woopdeedoo
King
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Okay, on with the show 
. First of all we finish a tall building with flowing waters:
The best laid plans of mice and men backfire: Taoism is FIDAL. It turns out we may have a contender for victory, Asoka may turn into a runaway Civ...
The Scientist built an academy in the capital instead. We met a nun:
Actually by variant rules I think I lost the game:
Sorry! I caved in as I thought that cows are not worth the trouble, not noticing Izzy was annoyed already. We have to DOW her within ten turns regardless.
I behaved like a Sir though and went side to side with a friend:
OB with Asoka got canceled. War is brewing in any case - Justinian has his hands full and we are the most likely target.
He can only come down south though as Asoka is the only one who has OB with him:
Moscow is building Temple of Artemis now. We're on route to Music. I guess it's time to get some units though...
. First of all we finish a tall building with flowing waters:
The best laid plans of mice and men backfire: Taoism is FIDAL. It turns out we may have a contender for victory, Asoka may turn into a runaway Civ...
The Scientist built an academy in the capital instead. We met a nun:
Actually by variant rules I think I lost the game:
Sorry! I caved in as I thought that cows are not worth the trouble, not noticing Izzy was annoyed already. We have to DOW her within ten turns regardless.
I behaved like a Sir though and went side to side with a friend:
OB with Asoka got canceled. War is brewing in any case - Justinian has his hands full and we are the most likely target.
He can only come down south though as Asoka is the only one who has OB with him:
Moscow is building Temple of Artemis now. We're on route to Music. I guess it's time to get some units though...
pigswill
fly (one day)
Looka fun. Shame about Taoism, I guess Asoka was saving the GS for maximum annoyance.
astre is UP to survive the faux war.
Isabella is annoyed with us and we still don't know where she lives.
astre is UP to survive the faux war.
Isabella is annoyed with us and we still don't know where she lives.
The plan seem to be straight forward:
continue to build an economy with tribunal in most cities, put scientists at work as mutch as possible, continue aesthetic, litterature, music.
build wonder when we can (ToA is in good shape, will whip it asap)
connect the horses
do not build more cities (we don't need them)
But we have to matter about foreigners...
we do have the smallest army at this time (our opponent armies are 1.1 to 2 times our army)
justinian will declare us but he is oversea.
do we really want to counter him or a defence of our home sweet home will be enought.
isabella, what exactly must be done? find her? fake declare on her?
And if charlemagne want to DoW asoka, we want to take our share
I think more armies are required (we have barrely 1 army per city at this time :/) a set of 1 archer per city is not that mutch but will help a lot raising our army and enable our axe warrior to be able to move forward for gold and cities ^^
continue to build an economy with tribunal in most cities, put scientists at work as mutch as possible, continue aesthetic, litterature, music.
build wonder when we can (ToA is in good shape, will whip it asap)
connect the horses
do not build more cities (we don't need them)
But we have to matter about foreigners...
we do have the smallest army at this time (our opponent armies are 1.1 to 2 times our army)
justinian will declare us but he is oversea.
do we really want to counter him or a defence of our home sweet home will be enought.
isabella, what exactly must be done? find her? fake declare on her?
And if charlemagne want to DoW asoka, we want to take our share
I think more armies are required (we have barrely 1 army per city at this time :/) a set of 1 archer per city is not that mutch but will help a lot raising our army and enable our axe warrior to be able to move forward for gold and cities ^^
woopdeedoo
King
Having a look at the save and I have to agree with Astre. We need to up our power. although for the cultural aspect of the game the building of the monasteries are important, considering w need to DoW Isa and that Justin is likely to DoW us soon, more garrisons are desperately needed! Some more Buddhism is also needed across our lands.
A navy to get across the oceans won't hurt either.
astre, you are UP. I am ON DECK
A navy to get across the oceans won't hurt either.
astre, you are UP. I am ON DECK
will play tomorow.
and require clarification on the variant used.
Do I DoW isabella asap the 10 turns are over?
when justinian declare on us, will we be at war for ever?
(sound like a AW gamplan ^^ )
After we are at war with someone, do we have to attack him?
or a fake war is sufficient?
and require clarification on the variant used.
Do I DoW isabella asap the 10 turns are over?
when justinian declare on us, will we be at war for ever?
(sound like a AW gamplan ^^ )
After we are at war with someone, do we have to attack him?
or a fake war is sufficient?
woopdeedoo
King
So we must DoW Isa as soon as the 10 turns are over (we weren't actually allowed to give in but let that slide) and fight until they capitulate. If Justin DoW's us, we must fight him until he is dead. I think the time for serious diplomacy is now in order to try and stop Justin from DoW-ing us. Maybe switching to no state religion and gifting some resources to him.
okay, but my last question remain, when at war with isabelle, do we need to go for her or can we be at war forever?
It change pretty mutch a lot of things.
In the first case, we need to build a invasion army but in the second case, we just fortify a little bit...
It change pretty mutch a lot of things.
In the first case, we need to build a invasion army but in the second case, we just fortify a little bit...
woopdeedoo
King
As far as I am concerned, we can be at war forever. As I mentioned, though, the looming Byzantine conflict is actually of more concern to me at this time so the way I see it, a fake war with Isa while we invade Bysantine lands is the most likely future of our game as it stands now.
pigswill
fly (one day)
I suspect its too late to stop Justinian delcaring on us though I'm not an expert on war declarations.
We do need archery to replace our garrison axes but we can get that in one turn. Maybe add some swords. Finding Isabella might also be useful.
We do need archery to replace our garrison axes but we can get that in one turn. Maybe add some swords. Finding Isabella might also be useful.
I'm playing at this time.
here is the start of sumary:
I have 2 questions at this point:
do I trade aestetic to zara and charlemagn for calendar and monarchy?
do i swap to organised religion (and HR if available)?
As aestetic is not a monopoly (asokoa have litterature
), I would reply yes to both questions, but what do you think?
here is the start of sumary:
Spoiler :
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I have 2 questions at this point:
do I trade aestetic to zara and charlemagn for calendar and monarchy?
do i swap to organised religion (and HR if available)?
As aestetic is not a monopoly (asokoa have litterature
), I would reply yes to both questions, but what do you think?woopdeedoo
King
Can you post the save for a closer look?
pigswill
fly (one day)
Trade aesthetics.
Adopt HR after monarchy trade. I'd leave OR for now if we're building units because its a fairly expensive civic.
Adopt HR after monarchy trade. I'd leave OR for now if we're building units because its a fairly expensive civic.
here is the save.
The thing about OR is that is free with HR and that we still have lots of building left to be build (courthouse at this time and more in the future)
Including wonders (that does count, no?)
war is not a pressing matter at this right time. Therefore, I didn't push for military so mutch but archer will be sent to be built just after our beloved courthouse ^^
The thing about OR is that is free with HR and that we still have lots of building left to be build (courthouse at this time and more in the future)
Including wonders (that does count, no?)
war is not a pressing matter at this right time. Therefore, I didn't push for military so mutch but archer will be sent to be built just after our beloved courthouse ^^
In the end, i traded and swap to OR and HR.
The report may be a little bit blured but overall it is that:
T0 :
Whip monasterie in paris and Reims
Change production courthouse on Novgorod and st Petersburg.
T1:
Production of reims -> courthouse
Production of Paris -> barrack
T2:
temple of arthemis done, whip the market
trade silk for ivory with zara
T3:
Whip a courthouse in phoenicean
Connect horse spot
T4:
Orleans produce monastery go for courthouse.
T5
Phoenicean -> galley
Micro paris for no growth
One turn late, declare to Isabella (forgot)
We get an immediate -1 with Justinian.
Whip courthouse st Petersburg
T6
Aesthetic gained, go to literature
I asked politely archery to zara and recognized Im a true sir and give me the tech
I try again with Charlemagne and he gives us monotheism.
Whip courthouse in Novgorod
Whip fish boat in tours
Start Parthenon in st Petersburg.
T7
Trade aesthetic + gold for calendar to zara
Trade aesthetic + gold for monarchy to charlemagn
Change civic to HR + OR
T8
Whip courthouse in Orleans
T9
Spearmen build in paris go to mausoleum
Galley built in Phoenician go for archer
T10-11
Finish literature
Trade rice against 4 gold to Justinian
Try to give him cow to increase the relation but with no benefict 
This is to cancel asap
TGL can be build somewhere, but where?
Moscow seems a nice place
In summary:
finish temple or arthemis
gained: aestetism, litterature, calandar, monarchy, monotheism and archery (not that bad in 11 turns ^^ )
I build courthouse everywhere and begin to build some units and a boat.
What to do next?
build wonders (TGL, parthenon and mausellum) and units.
2-3 workers could be good also.
race to music with asaka (not sure we will win this one)
The report may be a little bit blured but overall it is that:
T0 :
Whip monasterie in paris and Reims
Change production courthouse on Novgorod and st Petersburg.
T1:
Production of reims -> courthouse
Production of Paris -> barrack
T2:
temple of arthemis done, whip the market
trade silk for ivory with zara
T3:
Whip a courthouse in phoenicean
Connect horse spot
T4:
Orleans produce monastery go for courthouse.
T5
Phoenicean -> galley
Micro paris for no growth
One turn late, declare to Isabella (forgot)
We get an immediate -1 with Justinian.
Whip courthouse st Petersburg
T6
Aesthetic gained, go to literature
I asked politely archery to zara and recognized Im a true sir and give me the tech
I try again with Charlemagne and he gives us monotheism.
Whip courthouse in Novgorod
Whip fish boat in tours
Start Parthenon in st Petersburg.
T7
Trade aesthetic + gold for calendar to zara
Trade aesthetic + gold for monarchy to charlemagn
Change civic to HR + OR
T8
Whip courthouse in Orleans
T9
Spearmen build in paris go to mausoleum
Galley built in Phoenician go for archer
T10-11
Finish literature
Trade rice against 4 gold to Justinian
Try to give him cow to increase the relation but with no benefict 
This is to cancel asap
TGL can be build somewhere, but where?
Moscow seems a nice place
In summary:
finish temple or arthemis
gained: aestetism, litterature, calandar, monarchy, monotheism and archery (not that bad in 11 turns ^^ )
I build courthouse everywhere and begin to build some units and a boat.
What to do next?
build wonders (TGL, parthenon and mausellum) and units.
2-3 workers could be good also.
race to music with asaka (not sure we will win this one)
woopdeedoo
King
This is a got it. I will have a look and comment/post PPP later. Note that I am scheduled for a business trip this week but should have some time today to post everything.
pigswill
fly (one day)
Had a look at the save. Some random thoughts: I reckon Moscow needs farms not cottages to support more mines. Moscow may be better off postponing CH and building rax>archers instead.
Maybe consider postponing CH in Rheims and chopping out Glib instead.
Maybe consider postponing CH in Rheims and chopping out Glib instead.
woopdeedoo
King
Had a look at the save and my thoughts are as follows:
Paris can be micro-ed to hire two scientists, working mines and not working 2 cottages to starve out the sickness.
Moscow has some decent production and should go CH>Rax>units. Unless we decide to do the GLib there instead of Rheims as piswill proposed. I am torn on this...
Novgorod should get a lighthouse after the market and then spam a few boats for us.
St Pete and Lyons needs some worker love.
Rheims only has two or so forests available for the chop, I'm unsure if this is the best place for GLib although if we get it, it would help with the Ethiopian cultural pressure. Maybe chop units instead?
Tours needs some worker love as well.
Phoenician looks nice. Fire the spy, hire two scientists.
If we get the GA from Music, what to do with him??
I would consider selling meditation to Justinian for whatever cash he is willing to give up and up the research to try and snag the GA from Music.
Apart from the infra mentioned above, I plan on getting some actual military out to save us from any potential dogpile by our companions on this continent.
Paris can be micro-ed to hire two scientists, working mines and not working 2 cottages to starve out the sickness.
Moscow has some decent production and should go CH>Rax>units. Unless we decide to do the GLib there instead of Rheims as piswill proposed. I am torn on this...
Novgorod should get a lighthouse after the market and then spam a few boats for us.
St Pete and Lyons needs some worker love.
Rheims only has two or so forests available for the chop, I'm unsure if this is the best place for GLib although if we get it, it would help with the Ethiopian cultural pressure. Maybe chop units instead?
Tours needs some worker love as well.
Phoenician looks nice. Fire the spy, hire two scientists.
If we get the GA from Music, what to do with him??
I would consider selling meditation to Justinian for whatever cash he is willing to give up and up the research to try and snag the GA from Music.
Apart from the infra mentioned above, I plan on getting some actual military out to save us from any potential dogpile by our companions on this continent.
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