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[mhcarver]

@ stuck the total for 5CC should be 6 as I changed my vote in that thread,

 

[Black_Hole]

@ stuck the total for 5CC should be 6 as I changed my vote in that thread,

Ask a mod to change that, to make sure it gets counted...

But that adds 2 to for on 5CC, which even by Strider's method tilts the vote in favor of 5CC by 1 vote

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

We need to wait for those polls to close before we come to any conclusions. And yeah, it puts the 5CC up by one.

We need some sort of clearer way to tell.

SaaM

 

[Black_Hole]

We need to wait for those polls to close before we come to any conclusions. And yeah, it puts the 5CC up by one.

We need some sort of clearer way to tell.

SaaM

the polls never close, but we should consider them closed after 3-4 days

 

[Nobody]

ok i see what everyone wants Lets just keep repolling to 5cc wins! anyway whats this got to do with map setting, we can use the same map for 5 citys. I say Large/huge Contients 70% water warm wet and i dont get the ages. Difficulty monarchy.

 

[Black_Hole]

ok i see what everyone wants Lets just keep repolling to 5cc wins! anyway whats this got to do with map setting, we can use the same map for 5 citys. I say Large/huge Contients 70% water warm wet and i dont get the ages. Difficulty monarchy.

If 5CC stays on top, I would do a medium map on monarchy

 

[Double Stack]

Here's my choices:

• Land Mass %: 70% Water
• Land Size: Standard
• Land Type: Continent
• Our Civilization: Random (would like to see middle eastern civs)
• Difficulty Level: Sid (for fun)
• Temperature: Warm
• Age: 5 Billion
• Advanced Options: None
• Victory Options: None determined, just wing it (and don't talk about it til it happens)

 

[Strider]

@ stuck the total for 5CC should be 6 as I changed my vote in that thread,

Your vote was counted (and it was changed by a Mod). It's still 5, 5, 6. Goto the variant poll and check who voted for what options. If you notice the only "Against, but will be willing to consider." is Daveshack, but there are 2 people who have voted for that option.

The polls will never close, because I didn't set them a time. Look at the large majority of polls inside of the forum, and your see they got 19 votes. These polls have received 19 votes, and I doubt they will get anyway from the look of past polls.

You can complain all you want, but it's not going to change one way or the other. EVERYONE has voted already.

I'll be willing to risk losing 3 people, as I've already got 3 other people that will not play if it's a 5cc (and three newer players also). So don't think your sway me by threatening to leave.

 

[Bootstoots]

Strider, calling a result based on 19 hours of polling when your option was just barely ahead and not even having it face off with the other main choices in a single poll is hardly democratic. Granted, we should do this fairly quckly, but this is ridiculous. And this is coming from somebody who voted strongly for Epic game and would be happy to see it again.

Anyway, here would be my preferences if we do go with an Epic.

• Land Mass - 60% water
• Land Size - Standard
• Land Type - Continents
• Our Civilization - No preference (at this time)
• Difficulty Level - Demigod
• Temperature - Temperate
• Age - 5 billion
• Advanced Options - None
• Victory Options - Default

 

[Strider]

Strider, calling a result based on 19 hours of polling when your option was just barely ahead and not even having it face off with the other main choices in a single poll is hardly democratic. Granted, we should do this fairly quckly, but this is ridiculous. And this is coming from somebody who voted strongly for Epic game and would be happy to see it again.

As I said already, that 19 hours of polling received the same number of votes as the threads that have ran for 48 or more hours. Were on a timed schedule now, and I would like to get this discussion over with. What is wrong in basing the thread closing on the number of votes it has received, rather than how long it has ran (I thought it was a good choice, then we can't get decisions done faster, which was the entire purpose of it)? If I ran it for 2 more days, the results would not change. Everyone has already voted.

I'm not going to keep repolling this untill we find a result that everyone wants, because there won't be one.

 

[Black_Hole]

Your vote was counted (and it was changed by a Mod). It's still 5, 5, 6. Goto the variant poll and check who voted for what options. If you notice the only "Against, but will be willing to consider." is Daveshack, but there are 2 people who have voted for that option.

The polls will never close, because I didn't set them a time. Look at the large majority of polls inside of the forum, and your see they got 19 votes. These polls have received 19 votes, and I doubt they will get anyway from the look of past polls.

You can complain all you want, but it's not going to change one way or the other. EVERYONE has voted already.

I'll be willing to risk losing 3 people, as I've already got 3 other people that will not play if it's a 5cc (and three newer players also). So don't think your sway me by threatening to leave.

nope, if you count right now there are 6 vote and 6 people... mhcarvers vote hasn't been added in thus making it 7, so 5CC is now ahead by 3 net points

 

[greekguy]

I'm not going to keep repolling this untill we find a result that everyone wants, because there won't be one.

how about a compromise poll?

 

[Strider]

how about a compromise poll?

Goodluck, I doubt much will happen and I'm not going to bother with it. However, THANK YOU for actually doing something, instead of sitting around complaining because you didn't get what you wanted.

 

[Ginger_Ale]

Everyone has already voted.

Really? I bet there are some of the many citizens in the Citizen Registry that haven't.

greekguy: Thank you for the inititive, however, a 20CC is not a traditional variant and isn't much of a challenge. For the better part of this game, 20 cities was all we needed. We took out India and Netherlands with less than 20 cities easily.

 

[Black_Hole]

EVERYONE has voted already.

One person already voted after you 'closed' the poll, one person makes a big difference... There is a reason normal polls go 3 days...

Now current tally:

5CC:
7
5
1
2
4

14 + 5 - 2 - 8 = 9

Epic:
9
4
0
1
6

18 + 4 - 1 - 12 = 9

MTDG:
6
3
4
5
2

12 + 3 - 5 - 4 = 6

Epic and 5CC are tied

Perhaps a simple vote between epic, 5CC, and no preference?

 

[Chieftess]

Making decisions based on razor-thin margins is what the DemoGame is all about. We choose our leaders this way, and make "life or death" decisions for our in-game citizens, why not choose the option with the most points no matter how small the margin?

Then the minority PI's/CC's them when they don't get their way.



Anyway, since Civ4 is on its' way soon, we should have a game that's gonna least 4 months. (epic games can barely be completed in 4 months if we tried -- i.e., monarch level or lower).


Maybe we could do this....

Play the one victory condition we haven't won yet -- Histographic (I know, 540 turns, 54 turnchats, 8 chats a month, 8 months... BUT!!!)... We can play 20-25 turns per turnchat.

20 turns - 26 turnchats, 8 chats a month = 3.2 months.
25 turns - 21.6 turnchats, 8 chats a month, 2.6 months.

Granted, you extend it a few weeks for meeting civs, civs declaring war, and trade deals popping up. The problem will be the industrial era... But, by then, Civ4 will be on its' way, and we could give the DP some leeway in decisions...

Anyway...

Land Mass % 70%
Land Size Standard
Land Type Continents
Our Civilization Babylon (let's end this one out by playing our nemisis!!)
Difficulty Level Monarch
Temperature Warm
Climate Wet (you forgot this one)
Age 5 billion
Advanced Options (regicide etc.) None (AI doesn't handle regicide or elimination too well...)
Victory Options standard DG ones
Civ Version PTW (why not? )

 

[GenMarshall]

Here is my map settings that I wish to toss into:

• Land Mass 60% H2O
• Map Size - Small to Standard
• Land Type - Pangea
• Civilization - To be determaned by the poll
• Difficulty Level - Monarch to Emperor
• Temperature - Warm
• Age - 5 Bill
• Advanced Options - None
• Victory Options
• Rules (Excluding victory) - No spawning of conqured AI civs

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

I'd like to finally see a 'peligo game. We wanted one last game, why not try for this one?

Archipelego, 70% ocean.
Standard to large
Civ- TBA (babs... c'mon VANILLA babs)
Diff: we could emperor
temp age and climate: all the moderate
all vics allowed, no respawn or accel production.

 

[ravensfire]

There is a reason for doing the polls this way, as I suggested. The "strongly against" number are people who will probably leave if we play that kind of game. We risk losing 6 people if we play epic, 4 people if we play 5cc, and 2 people if we play Multi-team.

I'm not trying to say we will definitely lose these people, but there are several who have already declared their position.

However, 20 is probably too few to play multi-team.

You WILL lose me if there another Epic game.

Do it right - poll two options - 5CC or Epic game and force the decision one way or the other. Not two seperate polls like this.

-- Ravensfire

 

[Bootstoots]

I think we should try for 20k culture. To my knowledge, we haven't done that yet, and if we were Babylon, it would be quite easy (so we shouldn't be Babylon of course). I remember that was our idea in DG4, but we didn't exactly go anywhere with it. Of course, this will take some diligent planning early in the game to pull off, but we should be able to do it.

I would like the histograph idea except that it would make the turnchats way too long, and most likely we would have nearly won the game well before 2050, resulting in a boring milking session for the last couple of terms.

I guess that's not quite topical, but I figured I'd blare it out anyway.