Leaderhead Database and Request thread

[The Capo]

Could anybody make a Leon Trotsky leaderhead perhaps? That would be moresome. You could use Lincoln as your base, and mix in bits of roosevelt for glasses maybe, and that dutch guy for more facial hair.

I actually have a Trotsky LH WIP on my PC right now. I started it a LONG time ago, and will be finishing it when I get around to my "just for fun" modular civ pack for my mod. There will be civs like the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Confederate States of America, Atlantis, Pirates, etc. So if you don't mind waiting you'll have your Trotsky in due time.

EDIT: to get an idea as to what it looks like, I used Pacal as a base, retextured it, added Meiji's hair (Ekmek's LH), Gandhi's glasses, Lincoln's suit, and a mix of facial hair from Willem and John from Portugal (I forget how to spell his name in Portuguese, is it Joao?)

 

[MadmanOfALeader]

Precisely like that. But if you want to go really Portuguese, you should add the tilde (João).

 

[mechaerik]

Actually, Trotsky was one of the first leaderheads I worked on (even before Menelik). I forgot what happened, but I think I failed miserably.

 

[10lire]

Speaking of which, I presume that to edit it so when you click the 'Leaderhead' dropdown, so that your new leaderheads are sorted alphabetically with all leaderheads (So.. Akbar at the top, followed by Alexander etc.) you need to create one universal 'Civ4leaderheadinfos' including all of your new leaderheads, and copy and paste that one into all of the costum leaderhead folders.

My problem is not the LH dropdown; it is sorted alphabetically (included my custom LHs) and this is what I want.

The problem is here:

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and here:

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I'd like that the first leader is Lorenzo, the second Cavour and the third Mussolini ("historically" sorted).

My Italian Civilization is for avain's Varietas Delectat mod; VD is a modular XML mod; then I have created three Civ4leaderheadinfos files, one for Lorenzo, one for Cavour and one for Mussolini. If the order is set in Civ4leaderheadinfos.xml, how does the game sort the LHs of this civilization in this civilization screen when you have different Civ4leaderheadinfos.xml files?

 

[IgorS]

The LH dropdown is sorted alphabetically and in the two screenshots the LHs are sorted alphabeticaly because this is how you sorted them. You can't make alphabetical order in the dropdown and historical in the Civilopedia- you have to choose since the order of the LHs comes from the LHs file and affects everything.

 

[drjest2000]

I hate making a request since I really can't do much in terms of modding and I know how much effort goes into making a new leaderhead, but I am brought face-to-face with my own incompetence and lack of patience and understanding when I start up Blender and try to do it myself. I am making a Colonization Gold like the Civ Gold mod and I need leaderheads in the worst way.

I need Native American leaderheads and European sorts for the Renaissance or Industrial Revolution eras. I have found lots of great ones for the other regions (Australia, Asia, Africa, Arabia, Oceania), but I am sort of painted into a corner by the era covered by the Col 2 game in terms of what looks right for a Western or Native American leaderhead.

So, if anyone has either a tutorial for absolute freaking mongs on how to use Blender (which ought to be named brain-blender) or a treasure trove of period leaderheads they haven't released, I would be ever so thankful.

*goes back to Blender to try it again*

 

[Ekmek]

did you see my guide http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=267233

 

[drjest2000]

Yes, Ekmek, and it is a great guide! I am just a bit old and used up in terms of brain power. I am having a devil of a time trying to sort out all the widgets in Blender. So the problem isn't with your guide, but with my brains being old and worn out LOL

 

[MadmanOfALeader]

Alphabetically? Since when does M come after C, after which comes L?

 

[IgorS]

Alphabetically? Since when does M come after C, after which comes L?

Benito Mussolini, Camillo Cavour, Lorenzo de Medici.

 

[MadmanOfALeader]

You did notice that he only used last names, Firaxis-style, right?

 

[The Capo]

I always thought it was Benzo Cavour. I guess I have been wrong this whole time.

 

[IgorS]

You did notice that he only used last names, Firaxis-style, right?

It doesn't matter- this is the order they appear in his LHs file. It doesn't have to be alphabetical. Mussolini appears before Cavour and Lorenzo in his file and this is why he is first- I can't see another explanation. And I have already tested this thing many times.

 

[drjest2000]

I know I am a newbie, but I have encountered the same sorting parse in Colonization. If the order of the LeaderInfos file is C, B, A then the sort order in the Civopedia is C, B, A

YourNameHere_CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml

		<LeaderHeadInfo>
			<Type>LEADER_CHARLIE</Type>...
		<LeaderHeadInfo>
			<Type>LEADER_BRAVO</Type>...
		<LeaderHeadInfo>
			<Type>LEADER_ALFA</Type>...

leads to sort order CHARLE, BRAVO, ALFA

When all the LH's LeaderInfos files are separated into the leaderhead folders as in some mods, the sort order is willy-nilly, in my experience it changes and may be sorted by file creation time-stamp on some systems. When the leaderhead info files are separated into folders, the toggle-list the sort order appears random to me. In the Civopedia too.

The only way I have managed to establish a specified sort order is to add all leaderheads to the master CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml in a non-modular manner and set the order I want in that.

 

[10lire]

You did notice that he only used last names, Firaxis-style, right?

It doesn't matter- this is the order they appear in his LHs file. It doesn't have to be alphabetical. Mussolini appears before Cavour and Lorenzo in his file and this is why he is first- I can't see another explanation. And I have already tested this thing many times.

I confirm I don't use complete names, accordingly to Firaxis-style; the complete names (*) are only in the Civilopedia texts. I really wonder if the game extrapolates them from there and then sorts them alphabetically..


(*)
Lorenzo di Piero de' Medici "the Magnificent";
Camillo Paolo Filippo Giulio Benso, Count of Cavour, Count of Isolabella and Leri;
Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini.

When all the LH's LeaderInfos files are separated into the leaderhead folders as in some mods, the sort order is willy-nilly, in my experience it changes and may be sorted by file creation time-stamp on some systems. When the leaderhead info files are separated into folders, the toggle-list the sort order appears random to me. In the Civopedia too.

The only way I have managed to establish a specified sort order is to add all leaderheads to the master CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml in a non-modular manner and set the order I want in that.

I agree with you. I think the LHs was sorted randomly the very first time I loaded the mod, and it remains the same forever.

 

[mamba]

I confirm I don't use complete names, accordingly to Firaxis-style; the complete names (*) are only in the Civilopedia texts. I really wonder if the game extrapolates them from there and then sorts them alphabetically..

The game simply uses the order in which they are found in the LH xml, no sorting at all.

Now if you use modular xml it depends on load order I guess (i.e. all Firaxis default LHs first and then whatever it stumbles across first, which again might be alphabeticaly, depending on where the files are).

 

[Jaugen]

I have a request. How about M. Bison from Street Fighter?

I was thinking using Stalin as a base, and change the uniform's colors to red. Add Hannibal's shoulder pads, and make them white. A plum colored cape. And for a face, maybe Frederick? Mainly for the chin, would have to edit hair and eyebrow colors. A slight edit on the hat's emblem maybe. For animations, I think Gilgamesh's would be funny with him.

 

[IgorS]

I always thought cfkane's Fearless Leader looks a lot like M. Bison.

 

[10lire]

The game simply uses the order in which they are found in the LH xml

Which file(s)? CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml?

 

[NotSoGood]

Which file(s)? CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml?

The CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml, it's in the same folder as CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml file.