Missile Cruiser

[Flak Fox]

Is anyone else a little floored by the fact that the Missile Cruiser looks more like an older (Soviet era) missile corvette or frigate than something that should be replacing a battleship (ie, AEGIS Cruiser)?

It's strange to me, especially since it's half the size of a destroyer...

 

[Michkov]

We aren't seeing anyone building battleships these days. Most modern vessels are DD or Frigate sized at best.

 

[AriochIV]

Yeah, it's a corvette, not a cruiser. It's based on the Soviet-era Nanuchka III, which was an anti-submarine corvette.

It's true that most modern missile ships are smaller, and are destroyers or even frigates, but few are as small as the Nanuchka. And they aren't called "cruisers."

 

[Lord Shadow]

We aren't seeing anyone building battleships these days. Most modern vessels are DD or Frigate sized at best.

The tonnage of the American Arleigh Burke-class destroyer, 9,800 tons, is close to that of an earlier cruiser (Ticonderoga-class, for instance). And then there's the Russian Kirov-class battlecruiser, three times larger at 28,000 tons.

If Firaxis wanted to take a break from representing the Missile Cruiser unit with an American vessel, they could've gone with that one instead of the ill-considered Nanuchka-class corvette (670 tons). It looks as underwhelming as it is inappropriate for a Battleship replacement.

 

[MistyRonin]

I agree, probably it was a choice a bit debatable. I'd rather have a bigger one (as most cruisers are).

The same goes for the ironcland, I'd have prefered something like the Kōtetsu (literally "ironclad" in Japanese)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_ironclad_Kōtetsu

 

[nukehumvee]

The missile corvette should have been a missile destroyer instead, it's the mainstay of a superpower's navy (only 3 countries operate any combat ships larger than destroyers). I'd choose an Arleigh-Burke over a Nanuchka any time.
Speaking of larger ships, what about the battleship in the Information Era? I think a missile cruiser can act as its replacement.

 

[Flak Fox]

Well giving how expensive it is to upgrade a Battleship to a Missile Cruiser (corvette), I can finally live out my dream of seeing Battleships continue passed the modern era

 

[rpgalon]

Well giving how expensive it is to upgrade a Battleship to a Missile Cruiser (corvette), I can finally live out my dream of seeing Battleships continue passed the modern era

yeah, Brazil's Minas Geares are 70/80 combat strenght compare it with the missile cruise 70/85... but Minas Geraes cost 430 prod while the missile cruiser cost 680... is 250 extra prod cost worthy 5 combat strenght when attacking? I think not, but you lose the ability to produce the battleship when you unlock the missile cruiser.

 

[Takfloyd]

All the ships are way too small in this game. I miss Civ 3's gigantic ships that were twice as big as the tile they were on. I also miss cruisers being a separate upgrade path from battleships.

 

[Jabulani]

Firaxis has always focused on ancient eras and has always snobbed modern ones.

 

[skyclad]

Yes, so way do they keep adding more and more "modern" eras? I mean industrial, modern, atomic, information its too much when they feel so empty.

 

[nukehumvee]

Yes, so way do they keep adding more and more "modern" eras? I mean industrial, modern, atomic, information its too much when they feel so empty.

Because due to the rapid progress of technology, one modern "era" might have even more advances compared to one historical era. Our ancestors used muskets for hundreds of years but it only took us a decade or so to switch from semi-automatic battle rifles to fully-automatic assault rifles.