the other day we were playing and my friend was pepintach, he thought the idea of an insane ruler was awesome. within the first 30 turns he swapped traits 3 times and then never swapped again. we were pretty sure its a bug, but does anyone know if its a straight chance to swap or a cumulative? and if it is a straight chance can we change it to cumulative to prevent long long runs of no change?
minor bug with pepintach
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Silverkiss
NekoChan
It isn´t a bug, you have a 1% chance every turn to change traits, and its not cumulative. So you can change 10 times in 10 turns or 0 time in 600 turns.
Absolutely! This Insane Effect IMO is one of the truly fun things in FFH. You just never know what and when you will get it. I have had three changes in three turns! Also, I have gone hundreds of turns (in a marathon game) without a change. Sometimes the change makes you happy - like Raiders when you want to gain more XP for your troops or you are at war with someone and pillaging, or you can take a real hit in your gold, for example, if 50% of the Civic costs are no longer covered.
It is just really fun with the unpredictability of the effect. I just wish the BAR trait could be added to the mix as it would really spice up the early game with raging barbs!
It is just really fun with the unpredictability of the effect. I just wish the BAR trait could be added to the mix as it would really spice up the early game with raging barbs!
Bad Player
Deity
Given how unlikely it is that both of you got 3 changes in 3 turns, it might be prudent for the devs to check the coding for this insane trait.
BeefontheBone
Windbag of the sea
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The OP estimated (I'm assuming) that he got 3 changes in 30 turns, and the 3 changes in 3 turns SHOULD have a probability of 1 in 1,000,000 (100 cubed) but is in fact more likely than that to happen thanks to the clumpiness of the PRNG - the alternative would be to have the RNG require a lot more processor time, slowing the game down considerably.Bad Player said:
Kael
Deity
daladinn said:
The insane chance can be modified with the editor in the global defines page.
I'm on my 6th game playing Perpentach now and I can confirm that only ONCE this happened...three changes in three turns. It surprised the hell out of me too and throws you when you start building something based on the trait bonus only to have it taken away the next turn.
I agree it can be discouraging to go hundreds of turns without the change especially if the traits you have are not the ones you want, but it works the other way too. I had the trait that gave me extra GP pts and I was really churning out the Great Persons.
Again, I say the insanity effect for me is one of the most fun things in the game...and, yes, I am insane.
I agree it can be discouraging to go hundreds of turns without the change especially if the traits you have are not the ones you want, but it works the other way too. I had the trait that gave me extra GP pts and I was really churning out the Great Persons.
Again, I say the insanity effect for me is one of the most fun things in the game...and, yes, I am insane.
On topic, it is interesting in my current game I have not had an insane effect switch to only two traits instead of the usual three. My last game it happened several times, and that is very frustrating.
I am still using vers. 'j' by the way.
I am still using vers. 'j' by the way.
I was wondering about this also. What if the formula was a cumulative thing so that on turn 1 there was a 1% chance, turn 2: 2% 3:3% etc. until it changes and then it drops back down to 1% (maybe with a cap of 50% or something). I could just imagine Perpentach's advisors sitting around thinking "Uh Oh, Boss hasn't flipped out anytime recently, we better watch out."
SchpailsMan
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Fixed in 0.16, IIRCSarisin said:
Silverkiss
NekoChan
How about it stays as it is now ? ^^
Really, changing 3 times in 3 turns and then not changing for 200 turns in my opinion shows how insane he is, better than being sure you will change.
Really, changing 3 times in 3 turns and then not changing for 200 turns in my opinion shows how insane he is, better than being sure you will change.
