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liberation.

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by Arilian, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. Arilian

    Arilian King

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    La Venta is My ally.

    I attack Attila
    Venta declares war to Attila.
    Attila captures la Venta

    A few turns later.

    You have liberated la Venta . They are indebted to you for their survival.
    You have no longer friends with la Venta .
    Attila is now the Ally of la Venta .
    La Venta declares war on you.


    last 4 line is in 1 second.
    hmm?
     
  2. Browd

    Browd Dilettante Administrator

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    Ha! Nice!

    One of the underappreciated things about Attila is that the Huns are one of the few civs that, post-patch, can almost always be relied upon to have a nice stack of gold (mostly from bullying, of course). That's good for selling lux and strat resources for full price, but nightmarish when you are competing for CS loyalty. I really hate it when Attila allies my neighbor CSs before DOWing me.

    Because the AI's turn comes before CS turns, I guess the sequence was: (1) you liberated the CS and then finished your turn; (2) on his turn, Attila did his mischief to make the CS his ally (bought loyalty with gold?, but coup might also explain your swift fall from friend status); and (3) by the time the CS's turn came, because it was now Attila's ally, it DOWed you.

    Definitely not nice, but, hey, if you ever get to a UN vote, you're assured of the CS's vote....
     
  3. Arilian

    Arilian King

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    "Because the AI's turn comes before CS turns, I guess the sequence was: (1) you liberated the CS and then finished your turn; (2) on his turn, Attila did his mischief to make the CS his ally (bought loyalty with gold?, but coup might also explain your swift fall from friend status); and (3) by the time the CS's turn came, because it was now Attila's ally, it DOWed you. "

    No.

    It was 1 turn (in fact 1 sec :)). There was no time for Attila to do anything.
     
  4. Browd

    Browd Dilettante Administrator

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    So all this happened after liberation and before you even had a chance to hit "Next Turn"?

    Wow, that's buggy.
     
  5. Arilian

    Arilian King

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    Exactly. I acutally have a save if someone might interested.
     
  6. crawf0rd

    crawf0rd The One and Only

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    Attila had to be at war with you to have la venta DOW you. If that is true, it would've been stuck at -60 to Attila, meaning he couldn't have become its ally unless he DOW'd you that turn. Post a save file or some screenshots.
     
  7. Heretiv

    Heretiv Warlord

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    Apart from any true bugs, it is annoying that liberating a CS doesn't give you any sort of residual bonus to friendship.
     

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