Missing Major Religion

[caketastydelish]

You might be overstating things a bit, but yeah, it had alot of importance. Probably influenced Christianity and Islam quite a bit.

My personal preference, though, would be to take the folk pantheon religions like Roman, Germanic, Celtic, Slavic, Sumerian and all of those and elevate them (generically) to the status of a religion. These religions had a huge impact as well, both in their time and on later religions. I think it's something of a disservice to exclude them from the benefits of the other religions like temples etc.

More than anything else, religions should dissapear in cities after a while. Especially in RFC. Rather than screwing up the Byzanite Empire so later Turkey won't be Christian, just make Chrstanity in Turkish cities automatically dissapear! Because the truth is, the people WHERE Christian in the time of the Byzanite, but Muslim in Turkey. Same geographical area (ok, ok Byzanite was bigger) but the religion DID change! This would also help because the Persians would be Zoranstrian, rather than adopting Judaism, or Buddhism/Hinduism from the Indians. Then of coarse, when the Arabs invade them, they convert to Islam, and Zoastranism dissapears.

You should have the option, after conquering a city to "outlaw" that religion (that is, if you have theocracy) and it would make it dissapear. Doing so however, would create more unhappiness. Would do you guys think?

 

[Onagan]

It should be part of the game, banning religions in your Empire

 

[ramatheson]

It should be part of the game, banning religions in your Empire

Yeah, it should. If you ban another leader's religion, however, it should strain relationships even more.

 

[a4phantom]

Yeah, it should. If you ban another leader's religion, however, it should strain relationships even more.

And it shouldn't work. Rome repressed Christians, India repressed Muslims, England repressed Catholics and Protestants, assorted clowns repressed Jews, the Spanish repressed native American and Caribbean religions, etc. etc. etc.

 

[ramatheson]

Well it put a huge damper on the religion's ability to spread. Sure, there were still Christians in Ancient Rome, but there were few and they lived in the catacombs, dodging buckets of boiling oil and fire that was poured down into the tunnels to kill them.

 

[a4phantom]

Well it put a huge damper on the religion's ability to spread. Sure, there were still Christians in Ancient Rome, but there were few and they lived in the catacombs, dodging buckets of boiling oil and fire that was poured down into the tunnels to kill them.

And the blame for Nero's fire. And yet they did spread rather successfully.

 

[frekk]

And it shouldn't work. Rome repressed Christians, India repressed Muslims, England repressed Catholics and Protestants, assorted clowns repressed Jews, the Spanish repressed native American and Caribbean religions, etc. etc. etc.

And Christians repressed Roman and Greek and other religions, Islam repressed pre-Islamic Arabic religion, Judaism repressed the Canaanite religion, the Catholic church repressed the Cathars, the Reconquista repressed Islam in Spain and went on to settle the New World and repress Aztec and Mayan religions ... where are all these repressed religions now? Gone!

Alot of the time it doesn't work ... but alot of the time it does.

 

[a4phantom]

And Christians repressed Roman and Greek and other religions, Islam repressed pre-Islamic Arabic religion, Judaism repressed the Canaanite religion, the Catholic church repressed the Cathars, the Reconquista repressed Islam in Spain and went on to settle the New World and repress Aztec and Mayan religions ... where are all these repressed religions now? Gone!

Alot of the time it doesn't work ... but alot of the time it does.

Touche. 10char

 

[caketastydelish]

Yes, it has few followers. However, it was an imperative religion for tying East/West religions together. Scholars often cite Zoroastrianism as being one of the most influential religions in history, even more so than Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.

While it may have few followers nowadays, in the scope of civilization, it is very important, and is probably a great religion to be used in an "alternate history" type of game.

*sigh* You do realize, I never said that. Right?

 

[a4phantom]

I guess you could make the case that the Jewish version of Satan, unfallen and obedient to God as he remains, is more directly hostile to man than some depictions of the Christian Devil. In Paradise Lost Satan isn't out to deliberately hurt humans, only to recruit us to his side in his guerrilla war against Heaven. Of course being drafted onto the losing side of an eternal conflict is pretty bad, but his intention is not specifically to harm people but rather frustrate God's plans. And of course there's Pacino's awesome speech in Devil's Advocate about being a "fan of man" and "the last humanist." Satan in the Jewish Bible, on the other hand, is undeniably out to get us.

 

[webster]

What is your source that there is a Jewish devil?

 

[Ataxerxes]

What is your source that there is a Jewish devil?

You've got a big necro here. I'll answer what I think they meant, however.

It's in the book of Job. the first 2 chapters. In it, Satan (sometimes referred to as Ha-Satan) is like a prosecuting attorney in God's court. He makes the accusation against Job and God accepts the challenge. This Satan is not portrayed as an enemy of God, but as an accuser of mankind before God.

IIRC Ha-Satan was "the slanderer" in Persian courts. Sort of like a prosecuting attorney.

He's definitely out to get us, not God, in the Book of Job.