Leader Fest: An Open Succession Game

[vmxa]

Pyramids Hiawatha 750BC
Colossus Brennus 1525BC
Oracle Khan 750BC
Lighthouse Dutch 250BC
ToA Caliph 90BC
HG Hiawatha 70BC
GW Hitties 30AD
MoM Smoke (not Smoke Jensen) 30AD


War:
Brennus, Wang, Ghandi, Mao, Isabel, Gil, Abu, Ragnar.

130AD:
Mao got there with a spear/settler, so 1st chopped it down. Fill 2nd, 3rd got another sword. Found town, now have 16. 1st in town, land, gold and pop per CAII.

150AD:
1st nailed the Korean settler combo, but Gil got a town up nearby.

170AD:
2nd razed Arabian town. We have a settler near.

190AD:
2 elite swords attack Korean warriors by Brandenburg. The second one gets 4th leader and I rush Pentagon. 4 elite win for a total of 34 to date. All except India are in Middle Ages and Ghandi knows Contsruction. Pikes and MDI are soon to be seen and Knights are not far behind.

210AD:
had 3 solo swords fight all went elite. 3rd killed 2 and got a promotion. Pretty good round. Need to add 4th units.

230AD:
Razed Summerian town. The cat on the mountain by Munich has yet to record a single hit. 2nd will gain 4th sword next turn.

250AD:
2nd and 3rd have 4 units now.

Revolt here and unit support goes from 0 to -27gpt. I actually thought about staying in Despot, but that would not be a fair test. There is little land open in the world right now I would expect.

260AD:
2nd razes Chinese town. Debated keeping as it was not real poorly placed. No roads for sometimes, so razed.

280AD:
India settler arrived by New Leipzig as the razing of the Chinese town opened some space. I have 3 settlers heading that way. One is on site near Hanover.

Most active round so far with 5 towns getting action, pretty much the entire front. BTW I am going for Lit as I could use a few Libs and just in case a freak SGL shows up.

300AD:
Ugh, Gil finally got his first real wave on scene. It is 12 units and many are horses. The good news is I have 2 armies there. I see the AI will not stop sending doomed settlers as Abrabia pulls up next to the 2nd army with a spear towing a settler? At times they can get so active with settler combos that you cannot keep up with them.

320AD:
took down about 7 Arabian units to get a settler near the Chinese town of Kaifeng. Elsewhere more elite wins, now 19.

330AD:
Ain't this a kick in the head? I noticed in CAII that I actually appear to know the Vikes. I guess with so many shades that are similar, I may have seen unit. Possibly they know how to trade contacts. Probably they ran a boat of a unit near enough to see me and I just did not notice.

Well that is fine as this is not about playing AW anyway. I pedal Lit for techs and some gold, no gpt. I did not get an SGL, so no way to get the GLB anyhow. DOW and hope they are far away and are not going to be able to reach me for some time. I would not be shocked to find at least 4 more civs on this landmass as it is sure to be much larger than I have seen.

Well as soon as go back to the game I see a vike settler combo, so we just made contact as I moved the 2nd army. I had thoguht it was Chinese though. So I actually did declare upon contact, before ending the turn. Three more elite wins, runs the count to 24.

350AD:
Another busy turn, 3 or 4 elite wins. I lost track, so count 3 for total of 28. Grabbed two more settler pairs. I want to get a settler out to fill some of this or it will draw any unmet civ to my door. Suns and GLB are underway by a couple nations.

360AD:
I found a Celt settler combo, right where you would expect the AI to send it. Next to one of my armies, thanks. Not having HE is hurting me as I am not getting enough promotions, so not as many elite battles as I would like. China has an MDI coming my way. 32 elite wins.

Stop here as I see I am up in Rat41 and I just got a notice that SOTS is on sale, dang hope to not get delayed too long.

 

[vmxa]

Yeah I got back to this one last night, at least a little.

I know it has only been about day or so, but I was playing CCM and need to readjust. I also installed Sword Of The Stars ultimate collection, so a bit distracted. Here goes.

370AD:
First elite sword battle breaks the ice and I get the 5th leader on the 33rd elite win. Rush HE in New Franklin. The little burg is not even connected yet. Been lots of traffic coming on both ends of the front. New Franklin/New Leipzig have units fron Arabia, India and Korea. The other side by Brandenberg and New Hamburg are getting Spanish, Chinese and the bulk of the Korean units.

I need a settler to move the border forward. Not expanding is lethal in large AW maps. I am working on Chiv now. I have not met any new players to try to peddle techs for Engineering, but several have Eng. I am eligible to build the FP. I will consider the next leader for that. The hard part now is that I should be using these leaders for armies so I can expand. OTOH I need to use non army units to get the leaders. I am a little over 20 turns out for knights. That will make it easier to get solo units into combat with the 2 moves.

380AD:
Got an elite win. BTW if I have the numbers right, it took almost as long to get the
5th leader as all the previous 4 combine. It was 34 elite wins for 4 leaders and then 33 for the 5th. Hope that string is not tested again. At least I have the HE now. Total elite wins 67.

410AD:
Finally got another town up. Score 11 elites.

430AD:
17th elite win nets the 6th leader. Rush FP and total is 84.

440AD:
17th elite win gets the 7th leader and I form the 4th. [91]

I have not added any screens as the land has not really changed very much. Next post I will try to get in a couple.

Anyway hope now to get a little better with the 4th army hitting the streets, HE and FP added to the Pentagon.

 

[vmxa]

Got a little more done.

450AD:
second elite (MDI) get 8th leader and we form the 5th army. [93]
5th gets 3 MDI and the elite leader generator will be added next turn.
Found New Heidleburg.
Still another settler combo for slaves.

460AD:
Fill 4th and 5th so both are 4xMDI. 1st-3rd are 4xSwords.
Move units next to Paoting.

470AD:
Chiv drops a turn and look and do not see anyone knows it, so it must be the lib coming on line was enough. Arabia has 22 units in the area, most will be in my border after capture of Poating.

5th kills pike, 2 mdi kill a spear and archer, one goes elite. e/Sword kills archer and gets leader and captured the town.
9th leader forms 6th [97].

480AD:
21 unts in the borders to start this turn.
3rd elite gets a leader, but I cannot make an army as I have 24 towns and 6 armies now. I will disband one of the sword armies and make an MDI army.

The trick for me will be to find an army that I can spare, unless I wait for the leader to get to the armies location. MDI armies are much better than swords now that pikes are around and knights will be soon. I could wait for knights, but it is still a ways off
and I would need to wait some to get the 4 knights. It is one of those things that will be fluid and may change my mind.

It was the 3rd elite win, though I did have one GS retreat from an elite sword (they do not count) [100]. Hey 100th elite victory.
I won't add in any elite wins, until I use the 10th leader for something. I may rush a market or aqua, if I have more elites I need to use.

I see too many places were I have to use elites, so I disband the 1st and form a new
1st. The 6th is not filled. Wow, 2nd elite gets another leader the 11th. [102] Still 11 units in the border, 2 are boats.

490AD:
34 units, so I use the 3rd once and disband it and form a new 3rd. Still 13, 2 boats.

520AD:
1st is MDI 3x, 2nd is sword 4x, 3rd is MDI 3x, 4th is MDI 4x, 5th is MDI 4x, 6th is MDI
1x.

I am close to knights so I will not add the 4th unit. I will stick in a knight with the MDI, then the 3 defense knight will defend, if attacked. It will make the army less likely to be attacked.

550AD:
Filled all the armies, three got a single knight. Many are building GLB and Gil started Leo this turn. I shed a tear as one of the towns popped up with KT build. I changed it as no hand built Wonders. I could have all three built by now Leo, Sun maybe not KT yet. I was first to at least Lit and Chiv as far as I can tell.

Chopped down all, but 5 in borders. Getting too many units to push forward. 22 elite wins and no leader. I want to swap out that last sword army for a knight army.

560AD:
capture Tatung an 4 gold. Run elite count to 26. After killing more than a dozen units I end up with more in the borders than at the start of the turn. The new town added about 2 dozen in the lands.

570AD:
Took 29 elite wins, but finally got 12th leader. [131]
Sent leader to New Heidleberg, will swap out the sword army there next turn.

 

[darski]

I find it interesting that you think you are waiting too long between leaders. I usually only get one over 5 games. Five in one game would be extreme combat for me Actually 5 in 5 games would be extreme.

I'm glad you picked this game up. it's a good read.

 

[vmxa]

Well remember how many battles I am having. I am currently at 180 elite wins and 17 leaders. A little over 1 for every 10.5 wins. That is about par for my circumstance. I was slowed by the variant not letting me build wonders of any kind.

Having to to sit on leaders for lack of towns to make armies. All in all I am in good shape as I am now able to move out a little and was able to dump my early armies, since I could not make additional ones.

 

[vmxa]

580AD:
2nd kills LB and goes to Tatung to disband. As I had the 100 shields, I went ahead and rushed a market. Not needed right now, but nothing better. Leader forms a new
2nd army.

590AD:
2 elites gets 13th leader. Want to replace one of the all MDI armies, but not enough knights right now [133]. Go ahead and use 5th once and disband for a knight and form 5th again.

620AD:
14th elite wins gets 14th leader. I use 1st and disband for a knight. Form 1st. [147]
Eng in 2, will help some of the problems with rivers that I have had.

e/knight and 2nd raze Kaif for 4 slaves and some gold. It was not badly placed, but it was size 9 and had units all around it. So it would have been risky to try to keep and I wanted some slaves. Should get a settler near in 2 turns. Just as soon as I fill one
army, I have another empty one.

650AD:
Found town finally.

660AD:
17th elite victories yields leader number 15 [162]. 3 armies are knights, not all filled. 2 are 3xMDI +knight and one is all MDI.
I have disbanded a number of MDI's that are not needed now or already make a leader to get more knights. It also dropped my support, with the additional town.

670AD:
Had to use a lot of elites, even though I have a leader to help clear the land. The 3 attacks for knight armies is helping. What is not helping is only having 1 lux. Had to put Berlin on no growth. Clear land down to 3 units and 1 boats.

I see I missd the GLB being finished by Gil in 590AD. Hiawatha captured the Lighthouse recently.

680AD:
I use 3rd to kill a pike and disband, I form 3rd again. Just too many elites fights coming, so I bite the bullet. Again I had gotten all armies filled and now have an empty. I am not pushing as hard as I should, since I do not want to conquest or maybe not even get close to domination. The goal is to get space via leaders, so I need to not use armies to much or risk no leaders and even few elites.

6th elite gets the 16th leader. [168] Only 1 unit in borders now. Settler moving towards site, no roads though. I mean it is the AI, so you would not exepct them to have roads in what was the core by 680AD, would you? Speaking of roads and workers, I have been going very thin. In part I was not able to have them where I needed them and in part I could not afford to make or pay for them and finally I hoped
to use slaves for much of the work.

690AD:
Face more elite battles and again I scrap an army, the 4th and reform it.

710AD:
Found new town almost on top of Canton. We then raze Canton for 5 slaves and some gold. It was size 12. One issue is that as I spread out, I could run into new foes. I am hoping that there are no others that I have not meant on the landmass.

Knight makes the 17th leader, it was the 12th elite win for a total of [180]. I need one more town for the next army, so I will try to hold on.

 

[vmxa]

720AD:
Spain has been holding back as 19 units come into view in one stack. Fair size for Monarch and having lost units requarly.

750AD:
Found New Hanover and now form 7th. Had to eat all those elite battles, now we can start the count again.

760AD:
5th elite win nets 18th leader [185].

770AD:
Well disband 6th for a knight and form 6th again. No MDI in any army at this point. 6th and 7th are 1 man armies right now.
Switch a few units and now 6/7 have 2 units. Ragnar gets Leo done. Mao finished my Sun Tzu as soon as I can find Beijing.

780AD:
9th elite win grabs 19th leader and I park it for now [194].

800AD:
found New Bremen. Autoraze Alesund and my settler is not there yet.
A lot of whacking this turn and a fair amount last turn. No units in border, even with the added towns. I have 2 settlers moving to sites. Still not counting elites as I am sitting on a leader.

810AD:
2nd kills 3 and razes Fustat.

820AD:
found 2 more towns for 31, need 1 for another army.

I do not know why I made the one screen shot, the 820AD is the start of the turn. Too tired to mess with it, probably better off to figure out what is up in the AM.

 

[vmxa]

Not done for the night, but best put up something I am still partially awake.


830AD:
Found Beijing. I am convinced that this is a continent as we have water on several sides. I have not seen new civs. We are on the western side of the world map. I also found Hangchow.

840AD:
Capture Beijing with 6 pikes, LB and spear being killed. It has SoZ and Sun Tzu. I form the 8th.

850AD:
SoZ pops out an AC right on time, thank you.

860AD:
Raze Shantung, it had workers and I end up with 5 slaves and some gold. Remember I found my town right next to them, so I had to free up the space. Still working on keeping the incoming managed, so I can expand and get workers forward.

880AD:
Razed Hangchow for 5 slaves and a treb and more gold.

890AD:
Found new town. Build finishes and wants to make a musket, cool I have salt. Several as it turns out.

900AD:
Found town. 26th elite win gets 20th leader. Need 1 more town to form army. I have one on site. [211]

910AD:
Found town and form 9th. 4th elite gets 21st leader, not going to be using him for a time [215]

920AD:
Met Cleo and trade Gun for Theo. She offered contact with someone, maybe Russia, no thanks. Found town.

930AD:
Pachu dialed me up and made a trade I gave Theo and cash for Chem. two more friends (overseas). Several civs on my land already had all of those techs and Ed/PP at least.

940AD:
Raze Anyang for 2 trebs and one salt its no longer in anyones borders. Ran into my first Muskets. Still no knights, but many have been working on KT for awhile. Busy as battle raged in 6 of the 7 border towns. More elite wins going to waste.

950AD:
Cathy calls me and wants Theo for Republic, sure and BTW DOW. I have no use for Republic, but it wil help me. Each time I learn a tech the game wants to select Republic, now ot won't. BTW Gil has sent the first Knight forward, I knew I should not have said anything.

I think Gil is the tech leader, but I cannot tell, till I catch up. I am guessing the GLB means a lot more than I realized. In every AWM I got the GLB on any size map and stayed the tech leader. Here I still have not caught even though I am allowing contact trades, before DOW.

No GLB means they get those first tier second age techs free with so many civs. I do not know for sure, but odds are there are enough Sci nations to get them or most of them and make them cheaper and trade them eventually or sooner. Normally the GLB gives them to me and I race down the bottom line.

The cost should be making tech slower. I cannot image they have enough towns to make good time. None of the nations I have been fighting have more than 13 towns. I see Cleo has 22 and Hiawatha is probably bigger, given he build 3 early wonders and had a GA for sure and his early UU. Not to mention being AG. I have 38 towns.

960AD:
Sumerian knight kills a musket behind walls, so it starts. Till now they really did little attacking. I had maybe 2 turns were 4 or 5 units would hit a town, but they were lame. I have been attacking them as they stop next to towns, but no culture and most armies are in the field rather than defending.

Found two more towns and form the 10th. I could only find 2 vet knights and a *knight, so I added an elite to the army. I have so many elites that it does not matter to me. That one was not going to be in the action any time soon anyway.

I captured Chengdu with a slave and treb. It was size 11 and CxxxC, still I need to get more towns and land. I also could lnot get a settler there fast enough. China is down to 4 towns.

I razed Muscat as it was next to lots of hills in the back and sand in front. I do not like hills around towns on the front as attacking incoming is harder. It was also 4 spaces away. Got 2 cats and will send then to the replacement town. The settler has to go across tiles with no road. I have armies healing in the spots the settler will travel so he does not need an escort.

Here is a new sight, War Phants.

The screen is at the start of the turn more or less.

 

[vmxa]

Colossus Brennus 1525BC
Pyramids Hiawatha 750BC
Oracle Khan 750BC
SoZ Mao 470BC (captured)
Lighthouse Dutch 250BC
ToA Caliph 90BC
HG Hiawatha 70BC
GW Hitties 30AD
MoM Smoke 30AD
GLB Gil 590AD
Leo Ragnar 760AD
Sun Mao 760AD (Captured)
KT Pachu 970AD
Sistine Hoawatha 1000AD
Copes Isabel 1050AD

Dead:
Mao

25 leaders, 13 armies [237]

970AD:
5th elite gets 22nd leader, parked for now count of elites wins stopped [220].

980AD:
Inca completed KT. Hiawatha started Copes.
Capture Xinjian, will will raze next turn in favor of hill and CxxC. It is a shame I could not raze right off as it was size 11. I would not mind more slaves for later.
Extra strong Korean musket retreated 2 elites knights and the 3rd knight barely got it.

(it was more than 1 turn, till actually abandon Xin)

Razed Najran for 9 slaves and a cat.

990AD:
Found town and form 11th. 2nd elite gets 23rd leader and it is parked. [222]
A rash of new friends, I think the count is now 19. I see that Cleo has dropped back to 19 towns, Inca 23 and Hiawatha 30, I have 44. I see the Dutch are OCC.

1010AD:
Raze Aden (arabian) for 4 slaves. Settler moves to hill for next turn. Move a settler into Vike borders for next turn. I need two more towns for the leader.

1020AD:
Razed Shanghai for 4 slaves and some gold. Razed Tsingtao for 5 slaves and Mao is OCC. Soz has expired as I finished Metal, not sure if it was last or not. Took too long of break before updating log, well that and being old. Going to plant 3 towns next turn, if nothing goes wrong. I also noticed that the Dutch now show unknown, so maybe they will be gone soon.

1030AD:
Yuk Hiawatha started Magellan, so soon everyone will be on the ocean and come visit.

1040AD:
Razed Macao the Chinese are gone. I got 11 slaves and a treb. I had to disband the treb as it could not follow and I did not want to wait. I did not set out to eliminate them, they just were in the spots I was at. I created 4 towns and abandon one. 51 towns right now.

Razed Stravanger for 2 trebs. It was only 2 tiles over from Hanover2. Raze Yamana size 10 for 6 slaves. I not certain, but I do not think I have seen any swords or Ansars. Probably no MDI from Abu, LB they have sent. It is hard to keep track with so many civs.

1050AD:
First elite battle this turn gets the 24th leader. 12th elite win for [234]. I need one more town, settlers moving.

Captured Stockholm as it is right on the grid and that lets me form the 13th. It also brings in dyes for my second lux.

Razed Khurasan, it had only 3 spears, got 4 slaves and now have over 100 slaves. I just noticed I have not seen Spain or Celt units in a while. I see one Celt MDI and that reminded me. I have a number of sites to fill as soon as I can get settlers in place. I have maybe 15 towns on settlers.

1060AD:
Hiawatha completed Sistine in 1000AD. Spain completed Copes in 1050AD. At least only Hiawatha is working on Magel, so the others do not have ocean travel yet.

3rd elite gets 25th leader [237]. This one will head to MA site to rush it.

 

[vmxa]

It got too late to post last night. Will make an effort to get some screens today and post this evening, I hope.

1080AD:
Trade Metal for Education, no use now to capture the GLB, DOW. Rush MT with Rommel, seems appropriate. Found 2 towns and 2 settlers on site.

53 towns. Went ahead and disband a few elite swords to short rush. Probably never get a chance to make a leader as even redline units are iffy for them. They cannot even be used till I have rails to ge them to the redlined invader.

1090AD:
Khan? says hi and we trade Metal for Astro and DOW. Still 3 more to meet someplace. Found 2 more towns. Raze Aarhus for 4 slaves and a treb. Not sure, if I will be willing to escort them back though.

1100AD:
Someone started Bach. Met Liz and decided to go all out and trade MT for Music, Nav and Physic. Could have gotten Map and gpt. I do not take the map as I am enjoying going blind for now. DOW the queen and we have 2 left unmet. Well she also offered contact wiht the Greeks, so I do know they are in the game.

I figure someone will be getting MT fairly soon, so I only have this one shot to cash it in. Nav is just in case I make contact, it can be a added for a chance for a deal. I was a bit surprised as I did not notice Magellan being finished, but MT over rode all. Capture Kolhapur. Just till two settlers can get in place. It is small and I can afford to forego a slave, if I even would have gotten one.

1140AD:
Captured Madras. Not had a leader in some time. Fewer units to attack and using more cavs and they were not elite. Some are elites now.

Working on Ghandi a bit as he has towns on the upper left of the continent and that will reduce running into anyone, should there be someone I have not met on this landmass.

Landings have started, but near the front, so plenty of units at hand. We have 3 lux as we have spices from two areas, Arabia and Indian lands. I see gems by Nampo. I should have them in a few turns as I have settler moving and next turn Inchon will fall, then Nampo.

1160AD:
Razed Mecca for 2 slaves. Razed Inchon for 3 slaves.

1170AD:
I have 66 towns, but no leader luck for some time now. Mostly vets and armies combats, with 21 elite wins. Room fro 3 more armies.

Capture Nampo and 2 slaves with a treb. Got 4th lux in Gems, so I shut off slider. I only kept it at 10% for ease of holding new towns.

1180AD:
Met Mirsil and swap MT and Mag for Bank and a war. Only Greeks left to meet. I probably should have not played AW as it would have been easier on getting some luxs early and staying on top of techs. It would also been better for invading later. I could have just keep at war with a handful of civs near me.

Several were top researchers and I could have beat techs out of them for peace, oh well. I really did not expect to be trailing this long, but no GLB put me in a big hole. Here is a suprise, I bombard a spear and it is a Dutch unit. Not sure if they are here or landed and traveled this far.

Finally a leader, the 26th and it forms the 14th. BTW it was a cav. [259] Planted a few towns this turn and now have 70.

1190AD:
Ghandi actually dropped a sword on one of the coastal towns. I thought I was the only one that still had swords and archers around.

1200AD:
Razed Calcutta for 4 slaves and cat.

1210AD:
Razed Copehagen for 4 slaves and a treb iirc. May have to disband them as we are not that close to borders and not on a road. 73 towns.

1220AD:
Arabia finally sends in Answars.

1230AD:
IBT was less than stellar as losses in several town, including two WE killing muskets. In the end no real harm I guess. Ugh, I see Korean Cav not far away.

1240AD:
Raze Hyangsan for 4 slaves and 87 gold. Razed Lahore for 8 slaves, cat and 3 gold.

1250AD:
After a mere 39 elite wins I finally get a leader, the 27th and form 15th. [298] 26+39 = a long dry spell of late.

1255AD:
Captured Bombay and now have 81 towns.

1260AD:
Finally met Alex, nice guy and we make a deal. I give him Nat for Medince, some older optional techs and we swap world maps. I have several coal tiles connect and at least one I saw not connected. It turns out that Hiawatha is on my continent on the opposite end from me. He was behind Spain, Celt, Vikes, Arabia. Still a shock to not have seen a boat or something by now.

A lot swamps and junlge in the east. I have captured some and Korea sits on the rest and Sumeria behind them. I will trun towards Vikes now as they look to be 2CC, maybe 3CC. Must be 3 as I know they have Leo in Bergen and I do not see it.

1265AD:
Smoke ends the Ottoman emoire, if I read the popup correctly. Secone elite win yields 28th leader and we form 16th army [300]. Frigates suck as do all boats with sail in this game as I lose 2 to galley and caravel.

Razed Cheju (Korean) was crowding our town. Captured Bengal, Chittagong, Karachi. 84 towns.

1270AD:
Found at least one town. Razed Tronheim for 5 slaves. Have rail to each corner now that connects the capitol by rail.

Dead:
Mao, Ottoman

28 leaders, 16 armies [300]

 

[vmxa]

Yet again I played too late to update last night Need to dump the log and I did manage a few shots.

1275AD:
Razed Damascus for 1 cat and 4 slaves. To give the flavor of some nations, the city had 2 pikes and 2 spears and it is the capitol.

Several of the nations I have been at war with for a long time are crushed. I do not want to just roll over them as I need to get settlers in place and be able to defend. I don't want someone else to rush in and fill the land, if I just blitz.

Korea had rifles in the last town I hit. Here are some of the counts:
Arabia 5, India 4, Vike 7, Korea 6, Celts 5. Sumeria and Spain are 9 and 10 as they have not lost towns to me yet. Actually neither have the Celts, so probably Hiawatha did them some damge either directly or indirectly.

1280AD:
Smoke completes Bach. Almost lost a knight army on a rifle, been known to happen. Razed Delhi for 5 slaves and cat, some gold. 88 towns.

1285AD:
Not sure how to track or if to track man made armies. 17th is completed. Will score like this 17(1). 16th elite win gets a leader for 29th and form 18th army [316]. For those whom may not been familiar with these massive maps and AW, it is normal to not see any settlers at this point. I have not see a settler in a very very long time. It would have been mentioned, so you could look back.

The land gets filled and they have too many units. If the map was bigger it would have been due to city max cap. So it is very easy to fill gaps as no one has a settler anyway. If I blast a large open area, they probably would start making settlers. If it was a Sid level, they would not even have workers by now. They would have been disbanded for lack of support.

Frigates have started to show, just a couple, but for sure Hiawatha has 15-20 and eventually they will show. I prefer to have few boats, till I start getting ready to invade. You are not going to match them ship for ship, so let them pound away. Just do not let them damage armies or sructures. I think I have 1, maybe 2 frigates left. Those were put in areas that had lots of traffice from galleys.

Galleys cannot bombard my ships and I hope to sink one now and then. It has not worked out that way this game as I think I sunk 2 and lost 2, something like that. Anyway I am not going to detail ship action, unless it worth it. They will select places they prefer and I either leave it for them to pound or move in a enough troops to absorb the bombing.

I also try to not leave workers on coast, if boats are about that area as I do not want them to bust up the improvements. They tend to not bombard road/rails, unless it have unit on it. I have seen a few where they fired on a resource, but that may have been just a coincident. If they insist on that,then I send units to take the beating and keep the improvement.

Razed Seoul for 5 slaves. It had 4 rifles. Raze Reykjavik for 5 slaves and a treb. I need to go around and disband some of my hand build bombarment units as I have enough captured ones and more more to come. Captured Hyderabad. 92 towns.

1295AD:
First cotingent of Iroq are seen, 9 cav's. I see I failed to note the Hiawatha finished Newton's in 1280AD. He will have a little more time to enjoy it, before I can get into his lands. 21st elite gets 30th leader and forms 19th. Thanks Hiawatha for the targets. [337]

I created 3 more towns and 4 more settlers are in place. Captured Korean towns Ulsan and Pyongang for 4 slaves. Iroq are still 30 towns, I have 98 now. Emperor Kon is down to 3 left.

1300AD:
Hiawatha sends 9 more cavs and an MW to certain death. Plant maybe 6 towns. Razed Bangalore. Captured Wosan, razed Pusan. 107 towns right now. Sitting on Ghandi's last town AFAIK. Careless, I should have reached it, but ran out of workers and forgot that one. One rail would have been enough. Kon is also OCC I think, with units one tile away.

1305AD:
Two horses from Japan show up. I see an area in the fog that has green borders. Are you kidding me another nation that was here all this time and never showed any units till now? I guess Hiawatha is starting to get serious as 24 units arrive. I did not even use armies to smash the last bunch.

Grab the last town and Ghandi is eliminated. Take last Korean town and they are done. 19 nations left. 110 towns.

Screen shows the green borders.

 

[vmxa]

1310AD:
Hiawatha must be feeling a little pinch as he only muster 13 units and few of them are cavs. I am trying to decide on going on to finish Gil. He is the last one on my east, but it is encircled by mountain and two hills. Prefaced by swamps and jungle, so it will be slow going and be hard to get a rail line into quickly. (see screenie)

OTOH Hiawatha is coming form only one direction now. If I swing over to attack Arabia, Spain or or Vikes I open up the possiblity for attack to come from other directions or at least from close quartes.

1315AD:
I lost count, it was either 53 or 57 Japanese horses that arrive during the IBT. 15 mostly slow movers from Hiawatha. Even Gil sent out a handfull of units. The seldom heard from Brennus sends 3. Arabia and Spainare offering a LB each. Best showing of the game, about 90 units. May have to break out some of my old units to help out or use some infantry on offense.

34th elite get 31st leader and forms 20th army [371]. Raze Lagash for 5 slaves and a treb. Still 8 or 9 horses, near. None in borders.

1320AD:
26 Iroq near mostly MDI/MW. A few zerks can be seen. Japan must love horses as they now have 46 on hand, maybe 10 from last batch. Looks like even Isabel is going to party a little with 6 LB in solo acts. Sure would be nice, if I could get an SGL from Sci Meth. No one has Electricity yet. They are likely working on things like Fascism. So I am finally the tech leader. GA is unused of course as no wonders and no UU.

CAII says we have 42 in borders and I count 38 next to town borders. They are all weak stuff though. Start the morning off with an elite win and a leader. The 17th elite in this batch and the 32nd leader forms the 21st army. [388] Now we are smoking, 5th elite get 33rd leader and forms 22nd army [393].

9th elite gets 33rd leader and forms 23rd armmy. [402] Not sure how many I will fill right now as most are elites. Cleared all in our borders. I left 27 just next to the borders. This will let me get in some more leader fishing next turn. I actually used 2 elite MDI. It was really 4, but 2 retreated their targets.

Razed Anjar for 3 slaves and a cat. Capture Isin and a treb. Razed Ur (capitol) for 5 slave and 2 trebs. 115 towns and nearly break even at 90%. Sci Meth next turn and then I will go around and tune up towns and builds.

 

[GamezRule]

Nice Job! Could you post a save?

 

[Sparthage]

lurker's comment: Good job so far. *Subscribes*

 

[vmxa]

Nice Job! Could you post a save?

Thanks guys.

GamezRule
I am too close to the limit here and saves in Rat41 are about 2mb, so I figure I can get 2 maybe 3 till I hit the cap. I do not know what I will end up dumping at that point, so I am not posting any other saves. I can email you a save if you want it. It is about 800kb right now.

Let me know and put the address in the post. Use something like myaddress AT whatever DOT com so bots cannot get it. It has been an issue for sometime and in the past I have had to even delete saves from SG's I was currently still playing. I hate to do that, until at least the game has finished.

 

[GamezRule]

It's no big deal. The pics are fine.

 

[Elephantium]

Add me to the "I'd like to see a save, please" list.

I have a gmail account. It's the same as my CF username

 

[GamezRule]

Well, in that case, i'll take one also.

jaredm19atgmail.com

 

[vmxa]

I sent off the saves. GamezRule I would edit that post and break up that email address to maybe this: jaredm19 AT gmail DOT com.

BTW I had not finished fixed the 4 towns that grew and set the research to 6 turns. You also want to cover the worker stack with a spare army near Bergen.

 

[vmxa]

1325AD:
9th elite gets 35th leader and forms 24th army [411]. Razed Sumner (with GLB) for 4 slaves and a treb.

1330AD:
No SGL, so no ToE, sigh. Hope Hiawatha gets it as I will eliminate him and the free techs will not help. I forgot to mention a number of nations all declared on Pachu, no idea why as he is one of the big dogs. I hope it does not lead to him getting even bigger, but probably will.

18th elite gets 36th leader and forms 25th army [429]. Next elite makes 37th leader and 26th army [430]. This back to back puts the average at 11.62 or right about what the pedia says the odds would be for me. I once make 31 leader in a 10 turn set with iirc 2 back to back to back leaders, but then I think I had over 600 battles in that set.

I have not even tried to fill all the armies, not sure I can. I suspect I can, but it would use up all the cavs and I am not even using many armies in any given turn.

Decide to clear out all units near borders. Razed Medina for 2 slaves. Razed Ereech for 7 slaves, plus 2 I captured on the way. Captured Umma with one slave. Captured Bad-tibira. Gil is now down to 2 towns. I now have 122 towns. I have my last 4 settlers in place, but will get 5 or 6 next turn.

1335AD:
Capture Kish and Agade and eliminate Sumeria. Rare sight as a boats from Rusia arrive on the coast. First boat from another landmass. Razed Hareid for 2 slaves. Razed Odense for 3 slaves (Vikes).

1340AD:
Raze Baghdad for 2 slaves and captured Basra. I placed about 5 towns, not sure.

1345AD:
Smoke finished Magellans. England starts Smith, no one else has so far. Speaking of Smoke a frigate towing a galley arrives by Bad-tibra.

One of the three frigates I have was near trying to intercept some damaged galleys. I pound the frigate with arties and sink the galley.

Russia slips a caravel next to Bengal and arties pound it and frigates sinks it. Cool I have 3 and 2 got kills. 21st elite gets 38th leader and forms 27th army [451]. 68 Iroq near New Berlin3 and 4. AC make leader 39 and forms army 28. It was the 9th elite
[460]. I will retire it as a brick in a new market or wall.

4th elite makes 40th leader and forms 29th army [464]. Captured Bergen with Leo's. Total towns now is 139. I killed all the Iroq units near and some that were close to Bergen. It took 3 cav armies to take Oslo as size 3 town. I have 4 armies in Bergen to discourage attacks there. Still have elites and armies that were not used and 2 or 3 not filled.

Arabia is OCC and will be out next turn. The Dutch have been OCC for some time and I do not know where they are. It is here somewhere as Iroq have taken towns from them. The good news on the Vikes is they are 2CC. The bad is I think I see one of the towns way over in the back of Spain. I also see a color I do not recoqnize. It is not the dutch as there are two places. Too lazy to go through them all to figure it out. It seems CAII colors do not match game colors. It shows Arabia pinkish, while the game has them light green.

Got enough town to drop my support to 19gpt. I also shutdown many of the builds for troops now. I only need units to stick in armies. I actually do not really need any more, unless I want to invade. I suspect I could get the goal with just this continent. Only issue would be Inca running over their landmass. Not sure that would even matter, but they could get nukes and use them.

I could fill 6-8 armeis with infantry and bring maybe 40 armies and let them kill themselves. Then raze the continent. Just as a hedge I will build up factories in 6 places and use them for tanks. Soon I will have to start the ship building program to have enough for any invasion.

I guess I could get by with not that many by looking at the map. I see Hittites are very close to this land. I could in a pinch ferry them or even use a ship chain (nah I think that is an exploit).

1350AD:
Vikes DOW someone, nice for civ that is bleeding to death. I guess if OCC Dutch can a 2CC can. Kufah falls and Arabia is no more. 17th elite gets 41st leader and forms 30th [481]. I just noticed no one researched Free Art.

1355AD:
10th elite gets 42nd leader and forms 31st[474]. Capture Valencia with 4 cav armies.

1360AD:
My next to last elite knight and 4th elite win makes 43rd leader and forms 32nd army
[478]. I fill the 28th, so 4 still empty. I won't fill any more for now. I may change my mind and fill with infantry. Captured Birka. These are not in the strick CxxC, but with rails and cavs and armies, I do not need to be fanatical about it. This is especially true as I am gaining control of the whole continent and have no need for extra support.

16th elite gets 44th leader and forms 33rd [494]. Just discovered the 26 only has one unit. I had just put one unit in the 29th, doh. Now both have just 1. Must have been a fair nuber of units spread around as I used all elite cavs and all non elite cavs as well as many armies to remove units from adjacent tiles. The capture of Birka offered more targets.

Inca has a war with many nations, at least 6, but is getting larger as I feared. They now have 35 towns, more than Hiawatha. I have 150. Capture Lugdunum, it only had 3pikes.

1370AD:
Raze Camuodunum for 4 or 5 slaves. I leave the units in the area alone. They will head to my borders and I can fish on them. I start factories in 6 places. Going to have to make coal plants as I can expect to not get Hoovers.

Posting this reminded me I need to start on some galleons now. Cheap upgrades for Leo's. Dropping research to 40% for breakthrough give +418gpt, money is no longer a concern.

BTW I made peace with several nations, any that are not on my landmass. I just wanted to cut down on the request for peace. I have not seen any units form them.