Wow, I really lilke all the icons
Fantastic job on them janboruta, thanks!
From the two Hussar icons, I would use the green one
For main civs colors, I'm glad you are also with combination 4. That's the more fitting for sure
I like the art very much, janboruta! I'd also say that the green version of the hussar looks better. Considering the leader art, I'd like to suggest something: the gap at the crown looks a bit strange to me, I suggest to fill it up similar to how it is done here:
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As of the civ colours, I'm still undecied unfortunately. I believe we have two possible combinations to decide between: 4) and 7). Would it mean a lot of work to do two icons so we can decide on the final results? No matter which one will win, I could imagine to provide the other combo as a separate patch. The colour codes are as follows:
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Combo 4):
- red - RGB: 166, 86, 86 / 0.6510, 0.3373, 0.3373
- white is just plain white: 255, 255, 255 / 1, 1, 1
Finally, about the Landwehr. Although the art itself is great, I think that the uniform is not the correct one. The colouring of your icon is the one commonly used for austrian military units. Although I am not an expert for military history, I think this is more typical for k.u.k. military than k.k. military. To clearify the matter: there were 3 armies in the austro-hungarian monarchy: an austrian (k.k.), a hungarian (k.u.) and a common army (k.u.k.). To reflect austria with most accuracy, I decided for k.k. Landwehr and all pictures I saw showed a blueish grey colouring, just as bernies unit is. I couldn't find any other images than those I already linked you, but I think you'll see my point. Other than that, the icon is fine and I can imagine that it will be of use for others having a different unit for austria - so please don't discard it. It just doesn't match the colours of bernies 3d art. So, working on the colours while keeping the theme would do it for me.
Having said all this: I'd like to thank you again for your great work!
P.S. Do you think that the icon of Austria should be changed so that the coat of arms can be distinguished more easily from the polish? If so, I'd gladly include it with my mod.
Ok. I saw two versions of the crown and couldn't decide which one would be better. The "filling" has acutally a feudal meaning about sovereignty. Actually, the "full" design with the cross attached would come from the 16th century. Most probably the original design was only the "corona graeca", without any kind of cupola over it ("corona latina"), so using the full design with Istvan is extremely anachronistic. I will provide two more versions then
As of the civ colours, I'm still undecied unfortunately. I believe we have two possible combinations to decide between: 4) and 7). Would it mean a lot of work to do two icons so we can decide on the final results?
No. If you were happy with my earlier design with the cross looking more natural (not just "ideal" perpendicular sticks), then assigning new colours will take less than writing this entire post.
Finally, about the Landwehr. Although the art itself is great, I think that the uniform is not the correct one. The colouring of your icon is the one commonly used for austrian military units.
I must admit that this icon was difficult to find references for. Seeing that Landwehr uniforms differed between provinces, I chose to follow this uniform from 1866 (first from the right on the cover http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/18...mp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1855328011 ). I knew that bernie's model had the whole uniform grayish-blue, but I found it extremely unappealing and dull for an icon. I will change the colour, it's a matter of a few minutes, but I did the original one from an aesthethic point of view
P.S. Do you think that the icon of Austria should be changed so that the coat of arms can be distinguished more easily from the polish? If so, I'd gladly include it with my mod.
Not without changing the faction colour. I expected that Austria in Civ will follow the traditional Habsburg colours (black and gold), and that it will use the Doppeladler instead of the modern coat of arms. I guess modding the colours isn't too difficult, so I would suggest bright yellow background, black eagle. I will see what I can do. It won't be difficult to distinguish from Russia, which has orange background (like in Civ4)
First, Istvan. Two versions - one with full crown, second only with the basic "corona graeca", which was the base for future additions ("corona latina" was added during the reign of Bela III or so, the cross even later).
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Landwehr. Edited the colour, but left everything else as it was. I hope you won't mind, as I really love this hat and longer coats It didn't turn out bad at all as I feared.
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Civ icons. I added the colours you specified and version 4 is still the best
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Proposal for Austria. Black is pure 0:0:0, yellow is 255:233:0
Regarding István, I personally like the first of the two new icons. It's true that it is anachronistic to use holy crown of Hungary as it is now with István (I think I heard alternative theories as well, that István even had a completely different crown), but the crown is still so closely connected to him, that I'd say it should be nevertheless. Seeing the crown reduced to the lower part appears strange to me. Not because you would have done a mstake, but because the partial crown feels unusual to me. Well, let's see what Absinthe will say. Anyways, could you update the dom and the diplo image in case of we decide for one of the two new designs?
The new Landwehr icon looks fantastic! I see your point about the aesthethic aspect, but the new icon will match the actual unit better and still looks very well. Well done!
I agree that the first icon for Hungary looks better. Still, my laptop has a display with few coontrast, so I will check it tomorrow again on my desktop pc. Also, I'd like to give it a shot in game, so I guess I'll try to get the linked images down and convert them.
As of Austria, editing the civ colours is pretty easy. I would gladly include your icon and you colour suggestions into my mod. I'll edit the colours and share a preview here tomorrow.
"When the intersecting bands were added to the corona graeca during the rule of Béla III,(...)". This is hardly a mistake. It's more plausible for the crown to be of simpler design when first created, if we assume that it was made around AD 1000. If we assume that it was created during the reign of Béla III, then the entirety of it - as we know it - may have been created, although the cross is believed to be a yet later addition. There is no certainty about the history of the Holy Crown - so I wanted to explore the possibilities.
Anyway, now you have three versions to choose from
Thank you for other comments, I'm really happy that you like those icons. Looking forward to all previews, particularly the Austrian one. I chose the colour to be a tad brighter and less orange than Russian one, so I hope it will be ok.
Just as a comparison, this is the what I use for civ colors in Civ IV:
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It's a little farther from red then I would like, but on a historical map between Venice and Poland it's hard to stick to proper red (so the same issue as here)
Still, rather close to the pale red version here, which I think is perfect. Maybe will try that exact color in RFCE too
About the crown, I think all hungarian know it's anachronism to use a full holy crown (full as it is today), yet it's often represented that way. I guess in honor of István
So I would probably use that one... altough the second version you provided in the last post also looks nice and probably much more historical
I can live it both, but don't use the very first one from the last page. Cool3a2 is right, that looks strange
It's a little farther from red then I would like, but on a historical map between Venice and Poland it's hard to stick to proper red (so the same issue as here)
Still, rather close to the pale red version here, which I think is perfect. Maybe will try that exact color in RFCE too
About the crown, I think all hungarian know it's anachronism to use a full holy crown (full as it is today), yet it's often represented that way. I guess in honor of István
So I would probably use that one... altough the second version you provided in the last post also looks nice and probably much more historical
I can live it both, but don't use the very first one from the last page. Cool3a2 is right, that looks strange
Ok, understood Sorry for any mistakes, but I've encountered both a hollow crown and a one "filled" with a cap inside. I guess I got confused enough and picked the wrong one.
Yeah, I think both colors work, and look very nice
I won't say they work perfectly - it's impossible with this many close colored civs - but they are distinguishable enough
First of all, I'd like to announce that because of ongoing developments, I laso put out my Széklers flag, see post 1. Now back to business.
I also think that red and white will do it. Yet meanwhile, a user on the hungarian forum doesn't like the theme of the icon It's fine for me, but I'd be curious about how his suggestion would turn out. He basically suggests to use the elements of the Kossuth coat of arms. In a round button, it would look a bit like the emblem of the hungarian soccer club, I'd say:
There would be no ball, no texts and no green circular border. The rest would consists of only two colours. Would it require you a lot of work?
That would look very bad compared to the other civ's icons
None of the civs have their emblems go to the border of the icon
Also, none have two emblems mixed in their icon
I'm absolutely against using something like this
I think most people want mods to match the official style as much as possible. Unfortunately that means only two colors and a single symbol. It might work if you could somehow merge the two symbols together instead of having them completely separate.
This. It looks bad, and it really breaks the vanilla art style. The best thing in heraldry (and Civ icon design) is simplicity, so the coat of arms can be recognized instantly. Stripes of Arpad and the patriarchal cross are two symbols of Hungary, not one. And the cross is bettern known in the world anyway.
Again, I am satisfied with this symbol, yet kusztax explained his opinion and I think there is truth in it: the double cross is also used by Slovaks, even as white cross on red background. Thus, alone it is not a clear identifier for Hungary. Things would be different if e would have three colours for the icon, so we could use the green hills. This ways, the stripes would make the icon unambiguous. And although I see your point about different symbols, they are melted in the hungarian coat of arms already making them together a new symbol. Well, I repeat myself: I could live with the double-cross; I am basically just forwarding what kusztax said.
We have elaborated on the matter of the icon on the hungarian forum and I decided to use the double-cross, so everything is fine with the icon. Would it be possible to provide me a dom and a diplo image with a filled crown or would that require to much work? I mean, I could leave with the current images as the gap is less visible than on the icon anyways. On the other side, if it would not require you much work...
I have updated the Austria bugfix, check post 1. Changes involve the civs icon which is now the double-headed eagle made by janboruta, and the colours, which have been changed to yellow and black. I didn't have and won't post any image for it in the download database as they are obviously not save there. If you care for images, check out the steam communitys entry for the mod: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=112552920&searchtext=Austria+bugfix
I plan to update the Hungary mod tomorrow using the art that janboruta provided so far. Further changes might be done with a later update.
I don't get you Cool
You are only making trouble for yourself
I just read through the steam comments, and the only thing you achieve is making your Magyar mod less popular.
Maybe even making Hungary less popular in the process, and that's the bigger problem :/
Firaxis made some bad decisions here, sure.
But they did it all the time... Native America civ, HRE, the fictional female leaders of Civ II, etc.
So no need for that pic. No need for making a separate Austria fix just to stand up against Firaxis
It's a mistake by the developers. Mods fix mistakes
Also, actually this Magyar mod is the main part of the fix
Just include the Austrian changes in the main Magyar mod
It's deeply connected to it anyway, and was always meant to be used together.
I would even say, that the Magyar mod is unplayable without the Austrian bugfix, as noone wants to play with two civs having the same UU
You are only confusing some users with having it separate
More than enough if you post all the information about the Austrian bugfix part of the mod. A couple lines in the OP here and in the Steam workshop
Why was it needed, what are the exact changes, etc.
Naturally, I absolutely agree with all your changes, and most players can easily accept them
This is what are mods about after all
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All other pictures have been sent to cool3a2. 
It's fine for me, but I'd be curious about how his suggestion would turn out. He basically suggests to use the elements of the Kossuth coat of arms. In a round button, it would look a bit like the emblem of the hungarian soccer club, I'd say:
