]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [21]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [25+1=26] - Great for wonder hogging and the extra builder charge remains very useful for the entire game.
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [17-3=14] - 100% more faith for the first 10 turns since declaring protectorate war is laughable. Doubling of envoys you send to a CS with your religion is situational.
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  14. Weraptor

    Weraptor Prince

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    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [21]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [17]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [8-3=5] Peace is not meta, and neither are big maps when going for RV.
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [23+1=24] Best culture gain, when it is relevant.
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [11]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [23]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanimous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [6]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [14]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [21]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [26]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [14]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
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  15. Legacy of Smiles

    Legacy of Smiles Warlord

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    Gender:
    Male
    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [21]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [17-3=14] Still too high IMO for an ability that can largely be a liability
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [6+1=7]I actually really like this boost. Attacking city states is underrated - if you're not investing envoys you might as well take the city. The military policy alone deserves to put it above Egypt/Khmer.
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [5]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [20]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [24]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [11]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [23]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanimous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [6]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [14]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [21]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [26]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [14]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  16. ArallanKing

    ArallanKing Warlord

    Joined:
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    Messages:
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    Location:
    Hong Kong
    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [21]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [14]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [7]
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [5]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [21] 20+1 Buying naval units for ur thalassocracy empire with those faiths you never need? Hell yeah.
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [24]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [11]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [23]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanimous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [6]
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [14]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [21]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [26]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [11] 14-3 This is obviously the most useless leader abl, literally it needs luck to be useful enough.
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  17. Weraptor

    Weraptor Prince

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    There is an error regarding Frederick's amount of points. Should be 17 instead of 7.
     
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  18. Mesix

    Mesix One of Porg

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    Messages:
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    Location:
    Ahch-To
    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [21]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [14]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [18] 17+1=18 - An extra policy card (especially at the start of the game) is nothing to shake a stick at. I also corrected my earlier mistake in the numbering)
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [5]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [21]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [24]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [11]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [23]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanimous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [3] 6-3=3 - His ability does not kick in unless you are lagging behind
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [14]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [21]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [26]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [11]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  19. Timothy001

    Timothy001 Prince

    Joined:
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    Messages:
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    Gender:
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    Location:
    Sudbury, Ontario
    1. Alexander - To The World's End. [21]
    2. Amanitore - Kandake of Meroë. [23]
    3. Catherine - Catherine's Flying Squadron. [16]
    4. Chandragupta - Arthashastra. [20]
    5. Cleopatra - Mediterranean's Bride. [14]
    6. Cyrus - Fall of Babylon. [21]
    7. Frederick Barbarossa - Holy Roman Empire. [19] 18+1=19. Love the extra policy slot
    8. Gandhi - Satyagraha. [5]
    9. Genghis Khan - Mongol Horde. [21]
    10. Gilgamesh - Adventures With Enkidu. [18]
    11. Gitarja - Goddess of the Three Worlds. [21]
    12. Gorgo - Thermopylae. [24]
    13. Harald Hardrada - Thunderbolt of the North. [20]
    14. Hojo Tokimune - Divine Wind. [24]
    15. Jadwiga - Lithuanian Union. [20]
    16. Jayavarman VII - Monasteries of the King. [11]
    17. John Curtin - Citadel of Civilization. [21]
    18. Lautaro - Swift Hawk. [17]
    19. Montezuma - Gifts for the Tlatoani. [23]
    21. Pedro II - Magnanimous. [17]
    22. Pericles - Surrounded by Glory. [19]
    23. Peter - The Grand Embassy. [0] 3-3=0 - His ability does not kick in unless you are lagging behind ELIMINATED
    24. Philip II - El Escorial. [14]
    25. Poundmaker - Favorable Terms. [21]
    26. Qin Shi Huang - The First Emperor. [26]
    27. Robert the Bruce - Bannockburn. [20]
    28. Saladin - Righteousness of the Faith. [22]
    29. Seondeok - Hwarang. [17]
    30. Shaka - Amabutho. [20]
    31. Tamar - Glory to the World, Kingdom, and Faith. [11]
    32. Teddy Roosevelt - Roosevelt Corollary. [23]
    33. Tomyris - Killer of Cyrus. [21]
    34. Trajan - Trajan's Column. [21]
    35. Victoria - Pax Britannica. [11]
     
  20. OmegaDestroyer

    OmegaDestroyer Prince

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    Frederick Barbarossa should be at 9, not 19.
     
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