Looking to buy this laptop for Civ 5...

there is no 585M
not yet ;)

well okay, I won't buy another computer atm. - what settings would you recommend, to encounter only 1 crash all 70 turns (or something like that, something "bearable") ? and must I forget completely about mods, if playing bigger than on a small map?
 
to play on small maps? sufficient.

I'm wondering if the Intel (r) CoreTM I7 Turbo Modus causes the problem. The 740qm has only 1,73Ghz which isn't enough (1,8Ghz is recommended) and IF this doesn't work as ...promised (by intel)... Civ5 would ran better on a i3 with 2,4Ghz than on the i7 with 1,87 (which only theoretical go up to 2,8).
 
to play on small maps? sufficient.

I'm wondering if the Intel (r) CoreTM I7 Turbo Modus causes the problem. The 740qm has only 1,73Ghz which isn't enough (1,8Ghz is recommended) and IF this doesn't work as ...promised (by intel)... Civ5 would ran better on a i3 with 2,4Ghz than on the i7 with 1,87 (which only theoretical go up to 2,8).

Software programs should run better at higher frequencies, but I really doubt slightly lower frequency is the problem. If you would like to check, you can download CPU-Z

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

and run it at the same time as Civ, and check what frequency your processor is actually running at. There are other programs to check core temperature as well, if you are interested in that. The i7 should be achieving higher frequencies if the cores arent very utilized anyways, so it should always be better than an i3.
 
If you want a more modern one for $150 more, theres

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115989

The 6650 should perform a lot better than the 5650 in DX11. The processor is AMD Phenom II quad core, which is a line of processor known for its ok performance and low price.


It takes another $400-600 to get significantly better again, for a high-end laptop [albeit bottom of the top]

You should really buy a desktop if you want a cheap machine that performs decently. Cheap desktops tend to be better deals than cheap laptops.
 
If you want a more modern one for $150 more, theres

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115989

The 6650 should perform a lot better than the 5650 in DX11. The processor is AMD Phenom II quad core, which is a line of processor known for its ok performance and low price.


It takes another $400-600 to get significantly better again, for a high-end laptop [albeit bottom of the top]

You should really buy a desktop if you want a cheap machine that performs decently. Cheap desktops tend to be better deals than cheap laptops.

Thanks smote
 
The 6650 should perform a lot better than the 5650 in DX11. The processor is AMD Phenom II quad core, which is a line of processor known for its ok performance and low price.

:confused: A 6650m is not much different from a 5650m, I would expect it to be a few percent faster at best. And that advantage will be more than negated by the higher display resolution of the Acer machine.

And the i3 will be about 50% faster than that Phenom II in Civ5. It would take very well parallelized software for the Phenom to be faster, and Civ certainly isn't.

The HP is a much better choice for Civ5, and it's less expensive, too :)
 
I have no idea what's written inside it, but I've uploaded a cpu-z report, if anyone is interested.

the Intel "gadget" which was preinstalled shows (at the moment) 2,13Ghz... it stays there while civ5 is in the background.

oh and yesterday I found out about "energy saving" - switching this completely off made the screen much brighter and the ventilation (after 187 turns without crash) moderately louder. hopefully that makes civ5 more stable. I put the graphics of water and leaderheads on minimum the rest on max, without any AA.

furthermore I'd like to deactivate windows Aero, but I haven't found out yet, how to.
 

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Tokala may be correct about the processor. I don't have proof either way. A couple benchmarks I looked at rated the Phenom a lot higher, but perhaps the test was more multithreaded than CiV, and the higher frequency makes Civ5 better on an i3. I still won't ever advise a dual-core computer, however.

My dad plays civ just fine on a desktop Phenom II x4.

In regards to the graphics card:

"AMD Radeon HD 6650M (also known as ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6650) is the fastest video card middle class notebook. It supports DirectX 11, is the successor to HD 5650. Feature map: higher frequency 80 shaders, support and Eyefinity + new video decoder UVD3. However, the adapter is still produced on 40-nm process and is based on the chip and card Whister series 6700M and 6600M. In fact, 6650M is an adapter card 6750M with DDR3.

480 stream processors based on the “old” architecture, similar to the 5 d, which was used in the 5000-series cards. Consequently, the number of shaders are not comparable with the number of one-dimensional shaders in graphics processors from NVIDIA. The tessellation with new cards will be improved (is the same as in desktop 6800 series) . Streaming processors may be used with DirectX 11 and OpenGL 4, DirectCompute 11 and OpenCL. Can also be used to perform common calculations, such as video transcoding."
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http://technomoot.com/2011/02/07/amd-radeon-hd-6650m-graphics-card.html

"We use tessellation for the Civilization V terrain, which adjusts the mesh's subdivision of the terrain as the user zooms in and out. Not only does it add detail, but terrain tessellation makes the game measurably faster on both Nvidia and AMD hardware (as much as 30% in some cases). "
-Dan Baker

Since Civ5 uses modern graphics, modern graphics cards are best.
 
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